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Good to see Rutherford still has no idea what he's doing.

Colorado making every effort to downgrade an already bad team. Good work Sakic. This is why nepotism usually works out badly.

About 38 bucks.

Cleary isn't coming back. He could have been extended at any point up until now and he hasn't for a reason. And even if he does get signed, he'll be in GR for the year. So no worries there. But if you wanted to be a stickler about it, then yeah, neither Cleary nor Miller are Red Wings products. However I'd still contend that a team built 100% with homegrown talent, plus 2 guys picked up off the scrap heap, would still make Holland the best GM in the history of sports.

Arizona? They're terrible and probably looking to spend as little as humanly possible to ice a complete roster. They're also weak up the middle.

The only thing I want Holland to do today is get rid of Drew Miller. That way, when we win the Stanley Cup this year, we'll do it with a 100% homegrown roster. Thus making Ken Holland the greatest GM in the history of sports.

Yes. I like this move. Keeping GR competitive (with veteran players) has a HUGE, and understated, impact on the development of our prospects. I love having guys in GR who work hard, and win, even if they'll never get a call up. Their influence on the young guys cannot be overstated.

I wonder if Weiss will get signed by someone else today? That'll be an interested sub-plot.

Back in 2010-2011 I'd have been fine with signing Ehrhoff with a top four spot in mind. But I'd be really reluctant to now. He's not been great over the last few seasons. Ultimately it's in the scouting staff's hands, but I'm generally worried that he's on the decline.

It's not unlike Gave to exaggerate. He does it regularly. Khan (and St. James) have both made comments like this lately: "Babcock pushed hard for the Weiss signing in 2013 but surely isn't interested in him now, after making him a healthy scratch the final five games of the playoff series against Tampa Bay." "The Wings signed Weiss to a five-year, $24.5 million contract in the summer of 2013, with Weiss' biggest champion being former head coach Mike Babcock." Which Gave is clearly taking way overboard. It's not unlike the decision to bring Cleary back. Ultimately it's Holland's decision to make, but like any intelligent GM he let his coach weight in on the decision and the coach supported it (in some instances strongly). Which is not the same as "against his better judgement, Holland blah blah blah". Links to quotes above: http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2015/05/how_is_red_wings_potential_pur.html http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2015/06/13/stephen-weiss-detroit-red-wings/71176856/

I figured they'd re-sign him anyway. At no point did I think he was going anywhere.

Hard to say. He's a valuable player, but I don't know if he's worth that. Winnipeg would have to dump some salary if that was the case. Then again, it is Winnipeg. Who wants to play there for too long? If he is looking for a shorter term, he might get 5 mil in salary. Edit: Well there you go, two years, 4.3 million. That's a pretty good deal actually.

Neither Tatar, nor Nyquist, will ever get traded off this team. Especially not to "give Pulkkinen a bigger role". You can pretty much take that to the bank. You don't trade proven NHL talent and assume the risk on unproven talent if you're in a position of strength (i.e. you're the one with the talent). You make the other team assume the risk. IF one were going to be traded, it would be Pulkkinen. But I doubt any of the three get moved. I was only saying that I would sign Semin and trade Pulkkinen as part of a package for a higher end d-man, because I think Pulkkinen will only be mediocre in the NHL.

Brad Boyes to be bought out as well. Not as flashy as Semin, but Boyes has scored a ton of goals in the NHL as well.

I do think he'd work well with Sheahan though. A third line of Semin, Sheahan, Jurco would be tough to stop. Screw Pulkkinen, trade him for a defenseman.

I don't think Semin will go to the Pens. Rutherford is their GM now, and surely he's no fan of Semin after dealing with him in Carolina.

He'll probably bolt to Russia, so no sense worrying about it. Still, good god what a shot that guy has.

Apparently he had some "issues" with his former USHL coach, but I really don't put too much stock into it. What teenager hasn't run across some blowhard douchebag coach that just pisses them off? I know I sure did.

Mods, please move the Jurco talk from the Franzen thread. I've been (partially) to blame for turning it into a Jurco thread. Given the fact that a lot of folks have commented on the topic, I thought it deserved it's own thread, so as not to distract from the Franzen well wishing.

I'd say B+ I think they legitimately got the best available talent each time they went to the podium. The Russian kid is a strong pick, and the goalie and the Marsh kid seem like steals. The Fin defenseman seems like a boom or bust pick and the other defenseman and center are probably just quality depth guys. I don't love the third pick. That, along with the fact that we didn't have a 2nd, keeps me from giving us and A grade. A lot of people will not like the fact that we didn't address the defense in the first round, but honestly there wasn't a defenseman available that has as much upside as the Russian. Good pick.

Hmmm, I'll look for something else. I'm accessing from my work computer, which probably filters all that junk. Edit: Damn, no can do. Apparently the Chicago Tribune is still a pay for play newspaper. Yet another reason Chicago is inferior. Lame.

Works for me. What's wrong with it?

I'm black.

Awesome story about the Wings' last pick, Adam Marsh. Considered a "problem" by some, he may turn out to be a late round steal. This may be the first pick that has Blashill written all over it, given that the kid was originally drafted by the Indy Ice, Blash's former team. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-hockey-billet-family-adam-marsh-spt-1123-20141121-column.html#page=1

We're not European. Thank god.