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I explained the legal difference as best as I could. That wasn't good enough for you. Then you said I was "stupid or nuts", at which point it became necessary to remind you (and everyone else) that only one of us actually knows what he's talking about. One of us has a law degree and a career interpreting the law for the federal government, and the other guy is you. If the Michigan militia seizes infrastructure and form their own autonomous state (like the Oregon ranchers did) they will be charged with quite a few crimes, but sedition won't be one of them because...wait for it...they didn't commit the crime of sedition. Many of the Capital rioters likely did based on the evidence available. Wanna know how I know it was more than "a few hundred rioters" who stormed the Capital? Because 550 people have been charged with crimes related to the incident. So unless every single person at the Capital that day has been arrested and charged (they haven't) you can bet the number was a good deal greater than "a few hundred".

It's not an appeal to authority. I AM an authority. I'm falling back on my expertise, something you definitely don't have. But again, keep saying it and maybe it will be true. I wish you conservatives would just stick to sports.

Yep, it's totally that and not that you have no idea how the law is interpreted. Wanna know the difference between you and me as it pertains to this? I get paid by the United States Congress to interpret the law, and you're an opinionated guy on the internet. Get wrekt dork.

Legally it isn't, no matter how many times you say so.

Sweet google search bro. I bet you're awesome with WebMD as well. Sedition is a federal crime. For jurisdictional purposes federal laws are also enshrined in states' legal codes. This is so that revolutionary dipsh*ts arrested by the DC metro police (for example) can legally be held until they're transferred to federal authorities. So, for the second time, a person cannot be guilty of sedition against the state of Washington or city of Minneapolis. Why does this matter? Because it would be pretty hard to make the case that Antifa jackoffs occupying city blocks in Washington were trying to "prevent, by force or intimidation, the execution of the statute of the state". However, it IS NOT hard to make that case as it pertains to MAGA dipsh*ts storming the US Capital building to stop the validation of a federal election. Especially when so many of them livestreamed and/or made facebook posts saying they were taking part in a revolution or other words to that affect. Fortunately for the country, and not for MAGA dummies, you don't have to be convinced that the Jan. 6th riot was a legally worse infraction. A federal judge and grand jury in the District of Columbia need to be convinced. And take a wild guess what all those people were doing on Jan. 6th? Hint: they weren't watching the attacks on TV. Edit: You're trying to make the case that Antifa occupations are analogous to the Capital riots, when in reality they're analogous to when those Oregon ranchers occupied federal lands in 2016 and declared themselves sovereign citizens. All of which are illegal, but only one is sedition.

Your efforts to create a false equivalence are admirable but misguided. As I've repeatedly said, under existing law one of those two things is worse than the other. It's not my opinion, it's the legal code. A person who burns down a government building is guilty of arson. A person who burns down a government building because they want to start a revolution is guilty of arson AND sedition (which is what many of the Jan. 6th conspirators have been charged with). There is no such crime as sedition against the state of Washington or the city of Minneapolis. Only against the United States. Hence why, legally, Jan. 6th was worse. But something tells me that you're probably not willing to be convinced no matter how much I educate you on how the law actually works.

Of course I'm biased. I think MAGA f*ckwads are the worst. But that's not really the point. Crimes directed at the State, involving attempts to interrupt or otherwise subvert the functioning of our government are worse. Like, literally worse. As defined by law. You're acting like Jan. 6th wasn't serious because it was largely unsuccessful and because feckless dips***s participated in it. But that's missing the bigger picture. The ENTIRE reason they were at the Capital was to interrupt the process of government. No it wasn't a successful military coup or something. But it was DEFINITELY an attempt to obstruct the validation of a democratically held election because they didn't like the results of that election. That, by definition, is an attack on the State.

Nope. Don't agree. There are different degrees of criminality. Supporting rioters is wrong. Supporting rioters who are trying to interrupt the peaceful transfer of governance is worse. Both are bad but there's a difference of degree here. Let's not sugar coat what happened on July 6th. Those people weren't rioting because the cops killed an innocent black guy (again!). They were rioting because they didn't want Congress to certify the results of an election because their guy lost. Those are NOT the same thing.

I'm not a Lib, so I don't speak for them. However, I would say that most Libs I know DO support BLM or Antifa. That's the point I'm making. MAGA folks claim to respect the cops when it's a convenient argument to beat the Libs with, but we all saw (in person or on national tv) how much they respect cops when it mattered. Libs don't say they support BLM one day and then join a mob and beat black guys with flag poles the next. And if some Lib DID do that the rest of them would probably brand him a racist and ostracize him. As far as keeping cops accountable, there are SO many ways to do it. Here's a couple. You could require licensure like nurses have. Lose your license for being a dips*** and you don't get to be a cop anymore. Nurses CONSTANTLY think about the consequences of their actions because they don't want to lose their license. Second, you could have a separate criminal justice system for armed police like we do for the military. They hide behind "our job isn't like any other jobs". Okay, well now you've got your own unique set of consequences (which are more strict). Third, you could require all cops to do equipment checks before and after their shift (like the military). You don't get paid until your camera is on and functional. It's not hard... Know why we don't have these types of measures? Because police unions fight TOOTH AND NAIL to make sure cops AREN'T held accountable, that's why. There isn't some internal fight in police stations between good and bad cops. ALL COPS want to do whatever they want with minimal oversight. It's pretty much exactly what you described in your first post about having a gun and power.

I live in DC and work blocks from the Capital. If you think it was "a few hundred rioters" you're on crack. But I'm not surprised you'd bend reality to fit a political narrative. Your people literally thrive on it.

Out of the 10-12 bottom feeder teams last season I think we probably improved the most. The teams with better records (Chicago, Calgary, Arizona, Ottawa, Los Angeles) were only barely better points wise and none of them (other than maybe Los Angeles) has improved significantly this offseason. Plus Seattle is going to totally suck. I'm guessing we're going to land somewhere around 12-15 in the standings.

I think Raymond and Berggren are both on the team after the deadline (provided they're playing well) because I think at least two of Fabbri, Namestnikov, or Bertuzzi are traded by then.

Totally agree, I definitely think we're a genuinely better team this season. But I also think we were really playing good to close out last season. Pair those things with the fact that a normal schedule means more games against inferior opponents and I think we're in line for a pretty big step up in the "wins" column.

LOL, so cops killing unarmed/innocent people isn't a problem because the media reports on it? I realize that you MAGA weirdos tie yourselves in knots trying to figure out how the media is to blame for everything, but even you have to admit that when the cops murder a guy for passing a counterfeit $20 bill it's fairly newsworthy right? Or should the media just stick to sports? Edit: Also, don't half of you support the same group that stormed the Capital and beat a bunch of cops half to death? I love you pretend to care about cops (when you wanna own the Libs) but then you also don't seem to give a damn about them when your own angry mob tries to murder them. Hypocrites. At least I hate cops all the time. Here's how much conservatives think "blues lives matter"... https://images.app.goo.gl/pPC7heQc9zymDgL57

I'm always insanely pumped for the beginning of the season, but perhaps even more this year. I genuinely think this year we legitimately turn the corner. Aside from all the dead weight we got rid of, we are adding two top four defensemen and two top six forwards. Plus a full season of Vrana (and I maintain he's a considerable improvement over Mantha). AND I think by the end of last season Rasmussen and Zadina were really playing good. I'm super optimistic about this team.

The Mantha Trade: The gift that keeps on giving.

Agreed, I don't see any scenario in which NYR wins a Cup without BOTH Eichel and Zibinejad. And I don't really see why Buffalo would want him in return considering they're inevitably just going to have to trade him for a late 1st anyway. Seems to me that NYR 1st and Kakko are the real center pieces of a trade between those two teams and I think Raymond plus Detroit's 1st is a better starting point considering our pick will be higher and Raymond is just as good as Kakko.

The Sabres' starting ask is reportedly 4 assets equivalent to 1st round talent. Assuming that they'll eventually come down a bit, would any of you do this: To Detroit: Eichel To Buffalo: Veleno, Raymond, 2022 1st (top two protected).

Spoiler Alert! It was murder. They literally got away with murder. F*ck those scumbags.

Criminals, by virtue of being criminals, are under no obligation to follow the law and serve the public. Cops are, and too often don't. They're supposed to do the dangerous job they signed up for AND not be corrupt, authoritarian, sadists. It's not an either/or proposition. Lots of Americans have dangerous jobs. Only cops seem to get a free pass to be murdering psychos because of it.

Thank god for cellphones. Everybody knows their body cameras always just happen to stop working right before they kill a black guy while he's handcuffed.

Ken Holland signing Brendan Perlini lol. How has everyone not realized this guy blows yet?

I don't buy it. War stories are like fishing stories.