GMRwings1983

On the bright side, May has looked solid tonight. Him and Abdelkalder have been our best players tonight.

Why is Colorado better than us this season?

Good point. And here I was all summer thinking that Hal Gill is actually that damn good.

Did the Wings empty a bottle of vodka during that 1st intermission or something?

Flip sucks. Hudler would have scored there. Trade him, Kenny.

Well, if we win the next game, we're back to .500

We're obviously not the same team without Kirk Maltby.

Lebda sucks.

I don't want my team to play without class. Seriously, will May run into the audience and start attacking small children. I've had enough of this game already.

Howard couldn't wake up an insomniac.

It's O.K. guys Franzen will join this team in 6 months...... When they're on the golf course.

Will someone tell Pavel and Hank that the season has started.

This is going to be a different season unless this team fixes its s*** immediately. No more byes into the playoffs.

May just went with Vanek.

This team is standing around right now.

Worst PK in the league strikes again. Doesn't take us long does it?

80's or not, it was stil an impressive feat, equalled only by two other players who played with a lot more talent around them. Yzerman scored less points in later years because the Wings added more talent, thus it wasn't all on him to provide the scoring. The era also had something to do with it, but it doesn't diminish it.

Tomas Kopecky's entire career here was a Holland gaffe. Better players were in the minors, while he was taking up their roster spots.

Overrated? How many other players scored 155 points on a team full of no name players? Nobody that I can think of did.

Honorable mention should go to Jiri Hudler's 2009 season. He amassed 57 points, despite the fact that he was on the ice for a total of 10 minutes the entire season (or so his LGW homers say). That's a feat that has never been equalled in NHL history.

Definitely Yzerman's 1989 season. He played on a team full of nobody's and goons yet somehow amassed 155 points! I still don't know how he did it. Actually, who were his linemates that year? Lemieux and Gretzky played with Hall of Fame players, so that's partly why they scored so many points. Yzerman played with no one yet scored over 150. With all the leadership stories and Stanley Cups, it's easy to forget what a force he was offensively before he had to sacrifice his numbers somewhat.

Basically an argument could be made for those 4 players being ranked in any way imaginable. Although, I still think Gretzky is number 1 no matter what. As far as individual awards, Lemieux is hurt by the injuries and the fact that he played in the same era as Gretzky, who practically owned the Art Ross trophy like no one else has. Otherwise, he'd have more individual awards. Anyway, this thread is about number retirement, and like I said, Lemieux and Gretzky wore more unconventional numbers to begin with, that's why those numbers are now associated with them.

Doesn't Lemieux have the highest PPG ever? Besides, the guy was injured a lot and had cancer, yet when he came back he still put up numbers like nothing had happened to him. When he came back in 2001 after 4 years off, it was like he never left to begin with. He was also the most physically gifted player ever in my opinion and an offensive scoring machine. He was also one of the smartest players ever. I'd put him ahead of Howe. Probably not Orr. Don't know what you meant by Howe having twice as many good to great years. Lemieux didn't play nearly as long, so that's a no-brainer that Howe would have more good seasons. Lemieux never had an off year in his career from what I can remember. He was always dominant.

When did I say he was an enforcer? I'm not comparing the guy to Lilja, I'm just saying that I always thought he was better than Lebda and Meech. Very strange post, Crymson.

The Wings have been known for having good intuition with players, but they just blew it there. What the hell did Holland and company ever see in Meech and Lebda that made them better than Quincey? Yeah, Quincey is playing better now than he ever did in Detroit, but when he was here, I still thought he was better than both of those guys. Apparently, the Wings felt differently.