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Rogle staved off elimination today on the back of Marco Kasper's 3 pt. game. He'd been relatively quiet during the playoffs but this was a big time performance in an elimination game for Rogle.

I understand your point, but I'm not sure it's as bleak as you're making it seem. Neither Nyquist nor Tatar played in the NHL at 19 years old. He produced roughly as well as they did in their rookie seasons and he was a full 3-4 years younger. I think he's more like Marner (or Kucherov) in his developmental trajectory than he is like Nyquist or Tatar. But as I've already said, he needs to develop his skating and his strength like both of those guys did in order to hit that upper echelon. His skill and hockey sense is already there but right now he's just too easy to defend.

Genuine question, I'm not familiar with Fanatics so what's the problem with this?

I wish we didn't need a top center so bad because I'd love to see the Wings draft Colby Barlow. He's got Tkachuk Bros. vibes and I'm here for it. The thought of Mazur-Kasper-Barlow absolutely tickles my pickle.

When Edvinsson went back to the bench and the trainer was checking him out they were both poking and prodding his hip area. I'm trying to find footage of it now but they showed it on the telecast last night.

Raymond definitely needs to put some work into his body in the offseason. He's small and not especially quick. He needs to work with Rasmussen's skating coach and get some muscle (especially on his lower body). The good news is that both these things tend to get better as guys mature. Right now those are the only two things holding him back.

He didn’t get hit in the knee, it was his upper thigh/hip area that took the impact on that play.

Edvinsson looked awesome yesterday. He makes defensive stops all over the ice and he’s definitely not shy about jumping into the offensive zone. He’s acquitted himself well so far at the NHL level. Can’t wait to see how he looks next season.

Not much of a game, but Edvinsson looks really solid defensively.

I wouldn't hate this as long as we nabbed a center with upside with the 2nd first rounder. Someone like Riley Heidt or Calum Ritchie. Another option is to take a center with the top pick and RHD Alex Sandin-Pellikka with the later pick.

I'm not buying that. Teams (including the Red Wings) get offensively competent players in the 2nd and 3rd rounds all the time. Irrespective of when he was drafted it's not unreasonable to expect Zadina to be sorta good at the thing he was drafted to be good at. When Veleno was drafted his offensive upside was limited and his defensive game had some higher ceiling. Not surprisingly that's what he looks like today and nobody is bothered too much by his lack of offense. Berggren was a high offense/low defense player at the draft and not surprisingly nobody criticizes him for sucking at defense now. Zadina is not a good defensive player. His defensive metrics are amongst the worst on the team the last two years. But nobody cares about that, and shouldn't, because he wasn't drafted for his defensive profile. He was drafted because he could (supposedly) score...which he obviously can't. You seem to be suggesting that he's some Darren Helm type bottom six checking winger - which he's definitely not - but even if he was nobody should be happy getting a 4th line winger in the 2nd round when you can basically get them for league minimum in UFA. Take a look at Alex Chiasson.

Zadina just missed the net on a breakaway. Unreal.

I can't speak about "gamers", but a number of teams have nights designated for specific races and ethnicities as part of the very same "hockey is for everyone" initiative that sponsors "pride night". Dallas just had "Noche Mexicana" a week or so ago, and Chicago celebrated "black history night" about three weeks ago...complete with specially designed sweaters. As far as I know none of the players chose not to participate in those promotions...likely because the religious institutions to which they pledge their allegiance don't designated black or hispanic people as sinners...anymore.

I knew what you meant, but I'm not sure you know what I mean. Pride night/parades/parties/initiatives/etc. aren't aimed at "changing anyone's minds". They're not for people that steadfastly believe homosexuality is a sin. They're for everyone else. It's about recognizing that these people exist, that they're members of our communities, that they're welcome and supported...because historically they haven't been. Nobody gives a sh*t about some fan sitting at home on pride night raging against the "LGBTQ Agenda" or whatever.

It's probably quite a lot of guys TBH. Athletes aren't notoriously "progressive" people.