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That's because none of the Canadian Olympians play for the Red Wings. I keed, I keed.

I love JVR, but don't see him going anywhere. Although, the Maple Leafs have traditionally been known for doing impossibly stupid things so maybe. Anyway, JVR is the next Jeff Carter and it's exactly that type of guy that the Wings could use. I'd move Nyquist in a second for a guy like that.

The point of my saying to trade Nyquist was not to say that he's a bad player, he's not. But contrary to what most of LGW believes, you can't get a top six winger for Cleary, Kindl, and a 3rd. You need to give up something valuable. Nyquist has value, he's good, but not what we really need right now. The margin of victory for the Red Wings does not rest on Nyquist's defensive upside (I don't see that he's particularly good at it right now) or assist totals. We need someone with 25-30 goal potential and size...Nyquist and a 1st would be the starting price for a piece like that.

It's not really surprising that Z had a bad game last night. He's one of only two offensive threats on our team right now, and we were playing one of the three best defensive teams in hockey. I imagine it's REALLY hard to play well with David Backes draped all over you for 60 minutes.

Kocur played for the Wings during two different spans. He was on the team between 85-91 and then came back.

I don't like Nyquist in the top six. He's not producing and I don't think he's ready physically to play against the league's top forwards. When (if) guys get healthy I'd like to see him dropped down the depth chart, or preferably packaged with our first for a winger with some size for the top six.

He didn't get fined for starting his goons. He got fined because his goons made no attempt to play the puck off the opening faceoff and were clearly instructed to do what they did. You can keep saying "Hartley can start who he wants" and nobody will disagree because he can, but you shouldn't confuse that with the reason he got suspended. Here's the league's quote on Hartley's fine... "We are holding Mr. Hartley responsible for the actions of Flames' right wing Westgarth, who took the game's opening faceoff and attempted to instigate a premeditated fight with an unwilling opponent -- the Canucks' Kevin Bieksa."

I don't really think it's fair to say that Holland hates fighting. Over the years he's usually had a guy or two who fought on the roster. Downey, May, McCarty, Tootoo, Drake, Avery were all on the roster when Holland was GM. But he doesn't coach the team, if Babs doesn't play them, what are you going to do?

I see what you did there. Totally out of left field. You never turn every single conversation into a pedantic rant about Cleary, Bert, Sammy, or Quincey that we all implicitly agree with. Bravo!

Well I definitely agree with you there. I really wasn't impressed with his one game call up last year, but he's made HUGE strides since then. He's a total boss now. Very good defensively. Kudos to him.

I was the one that said I don't like it when guys move from their established positions. I know that guys CAN do it, but I don't prefer it. Franzen and Zetterberg are both better as wingers than centers and their best seasons have been on the wing, and Sheahan has been a stud so far at center so I don't understand why you'd move him to the wing. The only guy it seems to work for is Abby, and even then, I'm not sure he's any better as a wing than as a center. But I should say, it's not that it's impossible for guys to do it. There are talented players all over the league who "could" change positions, but if they've shown that they're effective in one role then barring injuries I don't see why you'd move them to a position where they've been less effective. Anyway, it's all academic because that's how Babs rolls and there's no changing it, so it is what it is.

Missed the first two periods, anybody want to fill me in on how we look...hopefully without devolving into a "Sammy, Clearly, Bert, Quincey" tirade.

Torts is a jackass. Just put Sestito and Kassian out there to fight the two mongoloids from Calgary and move on. I thought that was the whole reason Vancouver had Kassian and Sestito to begin with. If you aren't going to put the Sedins out and try to avoid it, get your tough guys out there and get it over with.

Haha, given that they're only willing to hire french canadian coaches they'd better slow it down a little on the coaching changes. Alain Vigneault already has a job and Guy Boucher sucks, so there's nobody else but Therrien left.

Would you say that it's your "precious"?

I haven't really watched them much this season. But in years past it always seemed like they weren't built for the tight checking of the playoffs. They had neither the toughness nor the high end skill to be successful in the playoffs. But again, I haven't seen them much this season.

Sheahan should be a regular for the remainder of this season. He and Jurco would be a nasty anchor for the third line. I hope, by some miracle Holland can clear some dead wood at the trade deadline but I'm not holding my breath.

What's the over/under on how many times Torts calls Hartley "gutless" in the post game presser? Also, this is all totally stupid, serves no purpose, and makes me want to puke. If fans want drama, there are all sorts of tv shows and movies to watch.

Jurco and Sheahan rule. Trade Nyquist, move Tatar up, and keep Sheahan and Jurco on the third line.

So, can we all agree to never ***** about the officials robbing the Wings again?

I will absolutely, positively, 100%, take it.

What the f*** just happened?!

Dude, it was the penalty kill. With Ericsson in hurt and kronwall in the box who else do you put out there?

awesome.

Drew Doughty is a bawl baby. I've always rooted against him.