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it is even now. Let's just settle down

Answer itself. For me, yes. I kept saying in my for long time. Some people just said Howard is not the best goalie in his team and Larsson does. Ok. Then lets bring up either of them and give them chances to play. Ozzie's save percentage is lower than .900, and average GAA is over 3.20, which is just awful. He makes key saves but he always looks lost like today's game. Conks has been ok so far this season. If it is already passed the Feberaury, I would not suggest this plan but it is still not even 30 games in the season. We need time to test our young players like Helm, Leino, Howard, Larsson, and Abelkalder who can bring some effect. Then if they play good, let's keep them in the team. I think it is time for change something. 1/3 of season has gone and 2/3 seasons are left. This is heading for the end of December. Some people are still saying it is still not close to March and April. Truth is that time is going quicker than we expect and the effort and motivation problems of our teams cannot fixed in a short period.

It is sad that Ozzie is injured. I don't know how you guys will think of me but this is the situation that I really wished to happen. Ozzie has been just horrible this season but I hope this injury and break time will bring his game back. I hope we can see both Howard and Larsson's performance, not only one goalie. Howard was impressive last season but this season he is pretty struggling. But I think he is a pretty solid goalie as I watched the game between Wings and Habs in the pre-season. I never saw the Larsson's play but it sounds from you guys that he is playing great. Conklin allowed 4 goals against the Sharks in last game so I hope our rookie goalie can start the game against the Sharks on Thursday. It will be our real test that where we are exactly at. No excuse for winning against the Sharks No excuse for losing against the Sharks.

When I was watching with the Wings having troubles on a defensive zone, Wings couldnt steal the puck for 2 or 3 minutes. I hope we can fix something..

Ok, now we have to realize something. Our team has been just awful as a defense. I really don't know we can fix this problem as time goes more and more because these guys look to have motivation...We need some big recognition by ourselves. Some people still say win is win. Yes. Win is a win. But Wings should play way better than this. I know our offenses and defenses have a lot of talent. But talent is only talnet, not winning the game. What leads teams to win games is bringing up a lot of effort with high skill. To prove this, how many one-goal games do we have this season? We had a lot of comeplete games last season. But this season, Shootout has made us to get 4 or 5 wins and other winning games were almost by one goal game (I did not consider the empty net goals) From the beginning of the season to today's lose, except for the game against Oilers 4-0 shutout, I never saw any complete games by our teams. After I saw the first game against the Leafs and lost against them, I thought it could be fixed because that was the beginning. But now, I think we have to start to worry about our team. Even though some people say Ozzie is playing well but having bad records, but I think he became far worse than last year. I kept saying to bring Howard or Larsson from our farm, but people say it will not change anything. But lets give them some chances to play at least. When I was watching Howard's play, I started to consider him as our next generation goalie, who is very stable and relax the team well. Besides, our checking 4th line do not look good either. More importantly, Kronwall and Stuart have given us no help at all, they sometimes look just holes of our team right now. Lidstrom is not playing his best but he is playing fine. Stuart-Kronwall line is just dismal. Our latest games and even some game are always in same patterns. Screwing up the first period then get one goal in 2nd period and lose another goal. And making some sensational comeback in the 3rd period. But it did not work today and we cannot make this kind of way of playing everyday. I know we are the 2nd in the west and 3rd overall in the league and still not having even 30 games. But come on. If it is still going this way, it will not be helpful and if we dont fix this to the playoffs,.....dont want to imagine....... I hope today's game will help Wings in many ways. Bring up the effort and stop thinking we are champions. Yes we were, but this season is 08-09, not 07-08. Need motiviation. Our real test will be on Thursday against the Sharks, the team I am really scared of and having a lot of talent. Also a lot of effot, which Wings do not have at all.

can we bring another miracle comeback? please T.T

ok lets convert this effort to goals

It is not about our talent, it is effot wait! Hossa scored!

I was stuying for my homework and I just started to watched the game and what the hell this team is doing right now

you know.. ATDHE.net is in a problem of updating new games. If you dont believe, go and check: there is still Dallas and Nashville game out there

is there any online stream today except for justin tv? (justin tv is not working for me)

Because I live in Vancouver, I watch the Wings games when they are on RSW. But except for Wings play against Canucks, I used to watch Wings games on the online Justin Tv and atdhe.net. But since 3 days ago, it does not work for me. Weird thing is basketball games show up and soccer does too. But only hockey games do not show up. More weird thing is adthe.net on my computer looks not updating new games. If I go to Atdhe.net right now, the date says Sunday Dec.14th but there is no today's game and there are still Stars-Predators game, which happened yesterday Same with Justin.TV. If I just enter the Justin TV, it shows nothing and says this page is under the error. Is it only me who has troubles like this or other people have same problem? If you know how to solve, could you guys tell me how to solve these problems or another hockey stream site?

Not a great game at all for Wings except for 2nd period but I am gonna take good 2 points.I really dont know Wings deserved a win today but it is always good to see a win. And Ozzie obviously deserved a win. We faced 2 road games back to back day from Stars to Coyotes and it was maybe hard for players to play consecutive games because of lack of energy. I am really happy Wings got back in the power play and good PK this game. Mostly, Ozzie became just amazing except for 4th goal, which is kind of a weak goal. But overall, Ozzie was really good to make key saves. He would allow only 1 or 2 goals if our holes Kronwall and Stuart played way better. Nice to see ZDH line again and they produced a goal and showed a good movement. Franzen is just a beast, scoring one SH goal and Wings saving goal just few seconds left except for a weird(?) shoot out. I think Wings put a lot of effort but also referee was just super bias that did not give us calls that were deserved to be called. Also nice to Chellios is back and made a good showing in this game. Still again to say, it is awesome that it is only 28 games right? Playoffs is not tomorrow And we have time to fix it. And!!!!!! Sharks looks to lose?? p.s)) Is Hossa's injury little bit serious? he did not look great last two games.

can we bring another SO win?

OT is coming one point in the pocket lets get one more

Mule you are my hero!

can we just score right now.. blowing up the 3rd period.. kind of depressed last few days but why is ref so ***

Kronwall, Stuart you guys are holes of us.....

pavel! it was close. ZDH line with Nick and Rafalski surely works awesome out there. Ozzie has been good on key saves. Hossa somehow has not been good since the flames games.. guess cuz of injury? Kronwall and Stuart shoud play better.. always having heart attack when they are on the ice..

our big hole is the second pair. Stuart and Kronwall....

tie game hmm.. but good to see Z has been playing excellent and ZDH are put together and other lines look good. Just no making mistake is our problem. Feel a win for today.

according to this, I think it is Kronwall's fault again? He has not been as good as last season. well.. our whole defense is not really great right now though..

I am predicting 3-2 for wings. If we can bring a lot of effort and motivation, we can make a shutout

the truth is we did not play great. I really hope Babcock to put ZDH line together back as the last season because they really worked one of the best in the league last year. I actually did not watch the game but I heard from my friend that Wings powerplays were pretty bad. The thing is at the beginning of the season, our PP was amazing but last few games, our PP has been awful. Lately, I think PK has been good, the percentage is low because at the beginning, our PK was just horrible. Datsyuk somehow does not look in the recent. Great individual skill but somehow looks lost. Still, I think Wings need more efforts like last year

not a defense problem, not a goalie problem, not an offense problem, not a coach problem an effort problem!!!