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After tonights loss definitely Howard. That 3rd goal was SO deflating. Anyone watch the game on TSN, and see the way Ericcsson, Lidstrom, and Kronwall reacted to him when he came over for a squirt? Pretty awkward. The 1st goal was pretty weak too, he had plenty of time to push off and slide over, but him being a rookie shows in little misteps (or extra steps) he takes that results in him lifting his pads off the ice. Don't get me wrong, without his stability down the stretch of the RS we wouldn't have even made the playoffs perhaps, so I'm not tottally throwing him under the bus and saying: "put ozzy in". But defintely, this one sits on Howards shoulders, a goal like that shouldn't ever go in on an NHL goalie, I'd even feel ridiculous giving one up like that in the mens league I play in. Who knows? Maybe philly will sign Turco, and we will snage Emery for cheap! But it's like it's been said, 4 goals a game is a little much, and right now Howard isn't stealing or really being solid enough for us to win games.

I have to agree, this season can be chalked up to injuries and under achieving. Datsyuk and Z have been subpar for the "2 best all-around forwards" in the league. It's not all their fault, but they are a part of the team and that makes them accountable. Especially given their salary. Iginla is basically having a new arse hole torn after this slide in Calgary. As much as I love Iggy, he is the captain and he is supposed to be their number one player. So yes, it is okay to hold stars accountable. Something I'm not sure Babcock or Holland have stressed enough.

Just curious as a few people have mentioned this, I'm purely curious as to what everyone feels.

not surprised by this... this s*** happens inmy beer league all the time... facebook here i come

Just curious if anyone has heard what Lidstrom is expected to sign for, I was just going over our cap space at nhlnumbers.com and it'll be pivotal whether or not the the Wings will look to bolster their offence or goaltending following this season. Thanks, and sorry in advance if this has already been discussed!

YES. HELL YES. PLEASE.

not gonna lie i haven't read any other posts, but i laughed my arse off when i heard what he said. he should probably be on the team, as much as I wasn't crazy about him I wish we had him as a depth player right now.

Agreed sir.

I agree. We're really, really, starting to feel the effects of Franzen being gone. In times like this, it's no wonder our most prolific scorer is a big bodied, soft handed guy like Bertuzzi. Franzen is pretty much a much much more effective type of Bertuzzi. Datsyuk does need to step it up though, he doesn't seem to have that same threatening mentality he used to. He's making more and more errant passes, and for the type of money he's making, he needs to be a leader and put the puck in the net. Same goes for Lidstrom and Rafalski, one from the point on a PP would be great now and then, they've certainly dried up too. Let's hope things turn up.

Okay, I've heard and injury DOESN'T clear up cap space, and that an injury DOES clear up cap space. What's the final verdict, my friends who follow hockey also insisted it did. If so, how much wiggle room does Holland have to play with? I'd like to see him make a move, even though he claims he's not going to. It would suck to scrape through this year and miss the playoffs for the first time in 20 years.

maybe he said something about the quality of an ikea product he recently bought, and the goaltender became extremely offended?

Steve Yzerman

crosbys wrist shot blows... that's all i have to say

I have Kessel right now in my hockey pool, my friend has offered me Elias. They're both returning from the IR soon, and I'm leaning towards accepting this trade, here's why: 1. Kessel will have virtually no one to play with as linemates in toronto. 2. Elias will probably be playing with Parise and Langenbrunner in NJ. 3. Kessels stats may have been inflated due to playing with Savard. 4. Elias, despite Kessels big year in 08-09, still had more fan points in my pool than Kessel did. Any thoughts?

I'm a nail and you just hit me on the head.

This is getting ridiculous. How he goes from so good in the playoffs to so lackluster in the regular season is beyong me. I sure hope Osgood doesn't need another "mental break"...Oh wait, he'll get one come olympic time i guess...Gotta have those mental breaks its tough playing behind one of the best teams in the league!

Agreed. Osgood let's in a TERRIBLE second goal, I mean, any goal from the outside hash marks that sneaks under a goalies arm is NOT NHL caliber. Then he can't provide a single stop anyways. This team looked so deflated after that 2nd goal it was painful. OMG this is gonna be a long season with ozzie AGAIN. Hopefully the entire team can pick up his slack so he can turn it up for playoffs. Osgood is turning into the Randy Moss show, "I'll play when I wanna."

I remember a certain season in 2007-2008 when they went winless in 12 and hey, they won the stanley cup that year!

Let's not forget where Pittsburgh was half way through last season...out of a playoff spot. I think it's exactly whats been said above, the wind has been taken outta their sails- and their lungs- thinking about how much work lies ahead of them to get where they were last year, in the Stanley Cup finals just to come up short. They'll be alright, but not necessarily division champs or a top 3 team in the conference all year, but they'll turn it on to get things done when their backs are up against a wall. Just shrug, and laugh it off...at least you aren't an avs fan who's endured 5 years of this in a row!

toskala is the s***s...how can you not like a guy nicknamed "MONSTER" anyways...?!

part of the reason this trade was brought up and is obviously just to generate discussion is because of their close salaries. biron or roloson (preferably biron) would be okay. (i dont think the wings need to take on another soon to be retired player.)

Not to mention backstrom and kipper are finnish...

goaltending. howard needed to make those two saves in that 13 second span, or maybe even one and the entire team wouldn't have had the wind taken outta their sails. the team didnt play great as a unit by any means, but howard and osgood need to prove they can carry the load with abig save here and there

I hope Kenny does make some kind of goaltender related move, because after these first two games I'm not too optimistic about our goaltending situation. I love ozzie (and he has shut me up over the past) but we need a goalie who can make a big save here or there and steal the odd game cause we're not going to win barn burners as much this season. I just don't have any faith in Howard, I never really have, and Osgood is going to play like ~60 games max, meaning we really need someone reliable for 20-25 games whatever it may be. I'll put Giguere on my xmas list, J/K!

white also reflects light more abundantly and thus usually appears larger which is why a lot of goalie's are going with all white schemes more and more...yeah, i learned something in college, so there