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What's the source of this graphic?

The actual Harold Snepts or the Mod? Both options are equally likely.

It's especially bad because the Devil's have one of the coolest jersey/logo designs in the league. They don't need to change a thing.

Well as it stands we might all have sold them short considering they're in a playoff position and we all know the old adage about being in a playoff spot by Thanksgiving. I can very easily see a reality in which we get Vrana back, make a trade or two, and get in.

Here's a really good article on Rossi and why he missed time: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01456-3

It's entirely possible that we got the best three players from each of the last three drafts. Or at least, we got guys that are on par with the best players of each of those drafts. I'm still not convinced that Owen Power is any better than Edvinsson, and I think Edvinsson still has quite a lot of room for improvement too.

Dude I've gotten SOOOOOOO much sh*t over the years for saying anything that even remotely deviated from the conventional narrative. I'm definitely gonna enjoy my time in the sun.

Or maybe guys like Lafreniere were never as good as they were made out to be to begin with? I vaguely recall someone saying something like that before those guys were drafted.

Based on your above post I feel confident that I'm AT LEAST smarter than Tyler Bertuzzi.

Remember that time in the offseason when everyone kept saying we were a lotto team and I kept saying we'd be WAY better and then we were? I'm soooooo smart.

Big Erne making it count when it counts the most. Love it. Hopefully that lights a little fire under him going forward.

Admittedly it's a hard sell, but with Khusnutdinov playing well it's not leaving their cupboards completely bare at center. Plus they'd be getting a center back (Veleno) and another 1st in a center heavy draft. It would all come down to how badly their ownership wants to offset the costs of the Parise and Suter buyouts. They're going to be taking a bath on this for the next 3-4 years and 12 million is a lot of money. Maybe enough money that it makes losing Rossi palatable.

They've wanted to trade him for years, and now with the Parise and Suter buyouts they're going to be desperate to shed money. Clearing 12 million for next season between Dumba and Zuc is incentive enough. Not to mention they've already got a ton of defensive talent on the books. I genuinely believe these deals would benefit all involved. Minnesota gets cap relief they desperately need and a serviceable young roster player with some upside. It will cost them one really good young prospect but they get our 1st (somewhere between 12-16th overall) to make it easier to swallow the pill. As bad as their cap situation is the next few years I think they'd honestly do this without Leddy but I'm adding him to make up for Dumba's lost points. Colorado gets two good players who are under contract for two year to help them win now and it only costs them a player they want to trade anyway. Detroit gets a 2C and top four LD (powerplay QB too) and all it costs us is some cash (6 million for two years), a mid round 1st, and a young depth player with question marks surrounding his upside.

To Minnesota: Leddy, Veleno, 2022 1st Round Pick To Detroit: Dumba, Zuccarello, Marco Rossi THEN: To Colorado: Dumba (50% retained), Zuccarello (50% retained) + 3rd To Det: Samuel Girard Bert-Larkin-Raymond Zadina-Rossi-Vrana Fabbri-Suter-Berggren Erne-Ras-Pearson Edvinssson-Hronek Girardi-Seider Wallinder/Johansson/Buium - Lindstrom Ned/Cossa

I really don't want picks as the center part of these trades though. At a certain point you have to start building and not trading anything that's not nailed down for guys who may or may not be any good 3-4 years down the road (typical timeline for late 1st/2nd round picks). I'd rather we look to established young guys who are on teams that are either A) up against the cap and need to offer better returns for cap relief, or B) too deep to give these guys a bigger role. I think Yzerman likes Larkin, Bert, Fabbri, and (maybe) Vrana and Hronek as the older leadership group on the team. As good as we've played this year I don't see him moving any of these guys. I can envision a world in which we're competing for Cups with the guys mentioned above as our 28-31 year old veteran leaders and Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson, and Cossa are our stud young guns. But we still need to add a center who fits one of the two age groups.

Just a thought I had but, Minnesota is really up against it this year. They're good enough to make the playoffs, and maybe even make splash, but they really can't take on any salary and actually need to shed a bunch of salary by next year because of the Parise and Suter buyouts. So.. To Minn: Leddy (50% retained) To Det: Dumba (No money retained) and Marat Khusnutdinov This should appeal to Minnesota because A) they'll replace Dumba's offense and have 3.5 million more to add another piece should they choose to, B) Moving Dumba (and letting Leddy walk in the offseason) alleviates their cap issues next year by 6 million, C) They'd only be losing their 2nd best center prospect. It should appeal to Detroit because A) We'd get a top end center prospect (Leading the KHL in U20 scoring), and B) We could turn around and flip Dumba for additional pieces this year or next. Edit: Or do the some to Edmonton Edm: Leddy (50% retained) Det: Tyson Barrie + Dylan Holloway

Not that I've seen so far. I do see that DeBrusk has had two pretty bad seasons in a row so you'd have to think the asking price is at an all time low despite his really solid production the three years before that. I don't really know anything about this guy, except that when I look at his highlights I immediately recognize how many of his points come from deflections and rebounds. Seems like he'd be a good get for that alone.

Red Wings are on of many team rumored to be interested in Jake DeBrusk: https://www.thefourthperiod.com/dec-2021/several-teams-interested-in-debrusk#.Yaeq1LpJEfQ.twitter

The only thing you're missing is a reference to Bobby Orr that doesn't make any sense within the context of the discussion. I mean, you're right. But I have my own assh*le grandpa for that.

Was he? I always thought of him as the Grandpa Simpson shaking fist at cloud meme. He was just nonsensically contrarian.

The dumbest comment in all of sports has to be “player/team didn’t want the goal/win tonight”. If you ever find yourself thinking that a professional athlete doesn’t want to win you’re a f*cking dumb dumb.

Lol

Nice pass by Suter, nice finish by Zadina.

If money had a dick Darren McCarty would be the gayest man on earth.

Fabbri with two solid checks in one shift. Wrecking shop son!