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  2. Posted · Edited by DangleDangleBeach · Report reply

    i would take ott in a heartbeat. he pisses his opponents off, plays high energy and finishes every single check. he kills penalties, even can play holmstrom like pp role, is solid on faceoffs(55% last year), will stick up for his teammates . he does all of this and more but also has an offensive touch as well... a GREAT 3rd line center/wings who adds quite a few elements this team could really use and havent had recently. just my opinion though.

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    Opportunity, not money, will be the deciding factor in securing Schultz. The Red Wings are prepared to guarantee him a roster spot at the start of the season, something every team that pursues him will need to do.

    Schultz's contract will be the same wherever he goes. He is restricted to a two-year, two-way entry-level deal with a base NHL salary of $925,000. His team must make a $3.8 million salary-cap commitment, however, due to potential bonuses, many of which are not realistically attainable

    per mlive article... not sure if it was mentioned already but i thought it was interesting.

    http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2012/06/red_wings_have_begun_their_pur.html

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    $2M of Schultz's $3.8M cap hit is pretty much impossible for him to actually earn. He'd have to win trophies like the Norris, Calder, and Conn Smythe to get that money. Essentially his contract would pay him a salary of either $875k or $925k (not sure which one he qualifies for) plus a possible $850k in bonuses that he has a decent chance of earning. So even though his cap hit will say $3.8M it's really like a $1.5M contract for Smith or Nyquist.

    this

  6. Posted · Edited by DangleDangleBeach · Report reply

    obviously if you could upgrade it would be worthwhile... (ie-yandle) but even so, hes one of our few right handed shots so that may not be the best idea depending on who we get (yandle shoots right). i also feel he is pretty consitent, moderately priced and has the some spark which this team seems to lack at times. i would personally like to see them keep him.

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  7. Posted · Edited by DangleDangleBeach · Report reply

    ryan for filppula isnt even close.

    4 years scoring 30 goals is quite an accomplishment to say the least... and at 25 years old? get real people... flip is a solid 2nd liner... ryan is a bonafide 1st line sniper, gonna take a lot more then filppula for sure

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    Traditional Tuesdays/Boneless Thursdays. For my money, spicy garlic is the most underrated sause on the roster. Sneaky good. Sort of the Pavel Datsyuk of sauses when it comes to getting love in the national media over the years.

    i tend to agree here...

    just dont ever get the Caribbean jerk or you'll feel like a real jerk.

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    Ryan's "s*** year" is not too far off from his career year. He gets more ice time than Franzen. The biggest differences between the 2 are age and durability.

    lol...you are so wrong on so many levels i dont know where to start. you do realize that at age 25 ryan has 136 goals in the nhl and franzen has scored 14 more goals at age 32???? lets not forget that 5 came from 1 game! :)

    franzens career year at age 32 was 58 points which is 13 points less then ryan's career year of 71 points. the problem here is ryan is 7 years younger and will only be getting better for the next few years whereas franzen's game has only declined. by the time ryan is franzen's age, im pretty sure he'll have more then 150 goals.

    at age 25 ryan's "s*** year", his 4th full season in the nhl, he became just the fourth player since the lockout to hit 30 goals in 4 straight seasons. kovalchuk, kessel, iginla are the other 3 but thats probably because of his ice time, right?

    the difference between ryan and franzen? one player has about 100x more potential, possibility to become elite, 100x greater work ethic, HEART, A BETTER nose for the net, a more consistent track record, hell, even better numbers yet is 7 years younger... if you really think the only difference between these two players is age then you just apparently haven't watched ryan play.

    im sorry bro... franzen just isnt that good. his value to you is WAYYYYYY higher then the value any other team would put on him. not saying teams wouldnt want him because somebody would, but to compare him to bobby ryan is so wrong its not even funny.... and it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ICE TIME

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    Ryan had a s*** year last year and it could be because he doesn't want to play in Anaheim anymore. Just like Franzen wants "some fun".

    lol... bobby ryan is 25 and had 1 less point then franzen last year in his "s*** season" (57 points) with a 15.2 shooting percentage which is higher then johan has ever had. ryan s*** season point total ironically enough is actually 2 points less then franzens career year.

    if in ryan's s*** seasons he gets 2 less points then franzens career year... what incentive does anaheim have to swap a consistent 25 year old (4 years 30 goals is consistent) for an 32 year old who is consistently inconsistent? seems quite foolish from their perspective.

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    trade is quite lopsided toward the wings. for a second we can pretend they can afford to sign both stuart and hudler... theres still no guarantee either of them will sign. ryan is so much better then franzen and its really not close and if anaheim is trading ryan you can i can assume they would want to guarantee themselves more then franzen, kindl and a 4th

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    How is it that we got raped in that trade? The Capitals happened to use that draft pick on Green. They could just as easily have picked someone else who turned out to be a complete bust. Lang was leading the league in scoring when the Wings traded for him, and he was one of the few players who showed up in the playoffs that season.

    Your point is based on the highly dubious supposition that the Wings would have selected Green with that pick.

    no i never said we would have drafted green. im just saying that since THEY DID with our pick that they worked us over on this deal looking back. had they drafted sami lepisto or kyle klubertanz it wouldnt look so ugly looking back but since lang never panned out... and since fleischman looks great for florida (as he did in washington) and green can be an offensive stud when healthy i find it hard to say this was a deal that worked out well for the wings.

    once again... i understand hindsight is always 20/20... looking back at how it all worked out its hard for me to say we won this trade.

    no need to respond to this... im just letting you know my logic and to be honest, dont really wanna go back and forth on a trade from years ago. i think we got worked, you think it was an okay trade.... leave it at that.

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    Don't want to trade Helm but would love to get Laich somehow.

    Lang was the leading scorer in the league at the time he was acquired, that trade is a far cry from a "raping".

    yeah at the time we seemed to be making out pretty good but it never worked out as expected and to be honest, lang was a far cry from the player he was with washington for us (maybe had to do with jagr idk). regardless, i would rather have the fleischman green package looking back

    hindsight is always 20/20, but we got the shortend of the stick here no matter how you slice it.

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    The problem is the fans don't know the talent of Oshie and E. Kane, because they are so young. The fans always want a current big name like Parise. The problem with that is you pay a 40 percent premium for one player. I'd rather pay draft picks and young talent for players who are about to explode like Kane and Oshie.

    The funny thing is...I'd give up Pavel Datsyuk for Evander Kane.

    Kane would be 40 percent cheaper and 40 percent younger. Kane at 20 years old scored 30 goals on the second line in Winnipeg! If he was in the draft he'd go first overall! Instead...he's available on the free agent market! Winnipeg is foolish to allow him in the restricted free agent market.

    theres something wrong with you if you would rather have kane then pav... regardless of age. all players are different and not every player hits a brick wall at 35... guys like st louis, whitney, selanne come to mind to make the argument that age is just a number. not only does pav have proven superstar talent, he also is the best of the best without the puck.

    datsyuk > any kane whether its pat or evander

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    i think you guys are SERIOUSLY underestimating girardi if you think the rangers would deal him for quincey and i white package.... try smith and nyquist

    as for schultz... this kids not going to sign here unless we offer him a top 6 spot. wings will want him in the AHL, other teams will take him right on their roster. move ericcson or kindl and we could get him most likely but i can almost guarantee that wont happen.

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    just for the hell of it... im making a team to play your "globetrotters" sorry to hijack your thread just seemed fun. i understand yours was merely on franchise players... but whatever you left off i used on my squad (whether you would start a team with them or not was not something i was worrying about.)

    iginla-datsyuk-st louis

    sedin-sedin-gaborik

    zberg-staal-kane

    benn-backstrom-b richards

    seguin

    chara-lidstrom

    boyle-yandle

    pietrangelo-myers

    pronger (if alive)

    rinne

    miller

    hossa, sharp, thornton, callahan, pavelski, mrichards, nug, hall, eberle, subban, kesler, hossa, eriksson, fleury, price all honorable indeed!

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    No love for us goalies? Thats sad. :D

    The goalie equipment really has been slimmed down already. If they want to increase goal scoring, it will take a major change in the league to make it happen. Removing the crease won't solve much.

    yeah i tend to agree here. though i must say... playing without creases i think would increase goal scoring (at least if i was the goalie, lol). i think the shrinking of the pads from 12 to 10 inches and the rules on bulky chest protectors / jerseys etc have kept the goaltending in check to a certain extent and at least have made it.

    yes, i agree goalies have adapted and are probably the best today then they have been ever... but its not like the players arent bigger, stronger and faster then they were in previous years. as goalies get better, so do the players (they have to) and when guys can shoot well over 100 mph i think the goalies have enough to worry about without taking their creases away.

    just my 2 cents, dont mean to step on toes

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    i would be more then lost without my crease. taking a crease away would almost be like taking the goalies stick away. as you move as a goalie your crease is kind of like your map where you always have a sense as to where you are relative to the net, by where your crease is under you. you would have to take it out in youth hockey and wait to enforce it in the nhl once all the old timers who were accustomed to the crease are gone. to just take howards crease away tomorrow would throw his entire game off, i promise.

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