titanium2

I'd like to believe you but I won't until you can show me something substantiating. But I'd really, really like to believe you.

He's just trying to make us feel bad for a supposed lack of success by the Red Wings. Why he's trying to do that I don't know. It's nothing new. When an average team initiates a youth movement or movement in general, they're lucky to make the playoffs. A movement by the Wings involves more or less 50 win seasons. A better way to describe this is perhaps a comparison to Nick Lidstrom. You hear Zetterberg say all the time, "His lowest level is really high," as in, even on his worst day, he's still better than most. The Wings organization has shown that for the past 15 years that their lowest level is still higher than most. The organization has achieved a type of success that's rare in sports in which a team has a legitimate shot to win a championship every single year. The only other organization in the NHL for comparison is New Jersey. Pittsburgh is one of the few that have the potential for that kind of success. We shall see.

I'm wondering if they have some clever trick up their sleeves.

Stop ruining the fun for those who need to complain in order to be happy!

So let's say he got his 3-4mil. How much would he have after taxes?

I wonder if Ritola has a chance now. "Detroit Red Wings goal, number 42, Mattias... REEEEEEE-TOH-LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

The usual fan on here might succumb to insults to this statement. Please explain that. My head tells me that Toews is a really good defensive player; Zetterberg is a great defensive player. Zetterberg had to really bust his ass and depending on whom you ask on here, some will say he lost the battle against Getzlaf/Pronger. Speaking of that horrible human being called Pronger, I hate to say it but I feel like he would've eaten Kane alive. So I really need to hear your reasons behind that statement.

Some of those years are after they've won Stanley Cups. Some are simply the maturity process that allowed Yzerman/Fedorov or Datsyuk/Zetterberg with Lidstrom along the ride for both eras to get playoff experience. Also, as implied in the sentence before, some of those years were simply transition years into new eras. On an average team that might look like just missing the playoffs. I wouldn't call it knocking themselves out but just a gradual growth process.

I thought Holland would've gotten compensation if Hossa signed with LA and then he didn't.

You know it's been a while seen I've seen a Pens fan on here.

Give Hudler Filppula's ice time and the opposition has more room to skate around because Huds can't keep up and has always been inconsistent in his defensive play. His effort is there, he just doesn't have the tools.

Sounds like he wanted a top-6 role on the Wings. Sorry Huddles.

One year? Does that have anything to do with Lidstrom contract coming off the books?

Slim shady.

How could a hockey player be a... Awww... I see what you did there.

of course. wings cut ties with mac.

I've lived in Cleveland... That pretty much sums up my counter post.

I'm not bidding until there are 10 minutes left. Is that really how tough it is to be a Cubs fan? So much investment for a one year window.

So let's say they're just making all these signings to trade them later on. Of course, other teams will be aware of their situation and will use it to their advantage within trade disparities. I guess something is better than nothing. If they didn't sign these guys, and they become UFAs, they could lose them for nothing right?

Is that Holy s*** that's a bargain or Holy s*** Tallon is in some deep trouble?

Well hopefully everything works out bureaucratically otherwise... Well, it's hard to make the playoffs when you have to forfeit every regular season game in which the team is over the cap.

So... What would he do when he's looking at a guy's numbers as that guy protects the puck along the boards?

Take it easy. I never said or meant to imply any of that and you know it. It was a response. The user wondered how the defense got worse even with Hossa as many claim is a good defensive player. He used past tense when he said "I thought Hossa was a pretty damn good defensive player" and I just wanted to be sure. It's not like I said 'Hudler should never center the second line.'

Do you still think that now?

Did Mcrimmon design for the dmen to be more offensive minded instead of defensive minded?