GMRwings1983

Hey, it worked for the Chiefs in Slapshot. And we woudn't lose every game if we had 1 or 2 extra tough guys instead of guys like Ellis, Hudler, Kopecky, Drake, Meech, etc. That's just some paranoid fear that some of you have.

I never said Franzen should have been dealt last year, I just wouldn't mind seeing him and a few others dealt now, because I don't see the Wings winning the Cup with this lineup. He's got to look to his big Swedish teammate to learn how to do that, Lou. All he's got to do is ask, and PAIN TRAIN will deliver his services free of charge.

Yeah, a proven 3rd liner. You make it sound like he's one of the 2 or 3 most important pieces to the team

Franzen achieves a purpose that plenty of guys on the team have. He's a penalty killer. We need someone who can score on our top 2 lines, and if it means trading away Franzen, then I won't lose any sleep over it. And I think it's fair to say that Mathias as a prospect was expected to be better than where Franzen was last year or this year as a player. Yeah, he's unproven, but in retrospect it was still a bad move by Holland, and you guys are unwilling to admit that he screwed that one up. Like I said earlier, Holland is a good GM, but he isn't a GOD like you guys are making him sound defending his every move.

How was Mathias more expendable than Franzen?

Isn't that what pretty much wound up happening now that Bertuzzi is gone, and we've lost Matthias also?

Not if that big gritty forward happens to be a gimp, which is what Bertuzzi was when we got him.

Isn't hindsight 20/20 a fair way to judge GM's? I think it is. The Wings have been fortunate to scout well in recent years, but as for pulling off trades, they haven't been that successful, and I don't have any problem saying that the Bertuzzi deal was a mistake.

I could have mentioned more names, I drink scotch not bud lights, and also Hasek wasn't a deadline acquisition. As for the arguments, Holland is a good GM, but don't forget that what I was saying is that Franzen is expendable. What makes you think that Holland won't realize the same thing? He'll trade him away soon enough, unless Franzen starts doing something out there befitting for a top forward, which he isn't, or a physical force, which he sure as hell isn't.

Cory Cross, Uwe Krupp, do I need to mention any more names?

We're just afraid of playing another Western Canadian team to have to listen to those homer CBC announcers. I don't think I can go through with them again this year.

Because he's a waste of size who's nothing more than a 3rd or 4th liner that can easily be replaced.

That f***head O'Halloran should be fired so that he doesn't officiate in the playoffs. I don't want to see him cost us a Cup.

Wow! I thought Montreal was in need of some toughness before, but it's just getting ridiculous now thinking how soft they are as a team. Stealing a woman't purse?

Kind of like me constantly preaching about McGrattan.

Has there been one confirmed rumor of Gratton going to Detroit, or is it just LGW banter?

Exactly, but if the league had the brains to move this team East, we wouldn't have this problem.

So Dallas Drake isn't a dinosaur? I'd love to have Thornton here. He's better than some of the guys we have now.

I think what he meant was that we need to solidify our goalie situation, not necessarily bring in someone new. It just sounded stupid the way he said it.

Great ideas, but I don't think Lacouture is playing in the league anymore.

Gary Bettman should be fired for this. This has to be the last straw.

Cummins wasn't any kind of heavyweight, and was pretty much a punching bag throughout his career.

Officials decide games in football and basketball more often than in hockey. I'm just glad today wasn't a playoff game, although it's not like that hasn't happened before in the playoffs to us.

We need to trade that Lidstrom guy. I hear the Leafs are looking to move Kubina.

I guess you don't count Neil as a heavyweight when he fought Lilja this year. Didn't Lilja land on top of him as I recall?