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Look, Mantha sorta does have a pulse.

He just blew by Larkin on the celly but then realized Larkin did all the work so he went back in for the hug haha. You love to see it. Really though, I like Brome. He’s a gritty little bastard and he scored there because he’s not afraid to play in the hard areas.

They're just throwing good money after bad. They have a convoluted system that makes no sense, and then to fix the idiocy of this convoluted system, they made it MORE convoluted. You don't need tanking protection. Teams that suck every single year and therefore drafted really high year after year are terrible despite having Hall, RNH, McDavid, Eichel, Dahlin, etc. It's not like they're gaining some advantage. They still suck because their organizations are trash.

Is there another pro sports league that has this much of an issue with the draft. This really shouldn't be too hard, just draft in reverse order.

I always get a kick out of the people who say they're not interested in these types of deals. Most don't work out, but that's not the point. There's zero risk and the history of the NHL is littered with undrafted guys, over-agers, and free agent euros who make this type of gamble worth while. Datsyuk was an over-ager when he was drafted. Martin St. Louis was undrafted. Panarin was a free agent euro. If I were a GM I'd take a swing on these guys every year. It only takes one Mark Giordano to make the effort worth it regardless of how many other guys wash out.

Sign Gallant, draft Beniers. If Beniers is off the board draft Johnson. If he's off the board draft Power/Hughes. If they're off the board draft Raty/Eklund. I kinda love the idea of hiring the coach with the fastest, most relentlessly offensive, in-your-face, system of hockey to coach a top top six featuring Larkin, Beniers, Raymond, Zadina, and Bert. Also, maybe trade Mantha because he's a big puss.

To paraphrase what I said to Neo above, people saying things on the internet IS NOT representative of anything at all. A handful of years ago there was a pretty "widespread effort" to vote John Scott into the All-Star game. That should not be taken as evidence that hockey fans suddenly had a newfound respect for John Scott's skill. It does, however, indicate that boredom and anonymity are a deadly combination that often lead (otherwise reasonable) people to say stupid/do stupid s***. Tony DeAngelo is not the victim of some left-wing mob cancel-culturing him out of a job. He's a victim of the fact that he's an obnoxious assh*le who doesn't seem to know the value of occasionally ingratiating yourself to others (i.e. being polite irrespective or your actual feelings).

I'm fully aware that people are discriminated against for their political opinions all the time. But that wasn't the case with Tony DeAngelo. You keep trying to make a case that isn't there. He was the first one to come out and acknowledge that none of this had anything to do with his right-wing views. Not a single bad thing happened to Tony DeAngelo because he's right-wing, despite how hard you're trying to paint him as a victim. Some (internet) people, sometimes, discriminating against some people for their political views is NOT evidence that Tony DeAngelo was discriminated against for his. He has consistently been his own worst enemy, despite his political views, and it's pathetic that you're trying to turn this into a part of your crusade against #Libs/Media/CancelCulture. The internet is a false reality. There are a few thousand people on the internet that think the world is run by lizard people. That DOES NOT mean that lizard people ideology is mainstream or pervasive. Similarly, just because some fans think DeAngelo is a dick because he's right-wing DOES NOT mean that he's suffered ANY negative effects from his right-views. His repuation (which you're weirdly worried about) wasn't tarnished. On the contrary, pretty much everyone (from his teammates to the team that just waived him) came to his defense against the fallacious rumor.

Were you not paying attention when like half of the Washington Capitals team skirted COVID protocols because they wanted to hang out in each other's hotel rooms and ended up infecting their teammates?

No s***. I brought up Kane in an effort to show that irrespective of your "opinions", when you act like an prick you tend to have trouble with NHL teams. You're trying to make it seem like DeAngelo was waived because of his "opinions" and not because he's an egregious d*ck who alienates teammates, coaches, refs, and fans alike. As far as racist accusations, he was accused by ONE blogger, who was immediately rebuffed by basically everyone in the know including the black teammate in question, the NYR management and coaching staff, former teammates, and Deangelo himself. You're insinuating there was this widespread effort to falsely paint DeAngelo as a racist, presumably because he's a right winger, and that simply didn't happen. DeAngelo wasn't waived, told to stop tweeting, etc., because he has right-wing opinions. He has told to stop tweeting and waived because he's an assh*le. You're just conflating the two because you're constantly trying to advance this narrative that right-wingers are being victimized by the libs, or the media, or cancel culture or whomever. Stick to hockey. See. You're the one that insinuated that DeAngelo was falsely being accused of racism than that his reputation was tarnished by it. See the above.

Yeah, IDK either. But like I said before, I think that first and foremost this is a hockey decision. DeAngelo just isn't good enough to be this big of a pain in the ass. He definitely could help himself by shutting the f*ck up. But in lieu of that, he could just play defense a little bit and nobody would care what he says or does off the ice. It's much harder to ignore him b.s. when he's got one point, and is -6, in six games to start the season. He'll get another job, for sure, but if he washes out after that then his career will be done.

Every single team in the NHL gives every one of their players media training, and are willing/able to punish players who do not abide by their media code of conduct. The Rangers and Deangelo are no different. Again, he was not being discriminated against based on his political opinions. Remember when Dylan Larkin said (during an interview) that he'd rather have time off instead of play in the all-star game? And then, about 24 hours later, he apologized to the sport, league, and team and anyone else he could think of in another interview? Why do you suppose he did that? Because behind the scenes someone said "don't f*cking say s*** like that to the media". And he learned. Deangelo's problem is that incidents with him being a prick are pretty much a reoccuring thing. If he's not pissing of teammates or coaches then he's pissing off the front office types. And he's not good enough to justify the headache. This is the same reason Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a job. He's not a good enough football player to justify the headache most organizations will have to deal with if they give him a job. If Deangelo were Victor Hedman he could say whatever the hell he wanted to say.

How to you not just absolutely LOVE that guy? And Pierre, god love him, always got s*** on because of how he looked. But he was actually a great announcer. He had so much to say that he typically couldn't shut up, which I loved. If he looked like Darian Hatcher nobody would say a word about him. The worst announcers are ex-players because (being dumb athletes) they speak/think in tired old cliches. "Gotta love Mantha, he's a big body, big stick, takes the goalie's eyes away on every shift" - Larry Murphy. Puke. I don't care about that. Know what I care about? Whether or not Patrice Bergeron's brother's one-timer caromed off the glass in the 96' Quebec senior league championships in Laval. Sign me up for Doc and Pierre.

DRIIIIIIIIIVE!!!!!!

I know you'll trip over yourself to make the case that some right-winger is being mistreated but it's simply not the case here. Everyone in the know, including Deangelo, has said they don't believe that his political/social beliefs had anything to do with it. So just stop. Deangelo was waived because he's a prick. Staal said that despite being a good guy, Deangelo goes over the line yelling at coaches and refs. We all know that Deangelo smarted off to a young goalie who just made a critical mistake (costing his team the game) and got punched for it. You're not going to get far in the NHL if you alienate teammates, coaches, and refs. This is EXACTLY the same problem that Evander Kane has, and he's fairly left-wing. Yet you're not out here making up false narratives about how Kane is being "mislabeled" or whatever.

Man, I liked Doc Emrick and Pierre.

Gotta say I like Mike Tirico calling hockey games.

Neither are good offensively, but they’re both really good at gaining possession and advancing the puck

I’m a big Jon Merrill fan, and only partially because of his bitchin’ mullet/mustache combo.

Can anyone tell me what...the hell...Green Day has to do with hockey?

I don't really understand Cholowski. He's reasonably big, really fast, has good offensive instincts, and doesn't seem to be as stupid as most pro athletes. I don't get why he's not in the NHL. I get that he's not Seider defensively, but you'd have to think he'd be able to manage that side of the game well enough to be a bottom pair d-man in the NHL.

I'd probably stay away from him, but maybe I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I suppose it comes down to what NYR wants for him. I'd hate to lose a decent prospect (like we did with Regula for Perlini) only to have Tony D wash out. However you're right, maybe this is all completely overblown (as Staal indicates) and he's a prime reclamation project. If they trade for him and shelter him on the 3rd pair I'm not gonna throw fits or anything but we already get pinned into our zone a lot. Going to be WAY worse with him on the ice. Worth noting that when talking about Cholowski a few weeks ago Blashill said (I'm paraphrasing) "we want him to be an ELITE powerplay quarterback. His offense needs to make up for his defensive lapses". That pretty much describes Deangelo FWIW.

Apparently playing the most minutes on the team, and being tied for the team lead (with Larkin and Mantha) in points as a defenseman is "disappointing"? Nah. Find another whipping boy. Hronek is FAR from a problem.

I completely agree with the bolded. I'm typically very happy after these games, even when they lose. For a few years people kept saying that they were a team that didn't have the horses, but they played like a team that didn't have a clue. NOW we look like a competent hockey team...that just doesn't have the horses. Except for the powerplay. Holy hell that powerplay is shameful. I have no idea how they can't scrape together ONE decent powerplay unit out of Larkin, Mantha, Hronek, Rabbri, Ryan, Gagner, Bert, Zadina. Any five of those guys should be able to score...sometimes?

I would give anything if Detroit had another halfway decent center. I have no idea why this isn't a burning issue for them considering we've been looking for a 2C since signing Stephen Weiss.