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+1 there goes my hope in Monster's potential. Average backup nothing more. Not that it's a big deal we don't really need anything else from him. I'm more concerned about the completely flat offense and Franzen's careless play unless he's got a chance to rifle the puck wide on goal. Dude just doesn't care even with 50 goal talent.

How many last place teams are we going to lose to this year? And that Franzen turnover was just brutal.

so who's Matt Calvert?

bleh what a lame game

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

I would if the cap hit wasn't so brutal. Definitely an upgrade over Ian White.

Fair enough, throughout this thread my only point is Howard isn't a cup winning goaltender (yet) so he shouldn't get a free pass on bad nights just because he's "our guy". I hope he proves me wrong too. I'd rather argue with Hawks fans than fellow Wing fans. He's doing a pretty good job lately too. I don't blame that late goal in the Chicago loss on him in the slightest. Stupid penalty, bad clearing attempt.

Well let's be real here Colorado hasn't been a good team since the lockout after last.

Before this thread becomes a crash course in advanced statistics and comparisons between eras and gets too off track let me make it clear I'm not asking Howard to be Roy. He never will be and doesn't have to be in order for this team to win. I'm just asking maybe Grant Fuhr-lite or even Osgood meaning, make the save when it counts (last 3 min of the 3rd).

No, they aren't. Scoring was higher back then, the game was different, goalies weren't wearing mattresses as pads, talent wasn't watered down by 3 more expansion teams. Lots of variables. Ever wonder why Roy's GAA and SV (and every other elite goalie of the 80s early 90s) were astronomically higher than when he was in his prime? Are you going to tell me Howard is on the same wave-length of Roy? Let alone a PRIME Roy?

And at 28 his numbers were .918 SV% 2.50 GAA and at 26 they were .914 SV% 2.36 GAA but nice cherry picking his worst statistical season of his career by miles Those numbers aren't that bad in comparison to the league and era. In fact they are borderline elite. http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/1992-93-nhl-goalies-stats.html 8th in SV% (6th in starters) 10th in GAA (also 6th in starters) obliterates Howard's current standing (something like 25th in the league before tonight). Oh and he stepped it up at age 27 with 2.13 GAA and a .929 SV% in the playoff WINNING the Conn Smythe. Good job showing your knowledge in history of this game. What does this even mean? Where did I imply that? lol

At age 28? Yes I do. It seems to be no problem for Monster and Mrazek. But I don't have any interest in having this debate when Jimmie has been turning around his game. I still don't think he's the goalie to lead us to a cup.

whoa now let's not go comparing him to Homer. leading this team in hits isn't something to be proud of.

Oh man Larionov would be an awesome coach. At least as an offensive assistant kind of guy. I've got a feeling our PP would see a big improvement with the professor. But he's got a pretty cushy job in the front office for the KHL and being a high profile player agent.

Oh I see.

Those two (lucky) SCF goals against the Pens were huge. After that nothing of note that I can remember. A couple lost fights and some chip ins.

Agree totally. I admit I was using the term rather loosly. @Jagr.. he might be 40+ but he's got size and can protect the puck. That's a power forward for us.

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Well let's see so far he has 0 points. Negative points?

I'll take him for Carlo, Sammy and a bag of pucks.

Back in the 90s even as a kid I never felt robbed of my enjoyment because of a a tie game. Useless excuse made up by the league to "appease" the "casual fan". Shootouts were for the IHL.

I'd love to have him if it was 1999. Although if it bumps Abs or Clears off the 2nd-line sign me up as a fan.

Howard played great today I might be a hater but this game isn't on him in the slightest. Comparing Howard to Broduer, Roy, and Hasek doesn't make a great case for him. And he sure as hell isn't a top 5 goalie.

ya was a mistake by me.