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The same reason we suck so frequently the rest of the time, because we've got two legitimate talents and a ton of mediocre hacks or rookies filling out our lineup?

Ugh.

I said barely .500, he's played with Zetterberg for exactly one and a half games (I said MOST nights he plays with zero talent, and he's been double teamed all year. Not a lot to be excited about with this team, for fans or players. Unless Franzen getting moved to center and "hustling" is now excitement worthy.

Didn't realize we didn't count overtime losses as losses anymore...we're 19-19 counting those .

I didn't hear the comment, but I agree with the sentiment. Not a lot for Pavel to be excited about these days...barely .500 team, zero talent to play with most nights, constant double teams, and insane expectations of him. If it wasn't already, I'd imagine Pavel's decision to go back to Russia gets easier by the game.

That's not true, Brendan Smith turns the puck over for goals constantly and most people around here are still up his ass. I think he's got the best point shot of any of the defensemen to be honest.

I know it has nothing to do with today's game, but Ovechkin scored three more goals last night. That dude is returning to monster form after people had been writing him off for a couple seasons.

Haha. Most of us are in America bud, a "26" has absolutely no meaning on this side of the border. I presume you mean the equivalent of what we call a "fifth" over here. Or is this some sort of metric thing? Wouldn't want to have more than one tough guy in any given game now would we?

Same Defense huh? Babs must not remember the third period from the last game.

The only fight I've ever seen Sheahan in didn't go so well for him, so I hope they weren't thinking that. Then again, Babs does love to try and make guys into something they aren't so that might be his goal here too.

Check out the Malik report for details on this move. He's got a good recap. The only reason the move was made is because GR was playing in Vancouver and IF one of the Wings couldn't go on Sunday there wouldn't be enough time to get someone back from B.C. It's a purely precautionary move on Holland's part.

Can't wait for another "grab a spot and take hold of it" quote from Babs.

I understand what you're saying and share your concerns. I too think that Smith has been abysmal on defense this year. I only commented to say that it's sad how far we've fallen when our options come down to speculating on moving a bad defenseman to forward. But I guess that's the situation we're in until this summer (at the earliest) and I don't see it changing so I guess I'm just going to have to live with it. That and wonder how the hell it came to this.

Agreed. Kinda sad that our season pretty much rests on getting help from four other teams. Not exactly what I was hoping for coming into this season.

Ugh, St. Louis, San Jose, and Chicago our next three games. Not looking good. If we don't play any better than we have been the last few games we might be in a world of hurt really soon.

I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying. We are terrible at putting players in a position to succeed. Certainly Nyquist is more skilled than most of our players. And definitely Franzen, Clearly, Abby, (and I'd add Filppula) don't create any offense either. What I'm saying is that whether Nyquist is in the lineup or not won't matter because our entire team is made up of guys who can't take a game over, minus Dats and Z. If teams can stop them then we lose. Look at last night. We played a horrible team, and yet got dominated for much of the game. We won (barely) because Datsyuk and Zetterberg rose to the occasion. Nyquist had a nice goal for sure, but our season hangs on whether D or Z can win a game for us. Hell even the s***ty Colorado announcers accurately spelled out our game plan. Late in the game they said, "Detroit is just looking to hang on until overtime and then put the game on Datsyuk and Zetterberg's shoulders", which is exactly what we did. I'm glad it worked out, but it won't against good team. So, for the millionth time...Nyquist is a good player, maybe one day he'll be a game changer, but he's not right now and therefore having him in the top six or not will make no difference as far as how well this team performs this season.

I cannot believe we're talking about the Detroit Red Wings and our options for how to not suck involve moving Smith to forward and Franzen to center, Flip to wing, and Abby to whatever, etc. etc. etc. I"m as bummed about this team as I've been in a long time. It's ******* obvious that we simply don't have enough competitive hockey players on a nightly basis, yet rather than get any (for three years in a row) we'd rather retread old guys, move guys away from their natural positions, and call up the youngsters (all at one, and for only a few games at a time). Oh I forgot...and then we wait, and hope, and pray, that our saving grace will come back to us. "Darren Helm is our deadline acquisition". Right. Can't wait for that offensive dynamo to kickstart this team.

It's almost like they each played as if they had a legitimate top sixer to play with.

Well glad to see we got the points, but man did the Avalanche ever take it to us in the third.

Colorado announcer talking about "Kronwall always looking for the dirty hit". Nice.

He looks heavier than 190 lbs. too.

Yeah my streams are s*** too. Anyone wanna PM me a message relating to my problem but not expressly endorsing live streaming?

Knowing Babcock he'll do something asinine like make Hank the center and put Pav on the wing or something like that.

I sort of just miss having you know...actual top four talent...in the top four. Didn't Meat Loaf sing a song about 1 outta 4 ain't bad or something?

Leaving our second line as what, Flip, Franzen, Cleary? Swap Cleary with Brunner when he's healthy and it's worth a shot. Nothing else is doing anything.