kipwinger

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    Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

    I agree, in part. My point is that while a solid puck mover is a necessary condition for being a contender, I don't think (given the way we've been playing) it's a sufficient one. As such, I don't see Holland going out and getting one just to get one. If, however, we can string together some wins and play well against good teams (i.e. we're better than I think we are) then maybe Holland decides a puck mover is sufficient for Cup contention, and he pulls the trigger. Right now I think he's trying to figure out which is the case. If the team wants a puck mover before the off-season, they better prove that they can run with the big boys.
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    McGratton on waivers

    "It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era -- the kind of peak that never comes again...Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run... There was madness in any direction, at any hour...You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning...And that, I think, was the handle -- that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting -- on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than five days later...you can almost see the high-water mark -- that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."
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    McGratton on waivers

    It's highly unlikely that the two of them will run into each other as only one of them will be visiting a National Hockey League ice surface anytime soon.
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    McGratton on waivers

    It should be pretty obvious by now that pictures of Brian McGrattan don't have the same visceral affect on me that they do on you. Although, I will say that it's fitting that you chose a picture of him doing something other than skating.
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    Franzen on IR

    Let's see what you actually said in 2009 shall we? Here's what you said before Franzen signed his long term, front loaded, Zetterberg-like contract...http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/55479-need-to-get-hudlerfranzen-signed-long-term/page-3?hl=%20franzen%20%20signed "...at this point Hudler will probably cost more or just as much as Franzen! So, get Franzen signed long term and let Hudler sign somewhere else. If he signs somewhere else for anywhere between 2.6 and 3.9 million, we WILL get a 1st and a 3rd round pick from that team. That there is more valuable than signing Hudler and letting Franzen walk. Hudler will more than likely get that 2.6 million. Get Franzen signed the front loaded way Zetterberg was, let Huds, McCarty, Chelios, Sammy walk and get Hossa signed to a similar Zetterberg contract. Must trade Filpulla in ANY scanario so we can get that $3 million off the books. Filpulla should get us a 2nd round pick. At the very least a 3rd." Here's what you said the day of the Franzen signing, in the "Franzen signs Extension" Thread...http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/56801-johan-franzen-signs-extension-11-years/page-6 "Just as a few of us said a long time ago! Bye Bye Filppulla, Hudler & Sammy for sure! Hello HOSSA long term! Hudler with get at least the same somewhere so HELLO 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick! Trade Flip for a 2nd and 3rd and lets go!" And here's what you said one day after the Franzen signing...http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/56801-johan-franzen-signs-extension-11-years/page-11 "Quickly, I like Franzen but if he wanted to have to best available chance(s) to win Cups within those 11 years, he should've have signed a contract that had a cap hit more like $2.9M. This pretty much screws us for Hossa, unless he takes a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE discount to stay here OR he signs somewhere for 1 year OR takes another 1 year deal at that same discount, then comes back when Lidstroms contract is off the books. Of course if Lids wants to stay he MUST take a HUGE discont as well. Franzen just tied the hands if Holland and Holland allowed it to happen." And here's what you said a few weeks after Hossa signed with Chicago...http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/60109-chicago-fans-dont-want-hossa/?hl=%2Bchicago+%2Bfans+%2Bhossa "Anyway, Hossa scored 40 goals for us, that is it. That is all his history will leave us. Luc Robitaille and Brett Hull were "Better" Red Wings than Hossa. Larry Murphy is a "Better" Red Wing than Hossa. Steve Duschene was more important to this team. For Gods sake, Keith Primeau meant more to this team!" I wouldn't go around gloating. At best, your record on the Franzen/Hossa topic is flip floppy. At worst, you wanted Franzen re-signed (like he was) and you though Steve Duschene and Keith Primeau meant more to the Red Wings than Hossa did.
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    Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

    I was just about to edit my other post and say that rather than the next 12-15 games, it's basically all the way up to the trade deadline. The schedule between Feb. 16 and Mar. 4 is disgusting. We better show up, because if we keep playing like we are now that's A LOT of points we're looking to lose.
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    Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

    I mean, obviously I'd like to see more offense from the back end. But as I said before, I don't see Holland parting with assets until the team proves that it can play (and win) consistently. I think the next 12-15 games are critical. First, because they're the games leading up to the trade deadline and we'll have a better idea of who's available (elsewhere as well as for Detroit). But also because we'll finally be playing a steady diet of high quality teams. If we s*** the bed against them, I don't see Holland doing anything. If we split (or heaven forbid, win a majority), I could see him being a little more likely to bring in some help. But this team has to prove itself before a smart GM like Holland is going to go out and spend valuable assets on a run they may not be able to make (even with the help).
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    Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

    I hope you're right (about the upcoming games), but I'm not holding my breath. As far as the first part, I don't doubt we'll make the playoffs. But I"d like to make a little noise once we get there. And I don't hold out a lot of hope for that when I see how we play against playoff caliber teams. Again, I'd love to be wrong. I'm not even saying the sky is falling. But I strongly disagree with anyone who thinks this team is a contender, or even "heading in the right direction", when they haven't beat anyone good in a month, and have lost to quite a few BAD teams (Florida, Columbus, Toronto, Colorado) during that same stretch. They need to figure out what they were doing right in November and early December. I wish I knew what it was. I'd email them the answer right now.
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    Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

    The only teams we've beat in a month are Buffalo, New Jersey, Ottawa, Edmonton, and Calgary. Seriously, we haven't beat a playoff bound team in a month. And at some point we've got to stop with all this "we're not competing", "we're not playing our best hockey", "this group is better than that", "we need a 60 minute effort". I'm not being negative just to be negative. But regardless of how many points you've got, to be a good team you've got to beat good teams. We aren't. Which makes me think all the points we've got are the product of a weak early season schedule, and not because we're that great. Here's hoping Babs and the boys prove me wrong. I'd love to be. But to do that they've got to go at least .500 against playoff caliber teams.
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    Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

    He clearly did that just to make it to the playoffs. This year it looks like that shouldn't be a problem, so I don't see him doing something similar. I guess I'm talking about an impact trade more than anything. Nobody expected the Legwand deal to make us a contender.
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    Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

    As I said in the other thread, we've got to win some games (convincingly) before Holland makes a trade. In the past he's made trades to "get us over the hump", not "get us to the hump". This team can't beat good teams right now, and doesn't really look impressive when they beat bad teams. Why give up good young assets for a playoff rental when you are clearly more than a piece or two away from being a contender? If we play like we did in November, and do it consistently, Holland makes a trade. If we play like we did Saturday, then Holland stands pat. Which is good, because the team I watched Saturday needs a lot more than Jeff Petry to make them a contender.
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    Lines Thread

    I think Holland definitely makes a trade if we're playing like we did in November when we looked like a contender. But even with a healthy team, since then we've looked inconsistent. When we win it's not convincing, and when we lose it looks like garbage. In the past Holland has made trades to "get over the hump". Not to "get up to the hump". If we don't start stringing together wins, and doing so convincingly, then I don't see him shipping out talent for playoff rentals. I agree. That was my point. After the last couple season you knew that as soon as a couple people got hurt it was going to be..."here we go again". It's b.s., but here it is.
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    McGratton on waivers

    Who's "taking fighting out"? GMs are voluntarily waiving goons because they're useless. There is ZERO effort by ANYONE to "take fighting out". It's not like Gary Bettman is forcing teams to waive guys like Brandon Prust or Steve Ott because they occasionally fight. If you fight once in a while and can play hockey, you get to keep your job. If you are a useless tub of s*** (read: McGrattan) then you hit the bricks. But that's because he's useless, not because someone is "taking fighting out" of hockey.
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    Lines Thread

    And let the excuses begin... "The Detroit Red Wings, following two injury-riddled seasons, have been fairly healthy - until last week. First, they lost forwards Johan Franzen (possible concussion) and Tomas Jurco (back). Now it appears goaltender Jimmy Howard will be out a while due to a groin injury. They were already missing goalie Jonas Gustavsson (shoulder) and defenseman Jakub Kindl (sprained elbow)." http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2015/01/5_things_to_watch_red_wings_in.html
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    Lines Thread

    If the second pair is just going to be a shutdown pair anyway, and provide relatively little offense, what do you guys think about moving dekeyser up with knonwall, and putting Ericsson with Quincey? I agree that Q and dekeyser have been good defensively, but if we can't figure out a transition game then I think we are going to continue to struggle.
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    1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

    Just sour grapes because I spent a lot of money to watch the team phone it in.
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    1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

    What was the refrain before the game? We are headed in the right direction? Too bad they all can't be Edmonton and Calgary.
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    1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

    All three of the new lines had zone time. We've got this. Gustav New-kist. Ugh. Arena announcers are the worst
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    1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

    We finally had a little zone time once babs changed the lines. Hopefully we can get all over them in the third.
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    1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

    These lines look better
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    1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

    Unreal.
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    1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

    Need to get Weiss up with sheahan and pulkkinen. Miller works hard but can't make plays.
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    1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

    So far here's my impression of pulkkinen. He's got good quickness, pouncing on loose pucks, or finding open ice in the offensive zone. But up and down the ice or breaking into the zone he's only an OK skater. Also, his defense is fine. He's always tracking his guy and seems to be aware that he's got to play two ways up here. As far as the team goes, we are abysmal at gaining the zone and it is solo easy to break up out play through the neutral zone. Plus we are bad passers. And we play with no pace. We get the puck, load up, rush, throw the puck away, go get it back, circle back, load up, and do it again.
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    1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

    At the game. Pulkkinens shot is unreal. Soooo much quicker than anything else we have seen on this team.
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    McGratton on waivers

    Lol. Tell me again about how useful McGuffin is on the day that he cleared waivers? I suppose 30 NHL General Managers are just as ***, pussified, and delusional as I am eh?