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Yeah I know, because his screen on the first goal, and assist on the second one didn't factor in at all. You don't have to like the guy, but your absurd dislike for him is become obnoxious. You can't even give him credit when he clearly deserves it. Would you have preferred he didn't screen the goal or draw the defense and make the pass on the second one?

Smith wasn't pinching on that goal. He was back, and got burned...bad.

The goal scorer was Smith's guy, not Quincey's.

Last game, not tonight. Get over it.

Give me a break guys, that contact was incidental. He didn't have his hands on him at all. We all know Quincey played bad last game, but stop with the scapegoating already.

I completely agree, and I also don't think that the defense is set in stone either. The more problematic it is the earlier Holland will address it, but either way I think he makes some changes before the deadline.

Completely dominated play in the first. Something like a 15-4 shot differential. Hit the post three times. Tootoo fought Jared Boll 3 seconds into the game. No score yet, but a much better outing than saturday.

All the more reason why he needs to be carrying the puck more.

I agree, and once you have Helm and Bert back they should really get rocking. Defense is still scary, but playing better tonight...except for the two or three odd man rushes that thankfully didn't hurt us.

Smith?

Having Datsyuk on the wing is killing me. He's not a shooter and he's a better passer than Zetterberg. He's completely wasted on the wing. Switch them or split them up Babs! All in all good period though. I liked Abby, Brunner, and Tootoo. Lashoff looked decent as well.

Why is one of the best playmaking centers in the league playing the wing?

Fair enough, as I said, time will tell.

Well I'll definitely agree with you about the Lindback move, that was a good one. Had he not filled his glaring hole at goalie my case for Yzerman as a not very good GM would be all but airtight. Time will tell with Stevie Y, but given his track record with scouting, drafting, and developing players I think Jim Nill is MUCH more qualified for the position when Ken Holland retires, and the every available fact seems to back that up.

No they don't have an internal salary floor in Tampa. Their payroll is higher than the Red Wings. http://www.capgeek.com/ And what does Jim Nill have to do to deserve a little credit? I mean what has that guy ever done aside from play a primary role in scouting, drafting, and developing every Red Wings prospect since 1994 in his role as director of amateur scouting; the list of which includes Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Filppula, Franzen, Kronwall, Smith, Nyquist, Helm, Abdelkader, etc. Yeah, Yzerman is obviously the better choice.

By not making the playoffs last season in spite of inheriting a team with 4 of its top six forwards in place AND its franchise defenseman? Or by signing Matt Carle and Sami Salo to contracts that pretty much everyone around LGW agreed were horrible? Yzerman stepped on to a team that already had St. Louis, Stamkos, Lecavalier, Ryan Malone, and Victor Hedman. His primary acquisitions thus far have been Carle, Salo, Simon Gagne, Dwayne Roloson, and Benoit Pouliot. Two of which don't play there anymore. Again, he's got a long way to go before anyone can consider him a top GM in this league, and longer to go before he's qualified to be the GM of the Red Wings.

No matter what huh? Shouldn't being a good GM matter at least a little bit? A good player doesn't equal a good manager necessarily. Ask Gretskzy. I'd prefer Yzerman show he's capable of winning in the NHL before jumping on his bandwagon, but that's just me. Also, how hard was it to pick this team: Goaltenders Martin Brodeur, 37 (New Jersey Devils) Roberto Luongo, 30 (Vancouver Canucks) Marc-Andre Fleury, 25 (Pittsburgh Penguins) Defense Scott Niedermayer, 36 (Anaheim Ducks) Chris Pronger, 35 (Philadelphia Flyers) Shea Weber, 24 (Nashville Predators) Drew Doughty, 20 (Los Angeles Kings) Duncan Keith 26 (Chicago Blackhawks) Dan Boyle, 33 (San Jose Sharks) Brent Seabrook, 24 (Chicago Blackhawks) Forwards Sidney Crosby, 21 (Pittsburgh Penguins) Rick Nash, 25 (Columbus Blue Jackets) Jarome Iginla, 32 (Calgary Flames) Mike Richards, 25 (Philadelphia Flyers) Joe Thornton, 30 (San Jose Sharks) Patrick Marleau, 30 (San Jose Sharks) Ryan Getzlaf, 24 (Anaheim Ducks) Brenden Morrow, 31 (Dallas Stars) Corey Perry, 24 (Anaheim Ducks) Dany Heatley, 29 (San Jose Sharks) Eric Staal, 25 (Carolina Hurricanes) Patrice Bergeron, 25 (Boston Bruins) Jonathan Toews, 21 (Chicago Blackhawks) Edit: If you think it was tough to put this team together here's an interesting tidbit...About.com picked the exact same team with two exceptions. Martin St. Louis instead of Patrice Bergeron, and Jay Bouwmeester instead of Drew Doughty. Hmmm.

I was just getting ready to say that we'll see a fight tonight. Pumped.

Steve Yzerman will not be the next GM of the Detroit Red Wings...Jim Nill will. Yzerman would actually need to win something before being handed the helm of one of the NHL's premier teams.

Same as before, with Eaves in for Mursak. Ericsson is a GTD, so we don't know on that yet.

He makes less than a million per year and his contract is only through the end of this season...now I'd definitely claim him.

I know, that was my point.

If Bert is really going to be gone for a prolonged period of time I'd claim him in a heartbeat.

Good point, Franzen hardly ever scores.

well I actually think that CBJ will be a better team this year, and will steal quite a lot of games from under performing or under prepared teams. I hope we don't fall into either category tonight. 2-1 Detroit. Franzen and Miller.