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This is why it’s so important to scoop players up via trade when they’re available. Many of them aren’t hitting the market otherwise and the ones who do get overplayed. Look at Columbus, they traded for Ivan Provorov and Dante Fabbro for peanuts a few years ago. This year those guys were two of the top free agent defensemen and Columbus re-signed them before they ever hit the market.

That's what I'm saying. It's not clear to me that he'll ever go "all in". I don't think he cares about winning as long as his team is making money.

I think of it a lot like playing poker. You play a smart hand over and over and over just to stay in the game and keep yourself competitive, waiting for that moment when you go all in and try to win the whole damn thing. Mike Ilitch wanted to win...badly. So he was never shy about going all in when the time was right. Conversely, Chris plays the smart hand over and over. He's not a bad owner. He knows the right plays because he's been around competent sports management his entire life. But I'm not positive he really wants to win. I think he just wants to make money. That's what doomed the Lions for so long. They sold tickets whether they won or lost so why would they spend any extra to field a winner?

I think Chris Ilitch is a decent enough owner, but not a great one. His dad had principles, sand the hockey club was a point of pride for him. Both of which showed through in his decision making. Being a nepo baby, Chris doesn't have the same attachment to the team. He runs it like a business, and when business is bad hockey clubs drum up things like this to put butts in seats. His dad would never have allowed Fedorov's number to be retired because Sergei did Mike Ilitch dirty. And there's no way that Mafioso Mike was gonna pump your tires if you f*cked him. It's the principle of the thing and I liked that. Why should the Red Wings give a sh*t about Fedorov when he so publicly didn't give a sh*t about them when he made the decision to leave like he did?

I've always felt that Fedorov (like the Grind line, Holmstrom, Probert, and maybe a few others) should be given a "Sergei Fedorov" night at the arena and be memorialized at the stadium in some way. Maybe a ring of honor or a walk-of-fame or something. But I just don't think he deserved to have his number retired.

I hate it. Sure he was an amazing player. Nobody is debating that. But he was also a poopy pants baby who left the team to make less money elsewhere because he was butt hurt that he didn't get more accolades (beyond his three Stanley Cups, two Selke's, and one Hart Trophy). Boo hoo. I always liked that for the most part the players in the rafters in Detroit where exceptional players AND great team guys/guys who cherished playing for Detroit. Fedorov was exceptional no doubt, but he never had any great love for Detroit until after the fact. I genuinely don't think this would even be happening if our team didn't suck so much right now. 0/10 Hate it.

Duplicate topic. I didn't see it had already been posted. Disregard.

I don't really mind it. It's a nothing move, but at least it creates some competition for those open RHD spots. I wouldn't have felt especially good rolling into training camp with Holl and JBD guaranteed roster spots.

Prediction: Before the start of training camp the Red Wings will trade for Rasmus Andersson and sign Maxime Comtois to potentially fill their second pair RHD and first line LW spots.

I saw that too. I'd shoot SY with a gun if he moved one our best trade chips for Jonatan Berggren 2.0

These "Cossa to Edmonton" trade rumors are f*cking hysterical. What on earth does that organization have by way of trade bait that we'd actually want? Their NHL roster is made up entirely of untouchable players or easily replaceable players and their farm system is one of the worst in the league. Oh, and they don't have any draft picks either. Who are they trading for Cossa? Bouchard?

Casey Mittelstadt is rumored to be on the trade block from Boston. Seems like most are saying it's a cap dump situation and that they'd retain salary. I think I'd like the move. Maybe flip Berggren for him. Whatever the deal turns out to be, the cost would be minimal and he's shown he can score a lot in limited minutes. If he could play and produce as a 3C then that would free up Copp to play with Larkin and Raymond or else put Copp at 2C and let Marco play on the top line. Copp-Larkin-Raymond Dcat-Kasper-Kane Sodorblom-Mittelstadt-JVR Ras-Compher-Appleton

There is an open spot at left wing and an open spot on the 2nd pair RHD. Or rather, those spots are up for grabs. Don't be surprised if some combination of Mazur, Danielson, or ASP make the opening night roster in lieu of any additional moves from outside the organization.

The judge was also a woman.

I didn't really follow it too closely, but the fact that they had their day in court and a female judge said the accuser's claims were "not credible and not reliable" seems pretty shut and dry to me. But I don't really care about the case. I'm curious when these guys will be able to play again. Carter Hart and Alex Formenton are both dudes that could really help this team given that they're not rapists.

Looks like the Canadian World Junior defendants are being exonerated today. Wonder how long it will take NHL teams to start scooping these dudes up?

You'd have to imagine not very much considering the cause of the impasse is that Minny management don't believe Rossi is a top of the lineup player despite his point totals (according to reports). If that's true then I'd imagine you'd have to give them a comparable bottom six roster player and a B-level prospect (given that Rossi is cost controlled). I think something centered around Compher/Berggren and a prospect would do it.

I was listening to a podcast with Max Bultman from the Athletic and he claims that Max Plante was an already over 6 feet tall on draft day. Bultman claims that his own height is a “true” 5’11 and that he looked up to Plante upon meeting him for the first time. Perhaps he’s a grower and not a show-er?

I agree and think Plante, in particular, is going to be a very good center in the NHL. Like, I think he’s going to be one of those “how did he fall to the 2nd round” sort of guys.

I put some feelers out to CBJ fans on Reddit to learn more about his defensive game and physical game. I know he's not some kind of Tkachuk style "power forward" but if he can use his size to protect pucks, win board battles, and crash the net then he may just be an option with the guys you mentioned. I just don't know enough about his game to know if he's got top line potential, but it's an interesting thought.

I'm not a Dougie Hamilton fanboy or anything, but he's a MUCH BETTER player than Karlsson. Hamilton gives you the same offense and powerplay expertise but he can actually defend against top players at even strength. That's the problem with Karlsson in a nut shell. He can score a zillion points, but only if you play him 20 mins a night. And if you play him 20 mins a night he'll get scored on even more than he scores...which is a lot. Hamilton doesn't have that problem. I agree. He's also a pretty stout guy too, so even through he brings "soft skill" it's more of the Daniel Sprong variety than the Jonatan Berggren variety.

I agree with all that, but I also think it's selling his skill a little short. Every hockey fan (I know this isn't what you're saying) thinks skill = flash and he's certainly not that. But that's a bogus premise. He's got "pro style" skills. Who cares if you can dipsy doodle with the puck (a la Tomas Jurco) if you can't do it consistently in a game ya know? Who cares if you're fast as greased lightening (a la Andreas Athanasiou) if it only factors in when you're on a breakaway? Over the years I've learned to really value pro-style skill and I'm pretty skeptical of the Youtube highlight players. If you can't fight win board battles to maintain possession or fight through checks to jump on rebounds then your value is pretty limited in the NHL, regardless of how cute your stick handling is. It reminds me of all these college football quarterbacks (e.g. Vick, Tebow, RGIII, Newton, Young, etc.) that have success in the NCAA playing a way that will never EVER work in the NFL. Who cares if you can rush for a billion yards if you can't throw? The NFL is a passing league. If you can't pass it doesn't matter how great your rushing is because your team will lose more than it wins.

Does anyone else think we got a really good one in Carter Bear? I didn’t follow the draft closely this year and didn’t know too much about him going into things but the more I read the more I really like this kid. He’s still go so much filling out to do too. He’ll play at 6’1 and 195 lbs with legit skill and grit. I love this pick.

Yeah, you’re in the right ballpark. Can’t imagine it would cost much. But I wouldn’t expect too much either. He’s basically Dominik Kubalik 2.0

Intriguing name out of Columbus: Yegor Chinakhov. Former 1st round pick that just requested a trade out of CBJ. His career has been sidelined by a series of injuries, but produced about .5 ppg when in the lineup. Has size and a wicked shot. Might be a good "buy low" candidate with some potential uptapped upside.