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Malkin barely EVER played even strength with Crosby. Most of their points came on the power play together. 35% of Getzlaf's points were scored with Perry + Ryan on even strength. dobberhockey.com look it up I am being objective

Over a career? Yes. Over 5 games? Not so much. Malkin is great don't get me wrong, and if he has another great season next year he'll be right back up there with Crosby/Ovechkin.

Perfect. I would love to hear this. I would love to see how a 23 year old with 381 points in 309 games is better than and 22 year old with 506 points in 370 games. Not to mention one is a much better face off man. Guess which one? Bill Guerin and Chris Kunitz versus Downie and St. Louis and Malone... Hell Getzlaf played with Perry and Ryan! Talk about a hell of a supporting cast... Put Crosby with Perry and Ryan.

Cheapshots? Are we talking about the same player? When I think of cheapshots I think of Ovechkin putting a player into the boards from behind, or kneeing other players. You know actually plays that could end careers? Crosby isn't an angel on the ice, but hockey is a physical and emotional game I'd be worried if a player didn't show any emotion. I hate the diving, but it's up to the NHL to enforce it not the players. Hockey is a competitive game and you have to use every advantage you can. Don't act like Crosby is the pioneer of embellishing. Getzlaf and Ryan are not in the same class as Crosby/Ovechkin are. As a league you have to market your very BEST players. I don't even really care about marketing, I just like watching hockey and watching Ovechkin/Crosby play is quite a treat and I'm happy to leave it at that. Marketing is about attracting new fans, not to satisfy existing fans that's what the game itself is for.

Ok answer this. Which NHL player are they going to market? Crosby has over 500 points before he is 23, career 1.3 PPG in the post season, a Stanley Cup, Olympic gold, Hart trophy, Lester etc. Just on those accomplishments alone he's going to be marketed, not to mention the fact that he portrays himself as mildly as a cucumber to the media. Stamkos will get his attention soon enough, but there aren't a lot of players that are in the top 3 of scoring perennially like Crosby and Ovechkin have since they've been in the league. Maybe if Datsyuk, Malkin, Parise etc. followed up their performances 2 years ago they would be included with Ovechkin/Crosby but they didn't. It's clear that Ovechkin/Crosby are far and away are consistently two of the best players year in year out.

Going to be interesting to see if Carolina tries to get Jordan and Marc. A collection of Staal's would be interesting. How would Jordan's and Jared's name be on the back of the jersey? Jo. Staal and Ja. Staal haha?

Tukka Rask Doughty-Myers Parise-Crosby-Stamkos

I fail to see how *** bashing is "fun". Oh trust me I'm not offended in the least. I just choose to follow the rules on the forum. This isn't 4chan, somethingawful etc. Probably should use those avenues if you want to get your "lulz".

Mature. Also really mature. Nothing is funnier then 3 year old internet memes.

I love their team but cannot stand their fans. It's one thing to be happy. It's quite another to do what they did.

People do get too hot and bothered when it comes to these discussions. There are people that send me death threats, call me a "******", call me a tool, say I'm ruining this forum etc. (By the way I've never made a Crosby thread) It's crazy that a disagreement about the ability of a certain player that is clearly at the very least a top 3 talent can cause so much emotional distress. People just need to take a step back and have fun.

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I would if Boston was healthy(Granted Philly is banged up too). I just don't think it would be that good. I think Montreal could match up well with Philly. Philly is more physical, but I don't think they are going to be able to score. Habs PP has been impressive and Philly loves to take penalties. Either one would be a good series, although each one is dependent on how long Halak can continue to stand on his head.

Haha yeah I just don't get people that call me a tool and send me death threats through PMs... and yeah I'm really high tonight, can't blame me both my teams are out

I wasn't "wrong". I was just generally representing them, I honestly didn't realized they used games played in the ranking for that so I just grouped him with the same numbers. Honest mistake noticed I said "tied".

Are you really going to dissect games played? Fine, I guess Daniel Sedin should be a Lester candidate then. And 10th in face-off percentage? If you are selectively using games played in the points then you shouldn't count Backstrom, Pahlsson, Vasichek,Sirokovs because they didn't play 6-7 games. Crosby was only beaten by Toews and Kesler. And Crosby was matched up against top lines unlike Toews. But I don't want to start digging into detail just to sway my argument because we could go all night. Once again He's got over 500 points before he's 23 and has a career 1.3 PPG in the playoffs. He's good, really really good. Face it. Come to me when any top 20 player in the league in points is in the top 3 of their team PK in ice time. I'm pretty sure Datsyuk/Zetterberg are great defensively yet aren't used in the top 3 on the PK...

Well the do have some sort of ground to stand on atleast. Granted 76-78 was a long time ago but the Philly certain wasn't an NHL favorite for a long time...

You act like all I do is post about Crosby... I don't see how my certain fondness of a player as talented as the C-word means I'm a horrible human being that is horrible to get along with and have no friends. I'm quite happy thank you very much, and life goes easier when you don't get mad over little things especially when they don't directly involve you in any significant way...

Regular season doesn't equal Olympic tournament points sorry. Just because you want to argue semantics in order to try and prove that a 22 year old phenom that is far and away your country's best player just mind boggles me. Come on Drake, you are smart enough. Look at the battles and face offs Crosby wins. Look at his back-checking and and break out passes in the defensive zone. Look at his strength along the boards and ability to strafe with the puck. Your irrational hate for him is just leaving me speachless. He's got over 500 points before he's 23 and has a career 1.3 PPG in the playoffs. He's good, really really good just face it.

Oh yeah, it was great. About as good as the entire Red Wings team looked in game 5. This just hasn't been a good year all around for me. Philly better come through for me now!

Tied for 4th in the tournament in points, 2nd in goals, and the top face off man in the entire tournament is playing poorly? He carried your country on his back, you should be thanking him.

Can't be the best every year. At least he doesn't cry to the media like Oviebaby.

No, I clearly said at the end of the Caps-Habs series that Bodreau cost the caps and Ovechkin played well. I did say Ovechkin completely choked in the Olympics though. And Halak had some great saves in game 7 verse the Pens...

Rask just looks like a great goalie.

Ovechkin-Crosby-Stamkos Daniel Sedin-Henrik Sedin-Zetterberg Malkin-Datsyuk-Gaborik Parise-B. Richards-Kane Lidstrom-Pronger Doughty-Keith Boyle-Chara Miller Rask Hmm probably missed some big names, but I'm emotional distraught.