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Yes, yes he is.

BIG SAVE OZZY. Looking sluggish.

Maybe that hit wakes sleeping dragon in Leino up.

Man Claude Julien looks goofy.

Some good hits early. Nice job Kronners.

How's the view from up there? Thing's said on the ice shouldn't be taken literally. In the heat of the game thing's happen especially when your that age, it's a good lesson for the kid getting insulted not to lose his composure, because in every aspect of life their are going to be people trying to distract you. My brother is mentally handicapped and playing locally when I was young it was a hot topic to make fun of him. Did I let it bother me? Nope, I ignored it and scored goals and shoved it in their face. I didn't look for the refs to worry about what the mean kids said to me.

Might as well fluff that players pillows while their at it. You've never said something like that when you were 16 playing hockey?

Really? That's all he said? I've heard worse things in Pee-Wee hockey when I was 12.

You brought bias into by calling it a dirty hit.

Nah, I was pretty much joking. Williams is practically Leino, but can actually play the point on the pp.

I have a christmas ornament Gordie Howe figurine that's signed by Gordie. I have a fresh 5130 sherwood signed by Shanahan and McCarty. And a Datsyuk jersey signed by Datsyuk.

Make that Leino instead of Williams and water bottle instead of bottles.

Sorry about being rash about Kindl. I guess I'm in the same boat about Kindl's performance as you are. Been waiting for him to break through for awhile now...

No I'm just excessively ugly and depressed.

That's because Kindl has been very very poor in the defensive zone in the AHL. He isn't very good defensively yet that's why he needs to improve in the AHL first. Same reason why Abdelkader wasn't called up before Helm, Helm isn't going to be a top liner therefore he can call up and get going in the NHL, while Abdelkader can stay down in the AHL hone his game and come up and play on the top lines(obviously injuries hurt this plan this year). You seem like a Kindl homer, is he your brother or something? Do you want to see him get beat wide by George Laraque in the NHL nightly?

Not really, it's a lot easier to call up a veteran like Janik then take ice time away from a prospect. Not to mention Kindl needs to focus on the basics in the AHL then get thrown to the wolves in the NHL.

I thought I read somewhere in the thread that the Penguin's should be lower. I was just using that comment to express that they weren't a bad team at all, and they are right where they should be.

Yeah, making it to back to back Stanley Cup finals is easy anyways.

Don't you know? Crosby and Malkin are bordline AHL pests that can't even tie their skates without help from Crosby's mom.

Let them atleast start to play the game before you declare the defense crap. We have no idea how the new pairs will mesh, who knows they may even have better chemistry than before. Janik isn't a horrible defenseman btw. It's not like he is a Andrew Peters of defenseman.

I agree, older kids(16+) with a full cage can feel even more invincible out there and start developing bad habits.

Alright and my point is they should focus on malicious unsportsmanlike plays, not plays that are only a penalty because of slow motion cameras and looking at the outcome. I look at hits like that, like the baseball strike zone. Sure they could double check every single pitch and make sure it's a ball or strike, but they don't. I feel it should be the regarding hockey checks, let the refs decide in real time whether or not the play was deserving of a penalty. To me if there can be an argument on whether a hit was dirty it shouldn't be a suspension most of the time. A dirty hit should be practically seen by any hockey fan and be agreed on saying "wow that player really knew what he was doing and was intently trying to injure another player." We'll agree to disagree

Have you tried lining someone up on the open ice? When Wisniewski commited his forearm was in, he leaned out lost his balance and instinctively hit with the forearm. There is no way he could of let up in that situation, it's such a split second decision to commit to an open ice hit. We will see open ice hits disappear when you start enforcing these types of hits. Give the guy a penalty, it wasn't late he was trying to do his job in not letting Doan get around him, it wasn't a situation of retaliation or hatred for Doan just a simply play that happened to have the wrong outcome. Knee to knees are a lot easier to control, they happen when you don't pick up your back leg and too me are much easier to enforce considering the circumstances that surround them.

I'm not saying all dirty hits need to be legalized. Knee to knees, obvious elbows, checking from behind need to be enforced. I've just seen Luke Richardson do this his whole career and people praised him for it. No one was against that hit on Granato when that happened. Not even a scrum after it. So if you think that the Wisniewski hit was a needless risk, yet the Mike Richard wasn't I have no way to understand your point. In my opinion both should not be suspensions, they are just normal hockey plays that had an unfortunate result.