titanium2

You should be tired of hearing it. I know I would if I knew my team was a bunch of lucky frauds with a lottery cup. Are we bitter? Of course. Doesn't mean we're not right.

I'm more of a fan of how long they've been in the NHL.

That along with fatten themselves with sandwiches that have fries on top and call it "unique."

Because Hossa isn't here to score 40 goals and the Wings have to make up for the loss of Samuelsson's great shot.

You want to Eva or should I just dig up something from the archives?

Sure but better than both of the Sedins? I guess it's not that easy for me to say that.

I'm actually surprised they ranked Backstrom so high. Also, check out the Russian top 10. They ranked Datsyuk above Malkin. I can't believe it.

A joke is more like "Dave Tallon got fired? Hawks owners must have researched Kopecky (55fan, major props)" or "When Crosby and Malkin play on the same line the plan is simple. Sometimes Crosby gives and Malkin receives but for the most part Malkin gives it to Crosby and he receives until he stops whining and falls into a coma (I forget, probably some troll)."

That's a very dangerous comparison there buddy. Especially on a Wings forum. Some people here are upset that even Zetterberg gets the Stevie Y comparison.

In terms of his development, it seems as if he's doing just ok, which is fine. The Wings don't really need him for a while. So at this point, my impression is that... It could be worse. The names Grigorenko and Ryno come to mind. Where did you hear that he has excellent skating? I've never ever heard that about him. It's always "average" or worse.

http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/07/th...restricted.html The KHL's stance on 'restricted free agents,' IIHF's inability to police them bode poorly for Jiri Hudler's return to Red Wings (George's take: The Red Wings fully believe that the NHL's protestations of Jiri Hudler's decision to sign with Dynamo Moscow of the KHL will not force Hudler to return to North America after his salary arbitration hearing (and Fox Sports' Spector duly noted that arbitration hearings almost always result in a severing of a player's relationship with his employer down the line). Yahoo Sports' Dmitry Chesnokov argues that it is in fact the KHL which has a much more "restrictive" policy about young free agents whose rights remain with their employers, and he wonders whether the IIHF can possibly police the issue) July 23, Yahoo Sports: Things are done different in the KHL regarding RFAs. An RFA must sign a qualifying offer from his team. No arbitration. A player remains an RFA in Russia until he is 28. There is a "way out": Paying a third of the contract "price" to his KHL team. But who wants to do that? KHL is trying to market itself as an international league. But the norms of international law must be followed by the KHL. Employment contracts must always have the beginning and the end. Interminable employment contract should not exist the way they do in the KHL. Both sides should be able to end the contract. A player should not be forced to sign a qualifying offer and remain with his team until he is 28. He should be able to walk away and play in another league (not another team) if he wishes. In cases of [restrcited free agents Evgeni] Dadonov, [Denis] Parshin and [sergei] Shirokov their Russian teams want to bind them to a contract they don't want. If it were the NHL, the player would be able to opt out of the qualifying offers, not file for arbitration and leave for another league. The argument of compensation for nurturing young players does not hold water because the regulation applies to all RFA's in the KHL. Two young very prospective Swedish kids -- Linus Omark (drafted by Edmonton in 2007, 97th overall) and Johan Harju (drafted by Lightning in 2007, 167th overall) -- signed with Dynamo Moscow earlier this year. This means that they too won't be able to play in the NHL until they are 28 (or if they pay a "compensation" to their KHL club). International league following international law? Not so much. (Why does the fate of restricted Russian free agents matter?) The stream of young talent coming from Europe may be reduced by the KHL regulations regarding contractual obligations of restricted free agents if the NHL agrees with it. In cases of Dadonov, it is obvious that they do not. Appealing to the IIHF is not going to do any good. Let's not forget that this organization is run part-time by a dentist who is probably better served doing root canals than getting to the root of the disagreement between the two most powerful forces in world hockey. The IIHF reminds me of the League of Nations: It's there but has no real power. It depends too much on the money from sponsors, including Russian oil-dollars, to hold their tournaments in Europe. If the NHL and the KHL are to agree on the transfer agreement, it has to be between them. (Fasel's inability to do much of anything of substance is why the KHL, despite its insistence to the contrary, won't force Hudler to return to the NHL. The KHL essentially does what it wants, "gentleman's agreement" to not sign each other's unrestricted free agents included.)

Or laugh when they ask what icing is; or when they claim that the home team supplies the away team's equipment and thus tampers with it.

Well, judging by the Pens fans that come on this board, good luck teaching a bunch of morons sentenced to work in steel factories. Beef up your resume until you can move to a more pleasant city or at least anywhere that has more pleasant people.

Power forward fo sho.

Doesn't anyone remember that stretch where Leino did play on the 2nd line? 21-51-81. Yes, I know Hossa is gone, but I'm guessing that Leino got more minutes on the 2nd line than Hudler did last year's regular season. It's not that unfathomable.

Haha - Well hello there. We've missed you. It's been rather boring around here and there you are to the rescue!!!

Ehh, if I were you I would keep reminding them of how lucky they got due to the Wings ridiculous list of injuries.

It doesn't really make sense from his perspective. Supposedly he doesn't want to win and is just looking for some bank. Can't he get a much better deal from the KHL? Closer to home, tax free money, Euro style hockey. What exactly is keeping him in Atlanta? The World of Coca-Cola museum?

Oh man... I can see the responses now. "Detroit Red Wings fans are going to insult Pittsburgh's unemployment rate?"

I'd still like Grier. But letting the players compete for the spots is fine too. No biggie.

Yeah I thought Cheli wanted to break Gordie's record?

Almost everyone has played significant minutes at center at some point in their careers. Pav Z Mule Fil Pug (Leino) Helm Draper if you were to add some GR Abby McGrath Oulahen EDIT: Actually, McGrath apparently started to play better when he got switched to a wing position. And Oulahen is versatile enough to play all three forward positions. So if they do make the roster, then they shouldn't have much problem playing on the wing.

How about a line of McGrath-Helm-Holmstrom? Along with a fourth line of Oulahen-Draper-Maltby? Not all that much fanfare or excitement, but they could do worse.

Oh what could happen? A torn ACL or broken face?