kipwinger

I agree with you about DDP, it's a god damned travesty. But I'm curious why you always say Holland treated Tootoo badly. I mean, he did sign him to a pretty reasonable contract, waived him and let him play in GR rather than sit on the bench, and bought him out so that he didn't have to play in GR for another year. Seems to me, by all accounts, Holland did right by Jordan Tootoo. How else was Holland supposed to act if Babs isn't going to play the guy?

Why is there a weird trend amongst some fans wherein you feel the need to expound upon athletes' personal lives in order to make a point? This reminds me of GMRwings repeated references (and pictures) of McGrattan's girlfriend. For one thing, Alex Ovechkin almost certainly lives in a nice place, and bangs hot chicks. But that doesn't really mean much does it? I mean, Michael Douglas got HPV from Catherine Zeta Jones, and California is home to all sorts of horrible environmental problems. The relative hotness of your girlfriend, or the location of your house, isn't really all that important in the grand scheme of things. But more importantly, you don't actually know Ryan Getzlaf, or his girlfiend, or his life. He's a stranger. You don't know anything at all about him. It's just creepy. Super, duper, creepy. I know you're going to say, "no duh Kip, I'm aware I don't know Ryan Getzlaf". And while that's true, I'm not sure you really understand, believe, or have internalized that truth. So I'll say it again... You Don't Know Ryan Getzlaf

Except Olbermann. That guy rules. He's such a dick. Edit: Lol.

Agreed. I think they're awesome. I could see complaining about them if he broke a rule or something. Instead he's just really super awesome at shootouts. Nothing to see here...except amazing stickhandling and otherworldly dekes...of course.

He actually had four shots. But I think the praise is still warranted.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not gushing over the guy. But I really didn't think last night's broadcast was biased. Nothing jumped out as being overtly partisan. Oh, and I do gush a little over Pierre McGuire. That guy is awesome. I seriously love his commentary. He's like the anti Jack Edwards...in the sense that he actually talks about hockey and isn't a blowhard douchebag.

Yawn.

I thought he just had a quite game because he was dragging around a slow, undersized, one-dimensional rookie all night. Or did was he carrying him on his shoulders? But in all seriousness... I didnt' think the commentary was Chicago centric at all. I personally heard Edzo refer to Datsyuk as "one of the best in the game", "world class", a "sure fire hall of famer". He also called Babcock "the best in the business", and commented that Detroit's success was "remarkable". Also, both he and Pierre were very critical of Versteeg after his little meltdown. I was actually pretty impressed by the NBC boys last night.

I thought we argued about Jack Johnson contracting bankruptcy from Nick Foligno and Brendan Smith sucking as bad as having rabies? I've got to tell you, my long term memory just isn't what it used to be. There was a time when I remembered everything perfectly, my mind was like a steel trap. And if, IF, I was wrong about something I owned up to it before events had even proven me wrong. Now I own up to being wrong, only after events have happened, and the facts are in. Like a sucker.

I don't recall hearing Henrik Zetterberg's name mentioned a single time last night. That's probably not good.

Nah, I'm done bro. I didn't even read that last one. It's a new day, and with a new day comes a whole new set of things to discuss. I can only bring out the best in people one at a time. Yesterday was his turn. Today might be yours. Watch out buddy. Doom!

All things considered, would you say that this picture represents the "Golden Age" of the NHL? I mean, did it ever get any better?

Lol.

You're doublespeaking too. That's twice you've interjected yourself into it, this most recent time coming an hour and a half after we'd quit talking about it. You're stirring the pot hombre. I do it too. It's cool. But good for you for admitting the limits of your rabbit knowledge and vocabulary. It takes a big man to admit when they're wrong.

I called him out for saying Pulkkinen is the "coveted right shooting sniper we've been longing for", and then guaranteeing that most fans, and the team's management feel the same way. And for saying all that without substantiating it. And then for trying to say "I'm only giving my opinion" whilst "guaranteeing" that "most fans" and team management feel the same way. Which is crap. But yes, you're right. I did say that he shouldn't be surprised that nobody agrees with him. Some people probably do. I've never seen or heard anybody, anywhere, say, imply, or suggest that they coveted a right shooting sniper, but there are probably some. So again, I was wrong. It's so cathartic.

You know, I legitimately never thought about that. It's entirely possible. I think Desert Rat got it right calling him a Mauler though. If that picture is real, good god.

Don't feel dumb. I have seen that picture a ton of times and still have no idea. This is definitely not the first time I've compared that picture to others of Gordie. I've concluded that it's one of three things...1) It's fake, 2) the camera adds 75 lbs. of lean muscle mass, 3) for a couple years in the middle of his career, Gordie Howe was indeed a body double for Lou Ferrigno. I have not made a final determination on which one yet.

I'm about 70% convinced that's photo shopped. I can't prove it, since I have almost no technical knowledge whatsoever. But it just feels fake. Those are like, Hulk Hogan's arms or something. I'm pretty sure, if Gordie Howe was that big, at least one other picture of him would show verify it. But that's the only one I've ever seen like it. It's got to be a fan's photoshop. If it was Brian McGrattan I'd know exactly where to place the blame. Here's one of Gordie and Jean Beliveau in the 50's which seems way more reasonable to me...

Guilty, your honor.

I'd love to man, but that would only be enabling him. You can't begin to address a problem, if you fail to acknowledge that there is a problem. krsmith17 has got to take the loss on this one. If you're going to go around "guaranteeing that management thinks this" or "guaranteeing that most fans feel that", you've got to back it up. And if you can't, you're just plain old wrong. Admitting it is half that battle. This is when the healing begins.

Well they got Niederreiter in the deal so I think they're probably ok with it. He's basically the only top six forward they have who isn't a cupcake.

Oh no, your last resort is to accuse me of never admitting when I'm wrong? What about those two times I admitted I was wrong...just today? Once when I was talking to you...and told you that you were right? Once here when I was talking to you about Jurco: http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/77016-time-for-teemu/page-11 "You're right about that. He could have used the seasoning. I legitimately thought, after last year, that he was ready. But I was wrong on that. He definitely could have used more time to hone his power forward game down there." And once here when I was talking about Helm and Abby: http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/77150-official-2015-nhl-trade-deadline-thread/page-6 "Agreed. I'd prefer to get him out of the top six, but I certainly don't want him off the team at this point. Admittedly, I was singing a different tune at the start of the season but I was wrong about that. He and Abby have been a big part of this team's success, both because of their own production and because of their ability to battle and retrieve pucks for the skill guys." I seriously defy you to find ANYONE else on LGW who has admitted being wrong even a single time in the last two months, and I did it twice today. But in the mean time, you should probably just stop. This is all starting to look like sour grapes bud. You said a wrong thing, it's ok. When you get called on it next time just say "yeah, that was probably hyperbole", or "yeah, I guess they were specifically talking about a right shot defenseman". It's ok. Being wrong isn't the end of the world. Nobody expects you to be right all the time. And if you just admit you were full of it to begin with, you wouldn't have to say things like "All left handed shots throughout the lineup is clearly the way to go. I apologize for my ignorance...". Which is frankly, beneath you. Take it from me, the guy who can (demonstrably) admit when I'm wrong. I want you to be a better you. It's the Kip effect.

Your original statement was "Pulkkinen is the coveted right handed sniper we've been longing for". Which is you speaking for other people. From the very get go you were trying to speak on behalf other people and when you got called on it, you fell back on this "I'm only speaking for myself" crap. You weren't. Even at the beginning. Now you're saying "A lot" of other people agree with you after you previously "guaranteed MOST fans and the organization" agreed with you. Just stop. This is silly. You've been exposed. You don't get to speak on behalf of "most fans" or the organization without backing it up.

All I'm saying is that I don't think we need a right shot sniper...and I GUARANTEE most fans AND the organization feel the exact same way...but I'm only talking about my preference...and most fans and the organization too...but just me...and them. I guarantee it. But only for me. And everybody else too.

There are plenty of gritty guys who can skate. Glendening, Prust, martin, and clutterbuck come to mind. I don't agree that you have to sacrifice speed for grittiness.