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And Jimmy Howard. Duh.

When did Kyle Quincey become a badass? He's got a bitchin' beard and he hits everything all of a sudden.

Well his track record seems to suggest that with more ice time, he scores more. For our team, and for Florida. So I think it's at least a reasonable option. And it's not like we're playing so well that we should just keep doing what we're doing. It's probably worth considering a change when you've very nearly played yourself out of a playoff spot.

Unless you'd like more even strength scoring.

Only 8 of his 24 points came on the PP. So it's not like that's inflating his stats. He scores 5 on 5 despite not spending a lot of time there. Which was my point. And I think it's relevant considering our team is awful at scoring 5 on 5.

I'd argue that he absolutely DOES put up enough points. Again, he's on a 40 points pace despite playing 9 minutes a night at even strength. That's not too shabby. Plus, we've got a team full of "defensive forwards", I've heard about Babs' shot suppression system until I want to puke, and we still lose games because we can't score 5 on 5. I don't think it would kill us to put guys in positions to make plays. But your points are taken. Offense is an ancillary part of Babcock's game plan, and so a more offensive guy has less value...until he's Teemu Pulkkinen. .

He's the Keyser Soze of the Detroit Red Wings.

Weiss is scoring at a 40+ point pace, despite playing fewer 5 on 5 minutes than anybody (except Cleary) on the team. Too bad he hasn't "earned" more icetime.

Hey look, Weiss creating more offense. What do you know?

Yikes! Tatar with a brutal turnover.

I wonder what it would look like to see Detroit has some sustained offensive pressure. Seriously, what does that look like?

Ok, it's definitely not cool for people to question your "fanhood". But be honest, you do realize that you're a little bipolar when it comes to the Red Wings right? When we're losing, you're up everyone's ass with posts like the one above. And when we're winning you constantly reference how you've always known they could do it. Lets just all agree that you're impassioned, and leave it at that.

Good story. Too bad it isn't even remotely true. Zetterberg didn't "put this team on his back and will them into the playoffs last year. He didn't play a single game between February 8th and our first round playoff series on April 24th. Nyquist put the team on his back a year ago, scoring 13 goals and 8 assists in March and April. Not Zetterberg, who only played 45 games last year, none of which were in the second half of the season when we were fighting to make the playoffs. Nevertheless, I agree with your larger point. Which is that there's nothing wrong with the team leadership.

Using that rationale, every trade deadline rental who doesn't A) re-sign, or B) help you win a Cup, is "useless". Which is a pretty thin threshold for success. The Cole trade has not been bad or useless.

Totally agree. Zidlicky was excellent right off the bat, and that was a big plus for us. But even if he'd only been half as good I'd have considered it a successful trade. Cole has played fine so far, and will continue to do so going forward. Same with Zidlicky. They've both been excellent additions and have done EXACTLY what Ken Holland was hoping they'd do. People bitching about Cole are the same ones who lament Stephen Weiss too. It drives me crazy.

I assume he's looked "off" because he is coming to a new team, with new teammates, and a new system, and a different coach. AND he still produced points regularly...which is what good veteran players do. Unless a guy is coming from an absolute dumpster fire of a team (e.g. Stafford and Buffalo), they're usually not going to produce more after they leave a situation they're comfortable with for a new team. And even Cole's points per game went down after coming to Detroit. But if you expected any differently, you were probably in error to begin with.

I'm confused, is 6 points in 11 games bad? Did you guys think we were getting Max Pacioretty? We got a 40 point winger, who came to Detroit and played...ready for this...EXACTLY like a 40 point winger. Or were you guys suggesting that Holland should have known Cole would get hurt in advance, and thus not made the trade?

Whelp, if you can't score 5 on 5 goals you're not going to have a lot of success in this league.

Unf***ingbelieveable!

We're frustratingly uncreative offensively. Jesus.

Isn't it obvious what he's there for anyway? Hell, it's obvious what he's in the NHL for. The solution to "it's obvious he's dangerous from the right side" shouldn't be "so lets move him someplace else". Unless he's some kind of multi-threat offensive weapon and I've just had my eyes closed.

Why is Pulkkinen playing in the middle on the PP? That's twice in a row he's not been on the right side.

Bufflin? Love it.

I don't have a problem with it. Cross checks are part of the game. Always have been, and always will be.

I honestly missed that. Where the hell have I been?