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I'm pumped about this development. Assuming we do no worse than 4th, we're basically getting one of Byfield, Stutzle, or Rossi to be our future 2C. Rossi just burst into TSN's Top 5 and is outscoring Lafreniere in the CHL and has been described as a highjlight reel offensive player.

The Athletic has him on their trade board because NY is stacked on defense, they need help up front, and he's a completely disaster defensively. Like, really bad. Which is why I think something like AA and a higher end pick gets it done. Keep in mind, Jacob Trouba was traded to NY for a middle pair defenseman (Neal Pionk) and a first round pick and Trouba is pretty easily a better all around defenseman. So I'd say the price is pretty close.

Assuming we don't draft in the top two, I'm all aboard the Stutzle bandwagon. Kid's got offensive skill, has decent enough size (and will grow), is torching a men's league (that is better than I thought it was a year ago), and could play in the AHL next year. Slam dunk.

AA and the lesser of our two 2nd rounders for Tony DeAngelo. Nuff said. Then draft Stutzle at 4th (being conservative with my expectations). Bert-Lark-Mantha Veleno-Stutzle-Zadina Fabbri-Ras-Berggren McIsaac-Seider Cholo-Hronek DK-DeAngelo

Watched all the games. Facts are facts bud. Canada's leadership group is woefully underprepared for this tournament. They have absolutely sucked. They aren't leading the team on the ice, they aren't leading the team in rivalry games, and they're making stupid mistakes that cause distractions and undermine the locker room. Not what I'd expect out of a once proud national team.

Sick burn. Let's hope Canada can raise themselves up from the depths, must half that moxie, and finish strong in this tournament because the World Juniors are basically all you have with respect to hockey.

Both of those "lapses in judgement" clearly demonstrate that the "leaders" in question don't have their heads on straight, and THAT probably does have an effect on their play.

You're right, this is exactly what Canada wanted out of their leadership group I'm sure.

Can't speak for Mab, but Matt's too busy making excusing for Michigan football to even update the layout of this page and remove Zetterberg and Tatar from the background. Something tells me that he, or she (given your theory), can't be bothered to "nuke" this site.

Not really into MAGA chicks.

Yeah, because you're such a big fan of things that mix up the status quo.

So does leadership not matter then? Who else should be blamed for their lapses in judgement? That's two lapses in judgement in a game against your biggest rival, by two team leaders. And can't we reasonably surmise that "leaders" who aren't dialed in to the task at hand, and keep having lapses in judgement A) are not demonstration the proper level of commitment, focus, determination, and intelligence necessary to win a tournament like this, and B) therefore, shouldn't be leaders at all. I say give the "C" to Lafreniere. I realize he's hurt, but at least he'd give the team something to play for. They currently can't put their egos aside long enough to play for their country...obviously.

Your first 4 or 5 posts today were all relentlessly negative and you're calling me out? Lol. Also, I assume you agree that Yzerman is fielding a purposely s***ty team. Otherwise, he should be fired right now for incompetence.

Pretty hard to compete with the roster that Steven has assembled. If Wings fans want to see better then it's pretty easy to figure out who's at fault, and if they're ok with tanking on purpose (as we're doing) then half of LGW needs to walk back their comments about teams losing on purpose. I recall a number of folks around there bitching in years past about the draft lottery, and teams tanking, and advocating for the Gold Plan, etc. Will be curious to see how everyone responds now that Lord Steven is losing on purpose.

Seems pretty clear that the Canadian squad's frustration level has completely boiled over after their team leadership, including Veleno and Hayton, have been resoundingly outplayed by their peers. Hard to see how getting absolutely SMASHED by your biggest rival, losing a premier talent to injury, and watching your team leadership piss their pants can be spun as a good thing. Veleno and Hayton should be stripped of their letters if Canada wants to save any face at all.

Man Tampa blows. Hard not to think that NHL coaching genius John Tortorella developed the blueprint for beating these p*ssies a year ago. At what point is a team no longer "underperforming" and when do they just start "sucking"?

Very, very, disappointed in Veleno. He's supposed to be a leader on this team, instead he's losing (and using) his head and putting his team in a hole. Another black mark for a prospect who's already pretty suspect.

Need LGW to solve a friendly debate. So dig in.

Agreed, but none of that was what was being debated. I said that AA was the better goal scorer, he thinks Mantha is. The numbers only back up one of those claims. Hint: I'm being cocky because I've already done the math, unlike my little sugar plum over there, so I'm having fun with it. Also, Helm is really good defensively and AA is trash defensively. So aside from them both being fast they're pretty much nothing alike. AA is basically another Michael Grabner (i.e. really fast, really good scorer, not good at anything else).

C'mon babe, it's not fun if you don't play along. All day you've been calling me names and now you're giving me the silent treatment? Just give me a little acknowledgement that you're still here. Let daddy know you're not too mad to talk huh?

Both?

Now that you've said Mantha has the better linemates I'm about to make the "who is the better goal scorer" case using...ready for this?...empirical evidence. You ready? You excited?

Why don't you answer the first question I asked, the thread poll, and then after I'm done owning you I'll let you know. Fair?

Well rather than assume you're a coward and you're avoiding the question which I asked you directly in the other thread, I'll give you another chance here. Who do you think has had the better linemates throughout your career?

It was a genuine question, there are tons of people on this site that have never played a single game of hockey. As a result they might not understand some of the finer points of playing the game. I have no idea whether Neo is in that group or not, which is why I asked. Sorry if that gets your panties in a bunch.