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If he wanted it more than zetterberg or anyone else on detroit he would have learned how to deal with a shadow like zetterberg. But he hasn't. One example of how he is not the best.

all veteran hockey fans hate the refs. I dont think we should be picking on a ranger fan for hating them too especially when we also complain about them (including myself boy did I blow up after that game last night)

had my pic taken with that 3 times in my life, 1993, 2002 and 2008. So glad you got to do that for your first time. It never gets old and its an amazing feeling everytime you experience it. I think the cup has this sort of spellbinding aura....practically glows with its own silver light. So amazingly beautiful. I love Stanley!

I was going to write this i saw this thread and thought, Say huh? swedish five? what swedish five? yeah the team has like 7 or 8 swedes but there was never a 'swedish whole line' of two D's, two wings and a center who were all on the same line and were out on the ice all playing together same shift all at the same time like there was with the russians. so can't really compare a two since technically there was not a 'swedish line'

Nothing. I explained to him that people will complain about him because fans expect more (and at least try to be on better behavior crosby won't be perfect all the time, and we know this, and we shouldn't expect him to, because nobody is perfect) of the person who carries the title of 'face of the NHL' , more so than a regular player or a player who is merely the face of a single franchise.

wow, Jarkko is a douchenozzle! Course we already know that. wait aminute...peters....thats the game my Sabres fan friend was telling me about earlier tonight on msn. He was upset that Peters got the penalty and not Ruutu. Don't blame him now i actually read about what happened.

Jus my opinion, but I think yes we may very well have to. You are right, and players ***** all the time. As Gordie Howe put it : "Players know two languages: English and cursing." but Crosby isn't just the face of a franchise like yzerman was, lemieux was, etc. He is the face of the NHL. and a captain to boot. That position - being put up there like that as not only a captain but the face of the entire NHL - carries with it responsibility. It is a position of power in a sense. and I think that hockey fans expect quite a bit from the player that carries this name. Hence all the crosby bashing. Ovechkin did some of what some fans think of as cheapshotting. But even he doesnt get the hype that Crosby does. Because he is not the face of the NHL. I really do think fans expect more from 'the face of the nhl' because thats what position he has right now. I won't start any 'i hate crosby' topics though. I have never started one yet on any board. In facxt i was gonna go make a topic saying that it was nice of Sid to spend a couple of million of his own money to buy new hockey equipment for a minor hockey team in his home town in Nova Scotia. There were girls on this team too and he even bought their jerseys and stuff. Even though thus far only one femalehas even played in an NHL game. not everybody last year omg this guy i knew from university and all he could talk about was, "crosby's so great, crosby's so wonderful, he is our 21st century wayne gretzky. He is our gretzky" and I was like Oh please, spare me. of course I am not sure if this guy knew a thing about hockey. The idiot later stopped talking to me once he found out I am a Tomas Holmström fan who he called a 'dirty unsportsmanlike player ' and 'screening is for losers' and 'goalie obstruction' He also said that if a goalie wasnt on the same level as a Roy or Brodeur (who he loved) then he sucks. He criticized MAF and said he sucks because he cant play like Brodeur. anyway I disgress. This dude compared Crosby with Gretzky. and I bet lots of other people say that type of stuff as well.

I'd also like to point out that yes a person can be a good leader and captain - and never win a stanley cup. Saku Koivu for example is a good leader - without a Cup. Trevor Linden is another. But I just don't see Crosby as there yet in leadership skills. Now he may develop them, because leadership can be learned . But is he there yet? I just don't think so. and again - its not right at this time to compare him with Yzerman and the other captains I've mentioned. Nor is it right - as of yet - to say he is on par with that of SKoivu and Linden. In my opinion anyway.

micah and harold.....puh - lease don't try to compare yzerman with crosby. Leadership, as defined by my army cadet handbook when i was a Royal Canadian Army Cadet in the mid to late 90's - is "The art of influencing human behavior in order to accomplish a task in the manner desired by the leader." Yzerman is regarded as one of the greatest NHL hockey captains ever. Do you think people care that Yzerman complained some when he was younger? Don't think so. Nor do most people care that other captains like Lemieux and Gretzky also complained in their day. But - did they make up for it? I think so. Did they help bring championships to their respective teams and help make them into dynasties? Yes they did. (well except pittsburgh, but who knows what would have happened if Lemieux wasnt plagued by health problems. Would probably have brought more cups to pittsburgh.) When Crosby has accomplished what these people have done - then we'll talk. When Crosby does this, people won't care about his blemishes. He has set good records and good stats for such a young man. I am not trying to erase the fact he has accomplished and done well for himself so far. But as of yet - it isnt fair or right to compare Crosby with these other people who are practically legends.

No. I don't think that. A period is 20 mins - all hockey fans know this. But he did spend the equivalent of one period in the box/off the ice. Plus one extra minute. Whatever though. I still think Crosby was being a douchenozzle.

and this is our face of our NHL, folks ...way to go Buttman, you really know how to pick em of course Buttman skulked off to the media and complains about our winning the winter classic...cause his other NHL faces didnt get to have their 'coming out' party. No wonder he likes Duchess Crosby. They have a lot in common, hehehe We all know a captain may from time to time when his team is in a slump get a little something going to inspire his team and get them perked up. Not this pathetic excuse for a captian. He goes and spends the equivalent of one entire period of hockey - 21 mins total - in the box/off the ice. Thats really helping your team, Imust say. Way to go. Thats telling those Panthers! I hope he and Therrien for that matter, they are both pathetic, not even pens fans like therrien - never win any cups.

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i know why the wings didnt win this game. They just got back from Christmas break. a little too much egg nog

I posted in one of the threads on the official Hawks board (just contributing to a conversation, not being mean or nasty or anything but just normal) about how my so called 'friend' several years ago now went out with my ex behind my back in a thread about would you date a friend's ex or something like that One of the hawks fans wrote back that I deserved everything bad that happens to me until I stop being a Wings fan. (and before some Hawks fan reads these boards and tries to use this post against me, as had happened to me before, no, I am not hating on the hawks or hawks fans or calling you anything. I'm just stating fact.) By comparison I have never been treated this way by avs fans on their board. They've been a pretty nice bunch actually. Blues fans - well i havent been to their boards yet. What I can say about the Blues was I resented their going after Tomas H. the other night with the tripping and crosschecking. He is a player with a Lady Byng side to him - yes, a pain sometimes with the screening but with the respect for the other team. He won't hurt you (well except on the scoreboard but thats his job.) Pens fans - wonderful. Havent got a bad word to say about them, they've been very nice to me. I'd also like to add, To be fair to the Hawks, and avoid generalizing an entire fanbase on the Hawks boards, There are some smart great hawksfans who do post there and can't say anything bad about them. Wonderful people. You know who you are And you've treated me very well. and thank you. However, there are people on the hawks boards who are just repulsive, and some of their fellow Hawks fans on the boards even can't stand what they say sometimes. as for the words detoilet and wang (as they call detroit and wing) those words used to bother me, but not anymore. I hear things like that said by every fan - Laffs, Analheim Sucks, Trashers, Calgary Lames for example....You name it. It doesnt bother me anymore. Thats just hockey talk, normal hockey smack. Still can't compare to the Flyers fan who ripped totally into me on an unofficial hockey forum when I announced that I had decided to have the wings as my first favorite team. I have been a wings fan since 1995 but never always had em as my first fave team they were my second. But man when i told people on that board, was he nasty! I have always had a dislike for Flyers (and a lot of the fanbase) but that episode just made me dislike them even more.

You did the right thing. I'm the biggest holmer fan and as a big fan I have too much love and respect for him to bother him when he is with his family (if I ever visited there and got the chance to see him) He's a father, and a husband, and deserves time out with his family privacy. He signed my cards for me through the mail so I 'm happy with that though.

In the 90's I had a Nucks jersey because I was a huge fan of Pavel Bure so I had his jersey. I also own a Saku Koivu jersey and another canadiens jersey cause the Habs are my second fave team. So yeah, I'd have jerseys of other teams that arent the wings. and yeah, I'd even wear an avs jersey like i said. I don't dislike the avs, never did, but it really annoyed me when Claude Lemieux bashed Kris Draper and broke his jaw. Thats something I watched and will never forget. But Claude is a douchenozzle anyway so I am not one bit surprised. well I have to add, Flyers, Leafs, Bruins and Ducks. I wouldnt wear one of their jerseys even if it was the last item of clothing available on the planet. I'd wrap myself in leaves instead. Even though I do really like some of the players on the teams, an example would be Lucic of boston and Selanne of the Ducks, but even my liking of them isnt enough to overcome my dislike for the team. My dad who's a fan of the Montreal Canadiens (and a newfoundlander like me) said that he was going to bring home something of Boston's when Michael Ryder joined the team over the summer. I said, well you can, but I might not be able to be held responsible for my actions

Thats an interesting question. I think yes. I would, if I loved a player on the team enough. I've worn jerseys from other teams simply because I was a fan of one of their players.

Mats Sundin once said about Don Cherry that "when you see the clown at the circus you laugh and don't take what he says and does seriously. I think Don Cherry's a clown on television". Enough said.

what kind of a response did you get? I'm curious cause I've written to some - Pavel Bure, Teemu Selanne, Alexei Zhamnov, and Mario Lemieux I asked for their autographs and I received them too wrote them in the 1990's and still treasure what they sent me. I'm wondering if you wrote to any nhl players what kind of response did u receive? note? autograph? Did you send a card and ask for their john henry? did u get it back signed? what were the responses like? were they friendly? when I wrote to lemieux it wazs about 1993 I suppose and he'd won the cup the year before and he'd just become a father plus he waS a community guy helping out with charity and such so I wrote him on that congratulated him on that I never sent a card but he sent me a pic of him with his autograph on it when i wrote pavel bure I had been from the mid 90's to the late 90's a member of the pavel bure fan club and paid membership dues things like that and I sent him one of his cards and asked for his autograpgh and I got it back signed. I suppose being in his fan club - he might have been happy to oblige. Selanne and Zhamnov - when I wrote the two of them they were like - I might compare them to Dats and Hank of today- almost. They were like thepower duo of them Jets as they were before they became the Coyotes. Selanne even had the honor of breaking one of Mike Bossy's records and Zhamnov scored five goals in one gAME. Anyway I wrote the two of them and they sent me their autographed pics. So I'm wondering about you people. How did u find the players, friendly or no, and did u ask for an autograph, did u get it....etc?

btw when i went to the post office to buy the stamps for my two envelopes and ironically they both cost 96 cents each and they say 96 right on the stamp. Hehehe, I wonder if they saw that and had a bit of a chuckle at that, cause I sure did when i realized it.

don'tworry I wasn't Just to revive my old thread here so I wrote to Holmström like I said i was gonna do, I put the address on the envelope like this, as Princess told me: ATTN: Tomas Holmström C/O Detroit Red Wings Joe Louis Arena 600 Civic Center Drive Detroit, MI 48226 I was clever, I sent two cards (to check and compare them for the autopen machine) and its polite and considerate anyway to send only two. Its enough to compare but not so many cards that shows that you have respect for the fact that these guys are often quite busy and don't have the time to sign a lot of cards all at once. I also sent a self addressed stamped envelope for the same reason. Respect and consideration. Anyway i sent the letter around September 5. A few days ago (Dec 2) my dad picked up the mail and my envelope was there. No return address on it, it was my self addressed one. I opened it and pulled out my cards signed! Both of them. The autographs are similar but they arent the same, not exact duplicates. I'm 100% sure these were not autopenned or stamped. It was pretty special to receive these from my favorite player. I practically purred anyway, I took a pic of them with my digital camera just a few mins after I opened the envelope. Pretty classy and very sweet of him to do that for me. Those cards made my Christmas. and I hopeI made him smile with my letter. I really wanted him to know I love him and appreciate him as a person and appreciate his work. anyway here they are.

I agree. Good god, I'm only 2 years older than Avery, but I have more maturity in one little finger. Good god. I'm actually friends with my exes, and when i broke up with my ex bf just after the wings won the cup in june, it was not exactly on good terms. It was a misunderstanding and a bit of a fight. But we're good friends now. But even with the ex I'm not friends with and havent seen in years, I still would not degrade him and call him sloppy seconds if a co - worker dated him. even as much as it still would show immaturity and such to say it when you're not at work, it goes that its doubly wrong to say it in public, national tv, when you're still basically at work. and you're a professional person in the spotlight. Good grief. I saw this and heard the avery interview while i was watching the habs/thrashers game. and i thought to myself, Wtf.... That said though, I like this here: That would have been fun. I agree. But i do think the NHL did the right thing. It was degrading and sexist what avery said. Also a double standard. Why don't men really get called sloppy seconds. Its mostly just us females. How is it that people even have to ask how it can offend someone. The answer is obvious. During intermission of the habs game that night, the announcer even warned that some viewers 'may find this offensive' before showing the interview.

it's safe to say that I think my seven year old cousin and her cat could do a better job of nhl comssioner than Bettman

my brother had a lisp when he was a child and I never spoke until i was three. we both had speech difficulties that we got over and we both speak fine now (I am 30 my bro is 35) when i read about what avery did to brown i was shocked to say the least. Making fun of someone's speech impediment. what an ***hole. well that and he defending Ott when Ott was going over the knees of Bruins during the Stars Bruins game of a while back. what douches. as someone else said, f*** you, Sean.