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I agree. But honestly, who can take you seriously with a sig. line like that? You're a disgrace.

Am I the only one having a hard time deciding which game to watch? The one where Anthony Mantha begins his professional career? Or the one where the Chicago Blackhawks humiliate my favorite team?

Probably. But I'm not touching that.

The question was, "What has he done to make you think he's pissy". And your answer is, "he's cocky"? And around and around we go.

Literally every single time I've ever heard the guy talk about hockey he's been humble and incredibly gracious. Including his handling of the racial slurs lobbed at him by some Boston fans during last year's playoffs, or Shawn Thornton spraying him with water from the bench. At no point have I ever seen him be "pissy". Even when he should have been. Then again, there's no reason to be "pissy" when you're really good and winning games over your rivals.

I suppose he must have done it, but I never put too much stock in accusations of diving because it's so entirely shaped by how games are covered. I mean, our local crews aren't going to point out instances in which we do it (I've seen Franzen, Smith, and Glendening all dive pretty good so far this year). However, when the other team does it they'll show it 10 times, and Mickey will make a big deal out of it, and we'll all have our attention brought to it. But I'm not convinced that they're doing it any more or less. It's just covered when they do it. I'm sure Montreal's local broadcasters never, ever, show them diving on the home broadcast...and yet we all see it. Same is probably true for us. Though I wouldn't know, because nobody would mention it. Or when they do (Like Edzo with his "subtle interference") we all act like it's sour grapes (though it probably isn't).

I disapprove of all varieties of goofballery. Intensely emotional or otherwise.

What has Subban ever done to suggest he's "pissy"?

Actually I could get on board with that. Except that neither Jurco nor Tatar are great defensively, and I think Babs likes Abby for his shutdown abilities. That said, I also don't think Jurco or Tatar are as bad defensively as they're often made out to be. And their offense w/Dats would surely justify Abby's demotion. p.s. I hate Andersson and wish him the best, as long as he goes away. Give me Mitch Callahan or give me death!

NO! No you wouldn't. No way. Take it back right now. Seriously.

I'm curious to see how this turns out. I don't think these lines are terrible. If they struggle I'd like to see him flip flop Abby with Franzen, but other than that I like the looks of it (in theory).

Afterward he could have bathed in the blood of his vanquished enemy right? It would have been awesome! Nothing cooler than watching Lucic and the B's lose hockey games and kick ass!

Obviously Lucic would be him in a fight, but I don't think Subban would be afraid to go with him at all. Subban is a really strong dude.

Did he really back down from Subban? That would be soooo ******* sweet.

Knock over some cars and drag a pretty blonde girl to the top of the Empire State Building?

I'd take Van Riemsdyk just for the connection to his brother. Then maybe Detroit will get in on all those "went to City X to play with so and so" trades and free agent signings.

Nobody is going to get another team's top prospect for a cast away player on an expiring contract. But they'd be dumb not to ask. Mantha is fine. I've always hated when Khan or St. James says "the asking price was Mantha" and that's why nothing got done. Bulls***. That's what negotiating is. Starting at the extreme and working in from there.

I'm pretty sure he was saying he would take Bogo as long as it was without 1st, Mantha, or Larkin.

Be careful giving Bogo "30ish" point status. He's only done it once, and has only really come close one other time. Every other season he's been injury prone and abysmal at putting up points. We have this tendency to assume that other players will produce more after they come here, which doesn't hold water. They might, or their production might stay as it was. But there's always the Quincey example. You might get quite a lot less out of him than you'd think. Maybe. Or maybe they'd be like Quincey. I agree, that's a big gamble to take when a team is asking for those kinds of prices.

Agreed. He's consistently come up short given all the hype. I'd place him squarely in the Tyler Myers camp. Big, plays lots of minutes, but doesn't really do anything great with them.

Saying teams don't have scoring g depth like they did in the past is not evidence that putting grinders in the top six works. Especially considering our scorers aren't that good compared to the other quality teams in the league. We already don't have top flight scorers and now we are taking g up top six spots on guys who have no offense. The result? Our team struggles to score and you guys come on lgw and say its working. It isn't. That's why we lose against good teams. The defense and jimmy keep it close and the offense can't finish. But it works right?

Did he say that or did you?

Because he made that exact comparison originally. I was responding to his comparison.

How's it valid? Back then you could get away with a grinder in the top six because the other four or five guys produced more than enough offense. That's not a case on today's team. We need all of our top six players to contribute because we are offensively anemic. By the way, if its such a good idea why isn't it working? Neither helm or Abby have ever replicated the numbers that "grinders" like McCarty, lapointe, or brown did.

Lol. I'm acting like its the same league huh? Aren't you the one justifying something Babs is doing by saying "Bowman did it" too? Lets find out. You originally said, "For those lamenting Helm and Abdelkader on scoring lines, was Bowman an idiot for playing McCarty, Brown, and Lapointe on scoring lines?", And now you're saying it's a different league. I agree. Which is why having offensively talentless grinders on your scoring lines is a bad idea. The very point I was making originally. Bowman could do it because he didn't just have scorers, he had hall of fame scorers. Babs can't do it, because his best scorer is Franzen (or Nyquist). It's not the same league, so justifying Babs' lines because "Bowman did it", is a worthless, intellectually flimsy argument. As you yourself seem to agree with when you say things like "stop acting like this is the same league".