krsmith17

I "liked" your post, but just to make it clear, I don't "like" it, I just agree...

Yes. Now he should trade Puljujarvi for the $5.25M top six center he signed for too much for too long...

EVERYTHING!!! Nah, at that point I'd hope LA take one of the big centers from the Dub, and Byram drops to us at 6. If not, take best player available.

BPA = Best Player Available. No team should have 6-7 best players on their list... Sure, there are going to be really good players at 10 and later, but I'm of the opinion that we need to take the best player available, unless a team is willing to massively overpay...

Unless Yzerman and his scouts legitimately believe that Soderstrom / Seider / Broberg is the best player on the board, and knows they would be available at 10, it would be a mistake in my opinion. I just don't see Yzerman drafting for need. It's never been his M.O. We need elite talent, quality over quantity. Take best player available.

JD Burke - "Source" has informed him that it's more so Yzerman that wants to move down, than Benning wanting to move up. Yzerman initiated contact... - I bet... JDB - Yzerman wants to draft for need (a defenseman), and wants to move back to take a Soderstrom or Seider... - Yzerman has stressed BPA. That hasn't changed... JDB - There's a chance that Byram could fall to 6... - In which case, Yzerman would never trade the pick... JDB - Byram, Turcotte or Zegras would be Benning's target... - Byram and Turcotte are all but guaranteed to be gone top 5. Zegras is 50/50... JDB - The Red Wings are looking good on the left side of their defense with Cholowski and Hronek, which is why they might be interested in one of the righties... - Hronek is a righty, you idiot! JDB - If Byram or Turcotte are available, Canucks would have to pay a premium... - Well, no s***! JDB - Canucks could use Jett Woo, or late round picks as sweeteners... - LOL WTF??? JDB - Red Wings prospect pool is poor, due to lack of picks over the past few years... - Yeah, this guy is a complete ass hat...

Who is this guy? Is there any truth to Yzerman wanting to move down? I sure hope not...

Yes.

Yes, but I don't think Vancouver would.

That's my f***ing point... No one said any of these "asks" are reasonable. How often do you think trade talks get nixed because the ask is too high? All. the. f***ing. time... If we wanted to move up to 3 or 4 to draft Byram. The ask might be our 6th plus Hronek. Would we do it? Hell no! But why would they ask for anything less? I'm sure they're quite content to make their pick, just like I'm sure Yzerman will be content to make his pick at 6. Unless, his target is Podkolzin or Broberg, which I highly doubt is the case...

Literally no one is / was talking about this scenario other than you. The rest of us are talking about IF Yzerman's target is Zegras for example, he knows he won't be available at 10, so he's not going to trade back to get what he believes is a lesser player, for an additional 40th overall pick. That would be dumb. The only way he would consider a trade back in THIS scenario is if he gets massively overpaid by way of a top player / prospect. None of us think that it's realistic to expect a Boeser or Hughes, but unless we're getting a huge return like that, we're not interested in moving back. They're the ones that want to move up, which means we're in the drivers seat... And by the way, when I mentioned Boeser, I was referring to some sort of bigger trade. Maybe 6 and Athanasiou for 10 and Boeser...

Well, no s***... I was obviously basing my comment on the player(s) I would be targeting at 6th overall. And none of the players I would be targeting would be available at 10th overall... so no deal. IF Yzerman wants Podkolzin it would be a smart trade. If not, it would be dumb...

Both of us acknowledged that it wouldn't happen. We're just saying that if the Canucks truly want the 6th overall pick, they would have to be willing to massively overpay. I wouldn't do it for the 40th overall pick, because the players I want wouldn't be available at 10. You're one of the few people that think Podkolzin would be BPA at 6, so it would make sense why you would make that trade, since it's a high probability that he will be available at 10. If Benning wants to move up 4 spots in the top 10, he would have to pay. Of course we're not getting Boeser or Hughes in any sort of package, but anything short of that, f*** off. We'll keep our pick.

For the most part, yeah I agree with this. I do think a high-end caliber player will be available at 10, but yeah, that's around where you'll see a bit of a drop off I think.

It would have to be a significant return for me to consider trading down to 10 from 6. Their 2nd round pick wouldn't come close. There's no way they would include Boeser in a package, but that's about the only way I'd be willing to trade back there... You can't have those three highly skilled French Canadians on a team and not put them all on the same line... and with all that talent, Bertuzzi has no business being on the top line...

He also looked very good in at least 4 or 5 of those 9 games. I seen two of those games live (in Tampa / Sunrise) and he looked great in the game against Tampa. No one looked good in the game against Florida... But hey, mackel seen him play in Halifax a couple years ago, so he knows better than any of us...

What's your point? Are you saying that Yzerman should have signed Mantha and Athanasiou to extensions 2 years ago, while he was still the general manager of the Tampa Bay Lightning? I 100% agree with what you're saying here, it just has nothing to do with what we were originally talking about... GM's absolutely should lock their star players up long-term before their ELC's are up. However, it's a negotiation between player and general manager, so sometimes the GM's hands are tied. Holland wanted to sign Mantha long-term, but Mantha didn't want to. He instead bet on himself to put up a couple 30 goal seasons. He scored at a 30 goal pace last season, and I'm sure he will better than this season. Holland was smart to get him to the final year of RFA though, so he (now Yzerman) still has the upper hand in negotiations. I agree with the bold.

Yeah, I'd also add that it may take Rasmussen a little longer than some of our other prospects to fully develop. It sometimes takes the big "power-forward" types a little longer to find their game at the NHL level. Look at Mantha. He's 24, and only now coming into his own. I wasn't thrilled with the Rasmussen pick, and wasn't overly impressed with him this season, but I'm definitely willing to give him another year or two to see how he progresses.

I'll give you Rasmussen, although I'm still hoping I was wrong on that one. But Zadina will prove to be a big hit in due time. Let's not get into that again though... We absolutely need to hit on this pick though, along with our three 2nd rounders.

There's not too many players I'd be too upset about taking at 6 at the moment. Dach is probably at the bottom of my list, but I wouldn't hate adding him either. A lot of people thinking he could be our pick. I can get behind it.

Honestly, could be a great signing for Holland. I f***ing hate Corey f***ing Perry, but even at the age of 34, he can still be a productive player in the right system. He's one season removed from being an annual 50+ point producer. Throw him on McDavid's wing and I don't doubt for a second that he could put up 25+ goals, 50+ points again.