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I completely agree with you - pay per game. I don't know how many games I'll be able to watch - 30? 15? 5? None? I don't know! It's in middle of nights (1.30-3.30 or later) for Christ's sake, the worst time imaginable. No way I'm paying $150/season If I don't even know I'll use the servis (and $15/day is a joke) and possibility of a blacked out game doesn't help either. If they offered me a 15/30/50 games package (of my choice) for a resonable price I'd pay.

It's the other way around, Osgood has started drinking during those 10 days. After he wins the SC he can party for months without being suspect. That's his new motivation.

Jagr's used one hand on the stick his whole career and noone complained.

that's actually pretty common in czech league.

on their website. http://www.hc-slavia.cz/ EDIT: I found it in the upper left side of their jersey.

That's what happens when you charge $3-$20 for a play-off final round game.

Yeah, selfcast = horrible service. It makes me want to kill myself every time I use it.

That's not important because they'd never trade him for them anyway.

Hemsky <----> Filpulla + Franzen (Hudler) + picks? 4,1M <----> 3,942M (4,015M) + picks? (Samuelsson could join them as well) I just like Hemsky.

Conklin .915 (680 SA, 58 GA) Osgood .880 (693 SA, 83 GA) The same defense. And it includes Conklin's 9 goals in 2 games. Osgood averages 26,6 shots a game, that means 10 SO in a row to match Conklin's SV%. For all you "stats doesn't say anything" people: Why are all the goalies that actually do something in the net on the top and all the goalies that are considered to suck on the bottom? Yet somehow Osgood is a different case than the rest of the NHL and his stats don't prove anything. Toskala, Hedberg, Legace, Turco, LaBarbera, Budaj, Sabourin, Theodore, Ellis, MacDonald, Ersberg, Giguere, Halak, Lehtonen are all accompanying Osgood at the 30th and worse place. Why don't I see there any actually good goalie when the SV% stat is totally inacurate? "Quality chances" is the usual excuse for incompetence. Detroit defense must be at the level of the hungarian national team defense to accomplish .880 on a "superstar" goalie. Sure, no other team in the league let so many quality chances be held in front of their goalie... You can lie to yourself as much as you want, but it's just YOU who is delusional about Osgood. I'm not saying he can't be the old good Osgood in play-offs, but right now he is just pathetic and I don't believe in miracles.

Agree, that's probably why Osgood's numbers suck even more than Hasek's did.

Osgood = last year's Hasek. The difference is that Hasek haters are now Osgood apologizers.

He builds a snowman and heads home. However he sometimes overuse it . Do you remember Boston?

Ozzy needs 5 SO in a row to match his SO, 10 SO to match his GAA and 12 to match his SV%. The difference is huge.

Evidently, no one is taking this thread seriously, why should I?

Why? Let inflation do its job. year 1 - 5M .......... 5% infl ..... 5,0% cumulative infl...... 4,76M real value year 2 - 5M .......... 4% .......... 9,2% ........................... 4,58M year 3 - 5M .......... 4% .......... 13,6% ......................... 4,40M year 4 - 5M .......... 3% .......... 17,0% ......................... 4,27M year 5 - 6M .......... 3% .......... 20,5% ......................... 4,98M year 6 - 6M .......... 2% .......... 22,9% ......................... 4,88M year 7 - 6M .......... 3% .......... 26,6% ......................... 4,74M year 8 - 7M .......... 4% .......... 31,7% ......................... 5,32M year 9 - 10M ........ 3% .......... 35,7% ......................... 7,37M year 10 - 20M ...... 3% .......... 39,8% ......................... 14,30M -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10 years / 59,6M

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I'm here tooooooooooooooooo.

Yzerfan1999: uncharacteristic? I remember him playing with broken bones... and he is one of the few players who stay on their feet and don't complain no matter how many players hook them.

Hasek .926 today .936 overall I consider it good enough so far.

------------------------------------------------------ If we take usual 60 minute game (without OT & excesses - early pull) we get this: ------------------------------------------------------ Osgood averaged 24.5 SA in 35 games and Hasek averaged 21.5 SA in 34 games. games with 35+ SA - Osgood 2 (.915 SV%) - Hasek 0 (.000 SV%) games with 30+ SA - Osgood 5 (.935 SV%) - Hasek 1 (.906 SV%) games with 25+ SA - Osgood 18 (.922 SV%) - Hasek 9 (.902 SV%) games with 20+ SA - Osgood 29 (.925 SV%) - Hasek 21 (.904 SV%) games with less than 20 SA - Osgood 6 (.916 SV%) - Hasek 13 (.916 SV%) Osgood conceded 65 goals (48 EV, 16 PP, 1 SH) Hasek conceded 68 goals (35 EV, 28 PP, 5 SH - 4 against Chicago, 3 in one game) ------------------------------------------------------ If we take all games (with OT) we get this: ------------------------------------------------------ Osgood conceded 76 goals (55 EV, 20 PP. 1 SH) Hasek conceded 78 goals (43 EV, 30 PP. 5 SH) SITUATION - G - SA - TOI -> SV% -> GAA60 -> GAA2 (GAA60 = GAA in 60 minutes; GAA2 = GAA in 2 minutes) Osgood 5v4 - 16 - 132 - 209:56 -> .879 -> 4.29 -> 0.14 Osgood 5v3 - 4 - 12 - 9:42 -> .667 -> 24.74 -> 0.82 Osgood 4v3 - 0 - 1 - 2:00 -> 1.000 -> 0.00 -> 0.00 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Osgood PP - 20 - 145 - 221:38 -> .862 -> 5.41 -> 0.18 Osgood EV&SH - 56 - 770 - 2012:00 -> .927 -> 1.67 -> N/A Osgood TOTAL - 76 - 915 - 2234:00 -> .917 -> 2.04 -> N/A SITUATION - G - SA - TOI -> SV% -> GAA60 -> GAA2 (GAA60 = GAA in 60 minutes; GAA2 = GAA in 2 minutes) Hasek 5v4 - 27 - 157 - 255:43 -> .828 -> 6.34 -> 0.21 Hasek 5v3 - 3 - 8 - 3:50 -> .625 -> 46.96 -> 1.57 Hasek 4v3 - 0 - 1 - 0:16 -> 1.000 -> 0.00 -> 0.00 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hasek PP - 30 - 166 - 259:49 -> .819 -> 6.93 -> 0.23 Hasek EV&SH - 48 - 611 - 1899:00 -> .921 -> 1.52 -> N/A Hasek TOTAL - 78 - 777 - 2159:00 -> .900 -> 2.17 -> N/A Hasek spends 12,04% of his TOI killing penalties, Osgood 9,91%. Hasek faces 21,36% of his SA during PK, Osgood 15,85%. ------------------------------------------------------ CONCLUSION: ------------------------------------------------------ Hasek faces considerably less shots than Osgood. When they face less than 20 shots a game they're even, When they face more than 20 shots a game Hasek deteriorates, Osgood gets better. On the other hand Hasek spends more time killing penalties and picking pucks out of his goal during PK than Osgood. Excluding PP goals from their TOTAL regular season numbers we get the main reason for Hasek's bad statistics - Penalty Killing. It seems like when Dom is in the crease our team defends a lot more (= fouls a lot more) and Dom can't kill penalties any more. His even strength numbers look much better. What do you think?

imisssergei: I'm ill so I have nothing better to do. ;-)

Yeah, but you must have in mind that he can't get prepared for hockey games from clinical bed. He spends whole year recovering from something.

Osgood GAA 2.09 SV% .917 Hasek leads GAA (2.07)

December statistics ------------------------------------------------ CHRIS OSGOOD ------------------------------------------------ GAA: 1.62 (1.75) SV%: 94.1% (93.0%) W-L-OTL: 5 - 1 - 0 (17 - 2 - 1) SO: 1 (2) ------------------------------------------------ DOMINIK HAÃ…Â EK ------------------------------------------------ GAA: 1.64 (2.32) SV%: 92.2% (89.1%) W-L-OTL: 7 - 1 - 1 (12 - 6 - 2) SO: 1 (1) I think It's wonderful duo. Osgood is super HOT, Hasek is "just" great.