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Yeah but what about his intangibles? If being a hockey fan has taught me anything it's that (when convenient) stats don't mean "everything" and the ol' eyeball test is your best guide. Murray has his name on two Stanley Cups and learned under the tutelage of future hall of famer Marc Andre Fleury. Can your stupid spreadsheet monetize that?

I'm confused, is Bernier good or not? Because half of LGW was adamantly opposed to trading him at the deadline because he was so good and now a bunch of other people are saying we need good goaltending.

That's all well and good. And if dudes like Sterling wanna take part in that then more power to them, but they shouldn't sign business agreements saying they WON'T do that kind of s*** then. If you and I both owned franchises in an Italian restaurant, and you signed an agreement saying you won't do anything that makes the franchise look bad, and then the literal prostitute you were cheating on your wife with recorded you talking mad s*** about Italian people, you wouldn't be some kind of victim if I used the agreement we signed to take your business.

You're f*cking delusional. He "lost" his franchise after he gave his wife permission to sell it, given that she was the co-owner. And he did that because 3/4 of the other owners voted to remove him for violating the morality clause he signed; a process he agreed to upon buying the team in the first place. Why did 3/4 agree that he should go? Because it's bad for the NBA (a league that predominantly markets to black people) when one of their largest market teams is owned by a (now very public) racist. You act like a bunch of internet trolls stole his team from him. That didn't happen. Also, his name is DONALD. Next time you wanna make a martyr case out of someone you should probably get their name right, otherwise it looks like you're just bullsh*tting your way through your victim plea. Edit: Here's a good article about how Sterling "lost" his team by violating a number of different contracts he agreed to. Again, I'm a free marketer, if he agreed to a contract he should honor it. If he's desperate to be a racist instead, he should probably not have bought that team and signed those agreements. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-nba-will-argue-donald-sterling-violated-contracts/

As I've already said, the Caps care about their brand. If his "private" conversation had stayed "private" they wouldn't care. But the minute their logo was plastered all over every story containing references to their employees doing coke and making fun of "fat sluts" they cared. Why? Because it makes them look bad. The thing I don't understand is why all you right wingers are giddy whenever faceless, right wing, internet s***bags make a big deal about an all female cast of Ghostbusters or whatever, but act like the sky is falling whenever faceless, left wing, internet s***bags do the same thing to some other unethical s***head? All fair play right?

Again, he didn't lose his job for being an asshat. He lost his job for making his boss/company look bad. A point you've already agreed with. Not a single person "canceled" him out of his job.

Ok, just wanted to make sure. Because for a second it seemed like you were suggesting that when Social Justice Warriors use public scrutiny to enforce their preferred social norms it was "Orwellian" but when you advocate for using public scrutiny to enforce your preferred social norms it was legitimately charitable.

So just to be clear, it's okay (and even quite good and beneficial) to shame people for being fat but it's too much to shame people for being coked up d*ckheads? Not sure that's how public scrutiny works. And you're very clearly not against the idea of using public scrutiny to straighten people out.

That's sorta my point. We live in a country that doesn't educate anybody on anything important, such as civil liberties. As a result many people in the public don't know what is or is not "private". Or even what "private" means really. Also, he didn't lose his job for what he said in "private". He lost his job because branding matters to people that own multi-million dollar businesses. I'm positive that Ted Leonsis (owner of the Caps) is not thrilled with the fact that every single one of the zillion new stories and articles written about Leipsic being a coked up ******* also show a picture of him in a Capitals uniform and contain the words "Washington" and "Capitals" somewhere therein. If I ran a company and you worked for me and a video of you (in my company's tshirt) doing coke and calling women fat went viral I'd fire you too. Not because you're an *******, but because you're making me look like one too.

Except that the courts have routinely ruled that the internet is a public, not private, space. Regardless of whether or not your app is password protected it's still a public app. Your device is private, the messages on instagram/other social media aren't. Hence why most social media sites have been using the phrase "direct message" as opposed to "private chat" or the like.

He wasn't "hacked". The messages were released via screenshots. Someone with access to the convo leaked them. At least that's what FOX News is reporting anyway. https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nhl-condemns-capitals-brendan-leipsic-after-leaked-screenshots-reveal-misogynistic-messages In other words, the things I said last night to my gf at dinner are "private". If she then goes and tweets what I said, or tells a reporter what I said and he writes a story about it, then they become public. That's exactly what happened here. But even the notion of "private" is an entirely legal one. Things I used to do in my old apartment are private in the sense that you'd need a warrant to bust in and arrest me for them, but ask the neighbors on the other side of the paper thin walls how "private" my actions were.

I suppose, though I've never really been convinced that hockey players punching each other has any affect whatsoever. I think they're all pretty used to it by the time they get to the NHL. As is often the case with egregiously sh*tty people, just being exposed for what you are is likely a worse punishment. I imagine he probably feels pretty horrid right about now.

So much to unpack on the Brendan Leipsic saga: 1. Free speech only means that (most of) your speech is protected from LEGAL consequences. It doesn't mean that the things you say won't have ANY consequences. 2. Be mad at the person who leaked the conversations, not all the people that read them publicly afterward and called him a douchebag for saying douchebaggy stuff. 3. Hey millenials, group chats through an online app are not "private". 4. I'm a free market guy, an employee making their employer/company look bad through negligence can be a fireable offense. It's always been that way and should be. 5. Funny that all you guys who were worried about Jimmy Howard's weight affecting his play/health don't seem to have the same concerns when it comes to Leipsic's cocaine use. It's almost like you're all full of sh*t.

I stopped reading part way through. I'm sure you did a really good job of creatively hanging on on my every word though.

Be smarter and better looking that pretty much everyone else.

You have no idea. I sit around seething all day everyday because of the interactions I have on LGW. You guys are all that important to me. Just kidding. When I'm not here trolling you guys I'm banging my super hot girlfriend and/or making a bunch of money.

Fitting that I'd be in the lead to "sacrifice to the hockey gods for the 1st overall pick" since most of you tards would use it on Lafreniere and set the rebuild back, thus vindicating me.

I'd deflect all the time too if I routinely put out hot takes like this.... https://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2016/2/16/11007274/why-brendan-smith-is-really-that-damn-good

There's this whole legion of snarky hockey personalities that I find distasteful in their passive aggression. Him, Dimitri Filipovic, Pryshanth Iyer, the guys at wingingitinmotown. It's not that they don't know hockey, they're more knowledgable than most fans I suppose. It's that they basically insert internet culture into sports, which is kinda gross to me. Jay and Dan are genuinely funny guys, but their humor resides in their creativity and silliness. Guys like Wysh substitute cynicism and condescension for humor. He's basically David Spade...whom I can't stand.

Cholowski can actually score. So probably not. Brendan Smith was an "offensive" defenseman who never put up any offense. God he sucked. On any other team Cholowski would have played on the third pair last year, been sheltered, and eased into his role and nobody would be saying anything about him. Sure he's got things to work on. All young defensemen do. But on this team he's competing with about 47 veteran defenseman, all of whom make a ton of money, none of whom you want sitting on the bench for 3 or 4 million dollars a year. So Cholowski sat. No biggie. Also, a new coach will help. Blash, like Babs before him, is soooooooooooooooo risk averse. I've heard many, many, many other coaches talk about how they don't mind if players make mistakes as long as they're A) trying to make a play, and B) don't keep making the same mistakes. If you're a young player for the Wings you just don't have that same degree of leeway.

I actually get it. I mean, anytime something is too omnipresent it generally puts me off. And the Wings were that through the 90s and 2000s. Like, I still have never seen the movie Avatar because about 10,000 people all told me to watch it about 30 seconds after it came out. I don't like Wyshynski, he's a s***head. But he's not a "reporter". He's a content producer. He's more like the guys and gals at Barstool than he is like Bob McKenzie. So the fact that he plays a character isn't really a thing for me. It's that he plays THIS particular character. Listening to a 40+ year old speak like 20 year olds on the internet makes me puke. Everytime Greg says something is "fire" or "on fleek" or that it gives him "all the feels" I'm immediately reminded of why he sucks. That said, the Yahoo NHL Obituaries idea of his was solid gold. So he's had a few wins in his day.

100% yes, but with all the same caveats that everyone else has. Ottawa doesn't do it. Trading back one spot almost never happens for obvious reasons. Usually you have to move back a couple spots so that one team can leapfrog two others. That said, I'd still entertain this trade if we had the 2nd pick and wanted to trade it to whomever had the 4th plus their 2nd rounder.

I definitely have made improper jokes. But I don't STILL make improper jokes. And as I've already said, at least in this one respect, I AM a better person than you.

Ohhhh s***, I didn't realize that Jimmy Howard was cut by the Red Wings because he's overweight. That changes everything. Clearly Jimmy got heavy, lost his job, and you're just commenting on that turn of events. See, all this time I thought Jimmy Howard had ALWAYS been a heavier guy by NHL standards and yet he's had a nice long 13 year career (including being named to the all-rookie team and a two time all-star). Thus proving your tepid, post hoc, "he's heavy therefore he's no good" theory even more invalid than every other thing you've said. About how many posts of you looking stupid and/or wrong is it going to take before you wake up to the fact that indefensible positions (like making fun of overweight people) are indefensible? See, the problem for guys like you is that in addition to being weak, unethical, cowards, you're also stupid. And guys like me aren't.

Larkin's corsi/for is 50.2%. That's ranks 288th in the league amongst players who played at least 30 games this year. Should I check his fenwick too or do you just wanna acknowledge that his "advanced stats" aren't as "outstanding" as you probably think?