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That's what everyone likes to say but I can't recall off the top of my head when anything remotely like that has ever happened.

For Boogard. Straight up.

Draper was a star in his own right. Selke trophy, fixture on the PK for 10+ years on a team that's a perennial contender. Them is some pretty mighty fine achievements there that you hope guys like Helm can aspire for.

Well why not? Don't we reference pretty much everything on here?

Cut Babcock some slack. He did spend some time coaching Mr. Special Treatment in Pissburgh.

More like loser as how I am a Wings fan and the Wings will not have one of their best dmen for what is mostly likely 9-10 weeks seeing as how the Wings tend to miss a little more time than initially estimated.

Helm was really good in the last game against the Oilers. I'm not so sure I completely buy the comparison to Kris Draper however. Maybe I'm just weird but when I hear comparisons I think of a player's main defining trait. To me, Kris Draper's defining trait in his prime was that he was simply annoying. For one, the fact that a guy that small worked harder than them really irritated opponents. They often felt like, "How the f*** is this little midget chihuahua beating me at everything?" Two, he wasn't afraid to chirp away and run his mouth at anyone. His own teammates today will still tell you playfully that he just doesn't shut up no matter what he's doing. Lastly, he was just a fiercely competitive ball of energy all over the ice with speed. So to me, Draper's defining trait in his prime was his many layers of being annoying. When I think of Helm I see someone who is very different, which of course, isn't a bad thing. He is who he is. He's got blazing speed and is good defensively and on the PK. But right now I don't feel the same annoyance that I did with Draper. The kind of feeling of, "Thank goodness he's a Red Wing because if he wasn't I'd probably send two guys to knock him on his ass all game."

Not surprising. Stupid groins. Maybe it's Filppula's fault for not stretching enough. You see Datsyuk on the bench he stretches after damn near every shift. I know he's injured too but still... Shutup.

Last night's game was a softie-fest. Kipper had what, at least 3 softies?

If history has taught us anything, it's to be as cynical as possible. Right now Sheahan still exhibits streaky behavior.

Not the time to lose one's HEAD... That's not the way to get aHEAD in life... It's a shame he wasn't more HEADstrong... He'll never be the HEAD of a major corporation... The only stable HEAD he has comes from Bettman's sloppy... Oh wait...

Yeah apparently Franzen was asking for it.

Oh guys... Come on, not the enforcer debate. Take it to the tough guy thread.

My guess is 6-8 weeks. Or actually, my hope is 6-8 weeks considering some cases where players would be out for the season.

Where would Kostopulous have gone then?

I know Drapes has been better at wing these past few years but in the case of these injuries why can't they try him out as the fourth line center again? Mule-Z-Homer Bert-Helm-Huds Tatar-Abs-Eaves Miller-Drapes-Mursak

Z and Nick have points streaks on the line. They have yet to register in this game.

Another damn goal against in the last minute...

Niiiiiice.

Ok that's two games in a row someone blurted out the S word. What's going on here?

Maybe it was both hits.

Too many guys that should have the freedom to play with the puck while no Holmstrom on there to do the dirty work.

I would have had to watch the Winter Classic in the first place to really notice.

Can't wait to see the medically trained people here at LGW explain/debate this one.