kipwinger

Well I read recently, on one of these threads, that his offense is in decline. We should trade for Tyler Myers to fill in the gaps.

"LOL I've said I'm not expecting much this year and wouldn't have been surprised if they didn't do well. I've also said that I'll reserve judgment till some things are impossible." Translation... Saying "I'm not expecting much" allows me to say "I told you so" if we don't do well in the playoffs. But saying "I'll reserve judgement" allows me to not be totally wrong if we go ahead and do well in the playoffs. Conclusion... Sitting on the fence, while uncomfortable to look at, still appeals to a particular type.

Because one offensive defenseman isn't enough?

Holland has made clear he doesn't want a depth signing so he's looking for a top four defenseman. He's also made clear that he wants a puck mover and not a stay at home guy. So whoever he gets is going to be a puck mover in the top four. Now, given that Babs likes to pair one puck mover with one stay at home guy, the likelihood of pairing an acquired defenseman with Kronwall is small. So chances are, it'll either be Quincey or Dekeyser who's bumped from the top four.

I wasn't using the video to illustrate that A) Myers is the worst, or B) that Prust isn't dirty. I was using in response to Dabura's "statement"...um...statement. I'm not exactly sure how it's a "statement" to get dominated by dudes a tenth your size for two periods, and then finally act like a big boy in the third after you've given up two goals and been beaten like a mule. If I wanted to prove Myers was the worst, I'd direct you to his Jonathan Ericsson like numbers or his league worst corsi. If I wanted to prove that Brandon Prust wasn't dirty, I'd be stupid.

I'm glad the Habs lost too. They're our competition. But slow that video down at 40-45 seconds. Prust hits him in the side (so I suppose you could say blindside if you want, but it's pretty perpendicular looking to me), and not in the head.

Andreas Athanasiou to be back in a week, per Blashill. http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/prospect-news-on-janmark-kadeikin-paterson-and-griffins-great-skate-notes

I don't need to make a case for how bad Tyler Myers is. His stats already do that for me. He's apparently class president of the Brendan Smith school of puck moving defensemen.

Statement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER7fa1ESZsA

How many points did he score? You win. I'm obviously no match for your otherworldly intellectual sophistication. Please go easy on me in the future. But before you do, explain how we're going to acquire Green and Petry WITHOUT trading Quincey, Kindl, or "another roster player" for them. Also, could you explain what beer goggles (finding ugly people attractive) has to do with what you were saying?

The Maple Leafs use goalies like condoms.

Agreed. Ben Bishop is THE monster. Jonas Gustavsson is A monster in the same way that Randall from Monsters Inc. was A monster.

He had 29 pts. in 45 games in 2013 before taking a step back a year ago. His production this year is putting him right back on that same track. If I'm betting, I'd say last years' regression was the exception, and the 25-30 pts. in 40-45 games is the rule. Especially on a more offensively capable team like ours. But that's me. I agree though, always a risk. But very few defensemen luck their way into 50 pts, especially on a bad team. Given his age, past performances, and current production (for a bad team), my guess is he's more James Wisniewski than Matt Niskanen.

You're right. How dumb we are for not figuring out that Cristal Flute = Champagne Glass = The Alcohol is talking = I don't really mean what I'm saying. Apparently when it comes to conspicuous ways of relaying your thoughts, you're the master. And a separate apology for not being able to discern between this fake trade proposal, and all the other "real" times you've advocated trading Kindl and Quincey for guys much better than they are.

I want Holland to trade for only people I like, and only trade away guys I don't. Is that too much to ask?

We should get Dave Dombrowski to teach Kenny how to trade rape other teams. He's magic at trading guys. "Hey, we want Dontrell Willis, but if you'll throw in that Cabrera guy we'll give you an extra good prospect!" "Hey, we want Cody Franson, but if you'll throw in that Van Riemsdyk character we'll give you and extra good prospect!"

5 million for a guy that'll put up 50 pts. from the back end this year? Yep. I don't care about his supposed defensive lapses. I view it the same way I did the Wisniewski contract. 50 pts. defensemen don't grow on trees, and certainly don't come along too often at the prime of their careers.

I think it's a concern, but probably not as much as you'd think. Teams do it regularly. If the return package is good, it's good. Kesler to Anaheim. Vanek to Montreal. You've got to figure, Franson is an FA and can sign anywhere (including Detroit) so might as well get the best package regardless of destination. Besides, they're about to enter a full blown rebuild. They won't be competing with us anytime soon so why worry about Cody Franson hurting you down the line?

I didn't see this answer coming. Would you trade Dekeyser for him (with the understanding that he'd re-sign)?

But lets get down to brass tacks...would you trade Smith for him? Or would your head explode at the thought lol?

You didn't answer the question, you wouldn't trade a 2nd round pick for Cody Franson?

You seriously wouldn't trade a 2nd round pick for Franson? He's already got 29 pts. on the season. I get your concern, I'm reluctant (in some ways) to take cast offs from bad teams too. But I'd certainly give a second round pick for him.

A second isn't too much to pay. If teams are asking the world for a guy, then wait and sign him later, but if the price is reasonable you should get the jump on it. Aside from the fact that he'd be useful for our playoff run, there's no guarantee we'll be as good next year as we are this year. What if we wait and injuries are a problem again? Or Jimmy has a bad year? Or Babs leaves and we've got a rookie coach? If teams want you to overpay, then wait until the offseason. If they want a second for Cody Franson, give them the second plus Landon Ferraro and kill two birds with one stone lol.

If the Leafs only want a second rounder for Franson, what do they want for Franson and JVR? A second and roster player? Edit: Just imagine a top six of... Tatar-Dats-JVR Gus-Hank-Abby I drool.

I disagree. Ouellet has a good point shot. Its not as hard as Sproul, but very accurate.Much better than marchenko or Jensen. You need a good point shot to put up points from the back end in the NHL. I'm not opposed to moving him for the right package, but he will be a much more productive NHL defenseman than the others minus Sproul.