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If he's ready, sure. If not, I'm more than okay with him spending a full season in Grand Rapids (hopefully) or Mannheim... I'm not too concerned about the 9 games though. If a player is ready, I'm fine with burning a year off the ELC. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of having a top pair of Cholowski - Seider in GR for a season though...

Isn't that what everyone wants though? Dress the best lineup every night, regardless of how long a player has been with the team or how much money they're making... I'm sure Ericsson will see plenty of games this season anyway, with Green and Daley still on the roster, awaiting injuries... My ideal defense for this season would be... DeKeyser - Green Nemeth - Hronek Cholowski - Bowey Ericsson Daley traded I'm okay with Cholowski getting big minutes in Grand Rapids, but would still prefer him in Detroit this season.

Prospects Tournament starts tomorrow night at 7:00pm EST vs. Chicago! Myself and @ely s have been chatting in the "Prospects" thread, but thought I'd add it here as well...

Yeah, apparently Soderblom and Berglund were granted permission to play because their season in Frolunda doesn't start until September 11th (the day after the tournament ends). They will likely fly back to Sweden right after the tournament finishes up, next Tuesday...

I'm pretty sure all the games will be broadcasted live on DetroitRedWings.com / FoxSportsDetroit / Facebook / YouTube. That's what they did for Development Camp anyway...

My list was somewhat accurate, but I was off on a few players. I thought they might want to have a longer look at Svechnikov, Rasmussen and / or Cholowski, but I guess they're going to wait until training camp / pre-season to evaluate them. I'm surprised Cooper Moore and Carter Gylander were left off the roster though. A few players I purposely overlooked were Troy Loggins, Jarid Lukosevicius and Alec McCrea, only because I thought they were a little old (24) to be included in a "prospect" tournament... I've never heard of Sean Romeo or Anthony Popovich, but I guess we needed another goalie with Gylander not attending. Kind of surprised to see Soderblom and Berglund on the roster, but it will be good to get another look at a couple late rounders from this past draft.

Tournament starts tomorrow and still no Red Wings roster released. As far as I know, all 7 of the other teams have released their rosters...

Puljujarvi is worth a 3rd round pick... Yeah, okay...

139 NHL games is a LOT for a 21 year old. He's still very young, and with a change of scenery, he could possibly find his game again. Again, he doesn't suck. Far from it. The skill is there, it's just a matter of a team / coach helping him fulfill that potential. Something tells me Svechnikov wouldn't have scored as much as Puljujarvi, since he's never been more productive at any point in his career... Yeah, players are never mismanaged or underutilized... Never happens... Let me ask you this... Why do you think Holland is asking for such a huge return for a player that clearly blows, to everyone but me? Do you think he would trade Puljujarvi straight up for Svechnikov?

LOL I knew you were going to bring up Jurco and / or Smith. I actually had it typed out, but erased it. It's your only argument against me. "Remember that time you were way off on a player's development? Yeah, your opinion doesn't mean s***"... kipwinger - Puljujarvi is a "hack with a bad attitude". eliteprospects - Puljujarvi has a "great work ethic and positive attitude". Puljujarvi has better points per game than Svechnikov at every level, and is a year and a half younger. You're right though, terrible trade...

ProspectsTournamentSchedule.img First game is this Friday at 7:00pm EST!!!

At this point, I consider both Svechnikov and Puljujarvi to be "boom or bust" prospects. I think Svechnikov has a higher floor (3rd line winger) and lower ceiling (2nd line winger), while Puljujarvi has a lower floor (bust) and higher ceiling (1st line winger). I'd personally prefer to take the gamble on the higher ceiling player, even if he could potentially bust. Puljujarvi does not "suck". He's a very skilled player that has been thrown into a s*** situation, way too early in his career. Maybe the mismanagement in Edmonton has already ruined Puljujarvi. Maybe the ACL injuries and key developmental years lost has already ruined Svechnikov. Who knows... But I'd make that trade one for one without thinking twice. Unfortunately, Holland wouldn't make that trade though, and for good reason. At this point, Puljujarvi is still the better prospect.

So pumped to see Seider. You're from Germany aren't you? I assume you've probably seen more of him than most of us here. Where would you like to see him play this season (selfish reasons aside)?

No, I'm not 100% sure, but I know a lot of the European leagues have already started, or will be starting very soon. I would assume if their club has already started league games, they wouldn't likely come over for what is a pretty meaningless tournament. In year's past I don't recall any European's coming over for the Prospects Tournament, unless they're already slated to play in North America. A player that may be on the cusp of making the Red Wings would play in the tournament, but a player like Grewe, who is likely at least a couple years away, I would think would be better served playing meaningful games with Djurgardens. I don't know anything about Bergmann, but he is an older player (21 next month), so maybe they think he has a shot to make the Sharks or Barracuda.

No.

He's now an "Adviser to the General Manager"? Interesting...

Great career Nik. Happy to see him hanging them up though.

We can always speculate who will be on the Prospect Tournament roster for something to talk about... The roster should include most of our prospects, not including the ones playing in College / Europe. Players that are excluded... College Patrick Holway (Merrimack - NCAA) Kasper Kotkansalo (Boston - NCAA) Keith Petruzzelli (Quinnipiac - NCAA) Jack Adams (Union - NCAA) *injured* Seth Barton (Lowell - NCAA) Ryan O'Reilly (Green Bay - USHL) Robert Mastrosimone (Boston - NCAA) Ethan Phillips (Boston - NCAA) Europe Malte Setkov (Malmo - SHL) Jonatan Berggren (Skelleftea - SHL) Jesper Eliasson (Almtuna - Allsvenskan) Victor Brattstrom (Timra - Allsvenskan) Otto Kivenmaki (Assat - Liiga) Antti Tuomisto (Assat - Junior Liiga) Albert Johansson (Farjestad - SHL) Albin Grewe (Djurgardens - SHL) Elmer Soderblom (Frolunda - SuperElit) Gustav Berglund (Frolunda - SuperElit) Kirill Tyutyayev (Avto Yekaterinburg - MHL) Players that are eligible... Forwards Taro Hirose (Detroit - NHL / Grand Rapids - AHL) *maybe* Ryan Kuffner (Grand Rapids - AHL) Evgeny Svechnikov (Detroit - NHL / Grand Rapids - AHL) *maybe* Chase Pearson (Grand Rapids - AHL) Gregor MacLeod (Grand Rapids - AHL) Givani Smith (Grand Rapids - AHL) Michael Rasmussen (Detroit - NHL / Grand Rapids - AHL) *maybe* Filip Zadina (Detroit - NHL / Grand Rapids - AHL) Joe Veleno (Detroit - NHL / Grand Rapids - AHL) Thomas Casey (Charlottetown - QMJHL) - Free Agent Development Camp Invitee Chad Yetman (Erie - OHL) - Free Agent Development Camp Invitee Owen Robinson (Sudbury- OHL) - Free Agent Development Camp Invitee Mathieu Bizier (Gatineau - QMJHL) - Free Agent Development Camp Invitee Cody Morgan (Flint - OHL) - Free Agent Development Camp Invitee Defensemen Charle-Edouard D'Astous (Toledo - ECHL / Grand Rapids - AHL) Dennis Cholowski (Detroit - NHL / Grand Rapids - AHL) *maybe* Gustav Lindstrom (Grand Rapids - AHL) Jared McIsaac (Halifax - QMJHL) *injured* Alec Regula (London - OHL) Moritz Seider (Detroit - NHL / Grand Rapids - AHL / Mannheim - DEL) Cooper Moore (Chilliwack - BCHL) Marc-Olivier Duquette (Drummondville - QMJHL) - Free Agent Development Camp Invitee Owen Lalonde (Guelph OHL) - Free Agent Development Camp Invitee Goaltenders Filip Larsson (Grand Rapids - AHL) Kaden Fulcher (Toledo - ECHL / Grand Rapids - AHL) Carter Gylander (Sherwood Park - AJHL) All these players won't be on the roster, but this should at least give us a pretty good idea who *might* be on the roster...

Yeah, I'd do it. Although I think it would cost a lot more than Svechnikov to get that deal done...

Good idea. I've actually never seen him play... Have you?