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A little too late. Leaf players saluting fans ...

Why is Toronto trying so hard.

CLS is no pushover, giving NYI everything they got!

So it could be MTL or TB depending on outcome.

So really, our fate is either Montreal or Tampa no matter what happens, right? We win, it's Tampa, we lose, it's Montreal. Any possibility we can draw NYR? Do we have tie breaker over Pens?

Van has nothing to play for now. Calgary lost. That series is settled. Min vs. STL could be preview of 1st round. Minnie looks good. In the Cali Cup, the LA finally manage a W after losing 3 to fall out of a spot.

Every team is playing today. Not really that many spots are there? 3 teams playing for 2 spots left in the East. Philly playing hard with 30+ SOGs, they are not rolling over. Ott earning it!

"Have you ever played sports before?" .... classic come back to stupid question. I can't wait till his post season interview conference.

If I was in the West say Vancouver Canucks. I might actually prefer playing an out of gas LA team than a hot Flames team ... what do you think?

I agree with OP's opening statement. Fan doesn't mean just support through anything and not calling them out when they are playing below their ability or with no heart. Fan can expect excellence, hard work every night, and the upholding of the Red WIngs tradition. I get that sometimes we lose but if they give an honest effort and they lose, that's hockey, that's sports ... I'm perfectly fine with that. But when they sleep for 20 mins and get down 0-2 and then play hockey for next 40 mins but can't equalize, and lose ... that deserves some sh*t raising.

The latter.

Hope you're right. Although players on Pens might be tanking so that management fire Johnson to hire Babs.

I hope Florida has the same mentality as CBJ, play loose and try to kick some teams out of playoffs like what they did to Pitts the other night.

Can't we bend the rules somehow and let Florida in on some technicality?

Is there any combination that will make both Boston and Pittsburgh out of playoffs?

I don't see how this system will motivate teams to try any harder than they do now. Seriously. I've seen websites where they actually award points using this 3 point system on this season's records and the rankings come out about the same with maybe #8 and #7 switched around ... so I don't think this will make one iota of difference.

What ??!! When did that happen. Bummer indeed.

If LA can lose to Edm, then Was can certainly take Bos out. Question is, does Was have anything to play for?

Collapse is on par with the Leafs collapse in 2012-13 and 2013-14. 2013-14 Leafs close out season with 2 W and 14 L ... we must be close to that.

Everyone was counting on 4 pts with 2 games vs. Carolina ... we are the sh*tz against bottom feeder teams. Winnipeg and Ott at least playing with heart. Not watching the rest of this crap. At the end, the number beside Det better be higher than the number beside Car.

wow ... just wow. Looks like it will be Det and Ott ... for that last spot. I don't even know what to say anymore.

Ottawa has Pitts just where they want them ... now watch the come back.

If we can't beat Carolina with their backup goalie, so help us God. Is Carolina throwing us a bone? Pitts up 2-0 already but I'm with others ... Go Sens. Poo on Pitts.

2 mins each for haroldsnepsts and kipwinger. There are 2 illogical arguments used in this thread. First, coach is given crappy roster and can't do any better. A good coach takes what he is given and gets more out of them. That's the definition of a GOOD coach. An average coach get s what an average team puts out. A bad coach gets less output than what the roster should produce. Right now if you ask me for my personal opinion which you all care about I'm sure, our roster should be performing better than scraping by to get in. We should be 3rd or 4th in the East. Therefore, Babs is an average to good coach this year. Last year, he was a great coach. Second is the opposite. A team is stacked by a good GM and any schmoe should be able to get them to the SCF. That is obviously another fallacy. I don't need to give the many examples of bad coaches who fail miserably with a good roster. So don't discount Quennville or Sutter because you think they got stacked teams into the conversation of great or even 'best' coach discussion, both managing to win 2 over the last 5 years. Even Babs didn't manage to win 2 SC ...ever. Only other thing I would add is a coach's long term performance record because that evens out the year to year roster fluctuations. On this criteria, you have to put Babs in the conversation of the bests .... but he is not a unanimous winner by a country mile as some seem to suggest. He should be considered but I think there are easily 2 or 3 other active coaches that deserve consideration.

We definitely do. This thread was started to say that we are coming close to the level of the Leafs if we end up being in 9th spot in the East, which is becoming a real possibility at this rate. Except the Wings are even dumber becuz we didn't tank earlier to be in a better position to draft. As someone alluded to, what a difference a year makes. We were so proud of the team playing their hearts out and fighting every night last year to get into the playoffs. This year ... I've never been more frustrated and disappointed with them, this team's effort is embarrassing and makes me want to throw up.