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No s***. Just take the guy to arbitration, get him signed to a reasonable bridge deal, and shed whatever salary (Chara, Lucic, Eriksson) necessary to keep him around. I don't really get it either. They hamstrung themselves on the return the minute the chose to move him as opposed to a half dozen other cap killers on their s***ty roster. On the plus side, somewhere in Beantown Jack Edwards is rocking back and forth while crying gently to himself.

I agree. In hindsight, wouldn't you rather have Boychuk, Seguin, and Hamilton than about half of Boston's team? Aside from Bergeron, every single player on that team is more expendable than the three of those guys. You can excuse one or two mistakes every few years, but man, those are some serious missteps.

They're trading him because they can't afford to re-sign him. How would sending Nyquist, who they also couldn't afford to re-sign, be enticing to them? He was always going for futures. And if that's all you're going to get in return, why trade within the division?

Presumably because they didn't want to trade an up and coming #1 defenseman within their division. The Boston Bruins are retarded, but not THAT retarded.

So in the final analysis, Boston traded Phil Kessel for two first round picks, drafted Seguin and Hamilton with said picks, and then traded each of them? It's not often that a blockbuster trade takes place and one team ends up with NONE of the primary pieces of the trade. That takes some effort.

I mean, I assume that Ferraro or Callahan will out play him for a spot. But why double down on it? Just sign them all, let them compete for a spot, and waive whoever you don't want at the end of the process. No need to limit your options unnecessarily.

Good deal. He can be waived with no harm done, and he can play adequate enough in a pinch. I'm fine with this.

The only hesitation I have at bringing on a guy like O'Reilly, at almost any reasonable salary, is the fact that his dad is his agent...and by all accounts a total dickhead.

Well I stand corrected.

No they weren't. http://mensworlds.usahockey.com/page/show/1748628-dylan-larkin

I think Colorado will trade ROR to Arizona for the third overall and take Hanafin to fill their need on defense. Just a guess though. The time for Detroit to acquire ROR was prior to last offseason. I think they would have been more willing to trade O'Reilly for another forward if they could still have retained Stastny.

Ok, fair enough. I'm done. I guess the thread became a bit of a catch all after Khan reported there was no more interest in Phaneuf.

Do a quick google reference of all the "Paul Heyman guys" over the years. He's by far the most successful manager in history. Paul Bearer is a close second. Everybody else is in the rearview.

Mike Babcock doesn't hold a candle to Paul Heyman. I'm sooooo disappointed you just compared the two lol. Around these parts I'm well known for several things. My conviction that Mike Babcock is an overrated pud is tops on that list. Paul Heyman, on the other hand, is probably the greatest manager in the history of sports entertainment.

Depends, is Paul Heyman coaching him?

I don't think he's "better". You, and everybody else, knows that I would never have something positive to say about a no talent enforcer. I did, however, say that he bested McGrattan over the course of their fights. He definitively won in one fight, and the rest were draws. McGrattan has zero definitive wins against Orr. They both still suck at hockey though. Badly. Like, really bad. A team full of Jakub Kindl's would DESTROY a team full of Brain McGrattan and Colton Orr. That's how bad they each suck.

My comment wasn't really directed at you, just to be clear. And I'm not even arguing that Karlsson should have won the Norris. I'm just saying that I hear "bad defensively" thrown around so often that I can't help but think it's a catch all criticism for guys we don't like, but don't really know why. I put very little stock in it, unless you're talking about a guy like Damien Brunner (who predictably isn't in the league anymore on account of his one way game). I agree about the hockey writers though. Which is why I put very little stock in these awards. It's as much an intellectual exercise for them as anything else. Realistically, a handful of guys would win all the major awards because there aren't that many elite level superstars in the league. Ovechkin or Crosby should get all the offensive awards, Doughty or Keith should get all the defensive awards, and a goalie should probably get the MVP. Close curtain. Goodnight and drive safe folks.

Thank god there's another wrestling fan around here. I figured that reference would go unnoticed until GMRwings showed up later.

Craig Morgan ‏@cmorganfoxaz 27m27 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ Coyotes GM Don Maloney says he's up to 4-5 "legitimate offers" for the No. 3 overall pick in the NHL Draft, with 3 to 4 more "tire-kickers." Oh no...

Green was not the 3rd defenseman for the Capitals. Their top four were Carlson, Alzner, Niskanen, and Orpik. That's why Washington isn't that interested in keeping him around. He's a 6 million dollar third pairing guy.

That press conference was a master stroke by Brian Burke. He became the champion of "Ye Olde Tyme Hockey" by glorifying Colton Orr at the same time as he was effectively waiving him and ending his pro career. "Look at Colton Orr here", Burke gestures, "Why he's the prototype of what a hockey player should be. All heart, knuckles, and square jaw. I love this kid as if he were my own son. He a rat killing, penalty box chillin, death tollin, rock and rollin', son of a gun, and he's the kind of guy that wins hockey games..." ..."which is why I'm waiving him and sending him to the minors".

Erik Karlsson isn't all that bad defensively. That's just the go-to pejorative amongst hockey fans. Any guy that fans (personally) don't want becomes a "defensive liability" or is just generally knocked for having enough offense, but being "bad defensively". "Well, sure Ovie scores 50 goals, but he's not great defensively". "Yandle plays 20 minutes a night for Dave Tippett, but he's not great defensively". "Gaborik will struggle in LA because he's not great defensively". I don't really buy it. There are very few guys in the NHL who are just completely garbage defensively. It's too important for them to be that bad at it.

According to Frank, he also introduced us to the phrases "no hitting hip checks", "flower power greenpeace folks", and "almost non exciting ufa lists". Because Brian Burke said that stuff. Not Frank. Burke. Lol.

This is a Brian Burke quote? I had no idea he was so...eloquent? Lol. "I don't need the usual suspects flower power Greenpeace folks to know what I'm expecting from hockey and what I don't expect..sissy hockey, gimmicks such as 7 outdoor games , Rogers instead of Bell, less hitting hip checks, almost non exciting ufa lists...are for sure not things that I associate with hockey neither are showboaters and other questionable grow the game crap."

Maybe Datsyuk circa 2008. If you haven't noticed, he's looking pretty old these days.