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I didn't say he didn't have a plan, I said his plan sucks. esteef

If what you said were true then Holland wouldn't have needed to go after Suter at all right? I mean if the plan all along was to use Big E and Quincey then why all the fuss about Suter or Garrison or Schultz or even throwing the offer to Salo? Kenny struck out with Suter and he's know trying to pull a top 4 d-man out of his ass at the last minute. A top 4 of Kronner-White-Big E and Quincey is bools*** considering the time, assets and money Holland had to piece together something better. He can still lay a golden egg and bring in a top d-man, but now it'll probably cost him dearly. We'll probably be getting another Lilja. esteef

Exactly what I meant! esteef

Smith replaces Lidstrom? Kindl replaces Stuart? More like Kronwall replaces Lids, Quincey replaces Stuart and we still need a top 4 d-man. esteef

ANYBODY, cuz right now there's no one. Good? K Bye. esteef

It's not that Holland didn't get Suter, it's that getting Suter was apparently his only f***in' plan. And now he's scrambling to fill a hole he knew was coming for years because his brilliant plan of waiting til the last minute didn't work out. But don't let that stop all the Holland poodles from defending him. esteef

"I signed 13 years in Minny so I could be close to my mommy!" esteef

The fight against Domi alone was epic, and I'm not one of these young punks just tossing that word around! Amazing Grace on the bagpipes is f***in' awesome btw. esteef

Getting Doan and Tootoo in one off season would be magically delicious! esteef

Translation: It's an opinion. esteef

Who gives a s*** what Smith thinks? Acquiring good players is the goal not playing patty-cake with everybody's feelings. esteef

That was great? Sounds like just another thread around here. esteef

Holland fell in love with his players and didn't want to part with anyone that would actually bring in a nice return on a d-man somewhat close to being able to fill Lidstrom's spot. He waited til the last f***in minute and assumed he would just sign a big check for Suter and be done. Half-ass filling Rafalski's spot with White should've been his wake-up call to start getting someone in place for Lids eventual retirement. Now he's up s***'s creek without a Lidstrom and everybody who he needs to trade with knows it. esteef

Nah dude, Holland is God. We're just spoiled, entitled fans. esteef

Get ready to welcome back Lilja. esteef

Yes I did. It just wasn't specific enough for you to argue against. So now yer just huffing and puffing. esteef

How about let's just do nothing. I mean LA just won the Cup with a s***ty D, let's model ourselves after them. Go back to sleep Kenny. esteef

I wish we still had +'s cuz I would plus this every day for a week. esteef

Any f***in' d-man that's changed teams in the last 3 years. How about that smart-ass? esteef

So because people don't want to turn responding to you into a f***in' project that means you're right? NOT! I agree with harold, Lidstrom and Stuart leaving were not surprises and Holland is now trying to play catch up for all those times he didn't want to "overpay" or felt that he was "happy with our team". esteef

DAMMIT! esteef

I'll boo Parise as loud as I f***in CAN!! esteef

Troof. We didn't get them but at least Pitt and Chicago didn't either. esteef

"I need to ask my wife" Yeah right, more like "I need to talk Suter into not signing with Detroit". JERK!!! esteef

I f***in HATE Parise now. Not for signing in Minny but for taking Suter's ass with him. f*** YOU ZACH!! esteef