kipwinger

Yes indeed, what an ego maniac I am for not thinking it's funny to make a joke of overweight people. And you're right, it's just me being an "internet warrior". In real like I totally make fun of overweight people behind their backs and then triple down on doing so via the anonymity of the internet. Yep, that's definitely me.

First of all, it's laughable to think that you're accusing me of "shaming" anyone when this entire conversation is built on the premise that I don't like when dingbats like you shame overweight people. And THAT fact does, at least in this one respect, make me morally superior to you. Secondly, you've made it clear that behind closed doors, protected by the anonymity of the your home and/or avatar, you're unapologetically unethical. I haven't missed that point. I am, however, going to continue to point out that you're a sh*tbag for it. Because in addition to the fact that you think "being overweight is funny...durrr" you also are a weasel for hiding it. So continue to pat yourself on the back buddy. You truly are exemplary.

And you kinda also said "get rid of the fatties" by "shaming then". So you were kinda, sorta, being a d*ck too. And that's the part I'm responding to. Again, if you wanted to have a frank discussion about whether Jimmy's fitness is impacting his play you'd have kinda left that other part out wouldn't you? Why not just own the fact that you're the type of dude who thinking clowning overweight people on the internet anonymously is pretty funny? At least you wouldn't be speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

You're right. Context does matter. Some people think it's okay to do unethical things in private, just not in public, and that's somehow better. It also has the added bonus of allowing them to hide the fact that they're being a sh*tty person. The context totally matters in this case because as long as nobody SEES you being bad then you can pretend you aren't. Imagine if overweight people (for instance) could hide their imperfections. I know. And then that conversation evolved into people talking about "reviling" fat people and other such things. But YOU started it by emphasized the weight thing, and not the poor hockey thing, when you said something about "shaming fatties". If you'd just said "Jimmy Howard sucks and I think it's because he's not in good shape" we wouldn't be having this conversation. Now you're backtracking to make it seem like this was all about his play and not about you getting in a funny zinger about "fatties". Again, say whatever you want. It's a free country. But every time you say something like that I'll call you on it.

Which advanced stats would those be?

You weren't poking fun at their job. You were poking fun at their weight. What difference does their employer make? Do what you want, it's a free country. I just think clowning overweight people is a p*ssy move that most of you would never do it real life. I'm fine with that. At least I'm a self-righteous asshat who thinks clowning overweight people is generally a bad, not good, thing.

Larkin and Zetterberg are really only similar in that they're both really tenacious. Z was a MUCH better offensive player, stud defensive forward, and his success was largely driven by his attention to detail, relentless two-way effort, and high hockey IQ. Larkin on the other hand, is fast.

I'm the only one calling out his post, and defending the "fatties" here. So it was definitely directed at me, despite how mealy mouthed you're being about it now. And no, none of that qualifies you as a tough guy. It should, however, give you a little perspective. First, because right wing internet douchebags (when they're not finger pointing "snowflakes") would trip over themselves to call you a "cuck" for your marital situation. Secondly, because being a health care professional should generally give you a more nuanced understanding of health, and obesity, and preclude you from back slapping idiots who wanna pick on "fatties". Finally, being a soldier doesn't make me any more of a man than you or anybody else. But it definitely means I'm not some "snowflake" with delicate sensibilities just because I think bullying overweight people is a b*tch move.

Totally agree. You're definitely a huge dick.

It's odd, nobody thought I was a "snowflake" during my tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. What are your tough guy credentials again?

Overplayed your hand on that one. With a little more subtlety you could have strung me along a bit.

I did use Byfuglien yesterday when this all started. Catch up.

Pro athletes don't make money for being in shape. They make money for being good at their sport. And Jimmy has been a good goalie for a long time. Making fun of overweight people is low hanging fruit. It's easy and stupid. And it's disingenuous to pretend like you're being an ******* about it "for their own health". You don't give a s*** about them. They're just an easy scapegoat. It's about as lowbrow as you can get. Which is fine for dumbf*cks, but you should probably hold yourself to a higher standard. Kid 1: My mom fought in Afghanistan! Kid 2: My dad was an ICU nurse during the COVID pandemic! Kid 3: My dad got into an argument on the internet with a guy who was defending fat people! Though I'm sure he'll be a chip off the old block. He'll be punching weaker kids and laughing at ugly girls before you know it.

What a hero. I bet your newborn will be really proud when he/she hears this story one day.

Then I'd suggest you butt out next time. We're only talking right now because you engaged me. I wasn't beating down your door for to have this discussion.

I'm not mad at all. I just don't understand why people think they can say d*ckheaded s*** online and in response everyone else should "relax" and not treat them like a d*ckhead. I say d*ckheaded s*** all the time on here, specifically to two or three people in particular. I don't expect them to "relax" and take it easy when I do. I expect them to treat me like an assh*le. They do. No big deal. I'm all for people being trolls, but the whole point of trolling is to get a rise out of people, so you can't throw your hands up and whine when you do exactly what you intended to do.

If that's the case you're both p*ssies. Him for being able to say quasi-inflamatory s*** but not willing to take some in return and you for parachuting in and telling me to "relax" because I'm obviously playing too rough with the other kids. Look, I just made a funny.

I'm not perfect either, which is why I don't say things like "get rid of the fatties by shaming them". But to each their own I guess. I'm just making a point that the people who so vociferously defend their right to be gigantic dicks to other people probably don't open themselves up to the same kind of scrutiny.

I assume, based on how everyone talks about here, that 90% of LGW can too. Plus we all have movie star good looks.

I mean sure, who has a six pack? But you've probably got some big shoulders on ya right? As often as you bench I'm sure your pecs are pretty huge? Arms? Curls for the girls amirite? I guess what I'm saying is that I'm sure you're super manly given how easy it is for you to say things like "shame the fatties". So show us those guns man? Prove you're not some flaccid little pud so we can definitely not body shame you.

https://thehockeywriters.com/7-biggest-nhl-players/ Fun article about "fat" NHLers. You'll notice all these guys are total puds. Why don't you post a body pic? I'd love to see how ripped up you are.

There was a whole big bro/little bro dynamic between those two. Helm dressed as Bert for the Red Wings annual Halloween party if I recall correctly. So not surprised that Helm immortalized it on his body in ink. Athletes, after all, are pretty dumb.

Not like this smokeshow. Bernier, number one in the net, and number one on our top ten lists, amirite? Just out of curiousity, which other players do you guys think are hot enough to be really good? Edit: Bernier's tattoos look like every Ed Hardy tshirt smashed into one. These are the worst sports tats I've seen in years.

Don't know the answer to either of those questions. In general it's probably WAY too early to know what kind of draft class 2021 will be considering there's always so much movement within the season. Guys fall, or rise, considerably and change the outlook at the top of the draft every year. I think a couple of years ago Jesperi Kotkaniemi was ranked 28th or something going into his draft year and was picked 3rd overall when it was said and done. As far as the lotto goes, I think it will largely be a standard format but with an expanded playoff pool there may be a few tweaks. Bubble teams will want to make the playoffs because A) they'll need the revenue with a truncated season and B) they've already spent assets at the deadline gearing up for a playoff push. With that said, the league isn't going to give some teams a shot at the Cup AND a draft lottery spot. So I think they'll expand the playoffs to include play-in games for a few bubble teams. The losers of the play-ins will be put in lottery so the odds will stay the same and the winners will get the regular pick based on how they do in the playoffs.

He'd definitely be one of the top line wingers, but I'm just not sure what our centers will look like by then. I genuinely don't think the Wings are content to go forward with Larkin, Veleno, Rasmussen as their centers of the future. If they are then we're in real trouble. If I'm right then they'd have to draft a center in the next year or so and I presume that's who Lafreniere would slot in with after a few years time.