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And wow did we miss Danny D or what? 3 gimmie goals right in front of the crease. If Big Rig isn't out there we've got no one willing to knock people on their ass.

I don't know about you guys but that Abby call got me so mad. If that isn't a hockey play I don't know what is anymore.

nevermind this. can't figure out how to delete posts.

All of those guys played in higher scoring eras. I'm not saying Pav would've been close to their numbers in that era (he wouldn't have but those are 3 of the top players of all time depending on where you put Yzerman) but it's an unfair comparsion. Pav has played the majority of his career in dead puck era or dead puck era-lite. The couple seasons where scoring was closer to the level of the 80s and early 90s Pavs put up 97 point seasons. Adjusted stats on Hockey Reference puts that at a 105 and 100 point pace. By comparsion Yzerman's astronomical season of 155 points is at an adjusted 128 points. Another thing to consider is Dats plays elite defense. As good as if not better defense than all 3 of them (at least the Stevie of the 80s). I can't accurately rate Gretz or Mario because I didn't see them play day in and day out but I've never heard people mistake them as defensive workhorses. Maybe if Pavel didn't spend so much of his energy playing a two-way game he'd put up higher offensive totals.

900+ games (1000 if you count playoffs) is too short? And what will compling a couple more ppg or less seasons do to make Pavel more worthy in your mind? We know what type of player he is and what he brings, 5 years of dimishing hockey won't change that. Also remember he might've had his peak year taken away in 05. Abel didn't play any where close to the amount of games these two have. Both have played more than Ted as well. Actually Pav has played 83 less games than Lindsey. By next year it wil be close. My mistake.

It didn't do anything for me and I hate Corey Perry. The radio stations are making a deal out of it here but I don't see it. Yeah he shouldn't be so reckless and it's a dangerous play, but he got his penalty. If he does it a second time then it's a different story and someone like Tootoo should be the s*** out of him.

I'd be okay with sitting Tootoo for Bert to see what he's got to offer. If it doesn't work just switch him out next game.

They played well enough to win. All I can ask. If they keep up that effort I'm not too worried about the series. We've got a fighting chance.

Cool, I actually miss Colorado being a power in the NHL. I miss the battles. With Sacco gone they might actually do something with all that talent.

Slava wasn't too bad himself.

1 and 9. Sawchuk, Howe, Yzerman, Fedorov. Not bad.

Fedorov is and always has been a lock. Lindros is probably getting this year. Pavs is also getting in, the two lockouts have hurt his point totals but the hardware and production is there (two-way play is a huge plus). Z needs to snag a selke, continue putting up top 20 point totals and elite playoff production, and snag another allstar team. One thing Z really has going for him is he is number 1 in points in the playoffs since the 05 lockout. If he continues to play until his late 30s he stacks up well with players like Joe Nieuwendyk.

From watching Dats bust his ass every day the past decade I'd say he has leadership. Lots of times he's the only one who gives a damn out there. Leadership isn't only speaking english well.

If it was up to me I'd put Kelly, Fedorov, Pavel, and Shanahan up there. Yes Shanny wasn't here all that long. Boo hoo. We don't win a cup without him and his leadership was almost on par with Stevie. It's arguable he meant as much as Stevie and Nick to this team while he was here (especially with all the injuries Stevie dealt with). Z probably too when it's all said and done (has to make the hall of fame). Not sure on Osgood, Aurie, or Vladdy. No to Chelios or any of the role players (Holmer, Drapes, etc).

Some of these choices are headscractching to say the least.

Have fun in the minors Mrazek. Let's have Howard make one cup run before we start throwing Osgood under the bus.

I wouldn't mind Bert's big body in the playoffs. Sammy can stay on the bench.

Datsyuk top 15 in scoring with Abs and Cleary for his linemates half the season. Not good enough I guess.

I'll give him credit for that one-time blast off the post. Almost had one. Yeah that was an eye-sore.

Quincey was directly responsible to both Avs goals. illadvised pinch on the first and failure to clear on the 2nd (due to mask?).

He also has the puck more than anyone because he can do the most with it, by far. When he gives it up at least he forces two or three opposing players to pay attention to him. Much better than Franzen or Kronwalls 1on1 giveaways in the neutral zone and blueline.

I was curious how a team playing for Seth Jones was showing more energy than a team fighting for a playoff spot. I chalk it up to back-to-back nights cause overall the team played solid the first two.

He looked great out there. Couple jittery mistakes but at the same time looked comfortable out there. Might've been the smooth skating. After the first couple shifts played the man real well.

I love Datsyuk . Games like this makes you wonder how could you ever split those two up?

Really?