krsmith17

I expected Gagner back. Solid veteran depth. But yeah, likely (hopefully not) no(t much) sizzle for us today... Add another veteran LHD to battle with DeKeyser for third pairing minutes, and that's about it, besides our RFA's and Glendening...

"I wouldn't really read into anything I do (say)" -Stephen Gregory Yzerman

Interesting that they have all three of "Marcus" Raymond, Berggren and Veleno on their projected lineup...

Suter could be a good fit behind Larkin. Former linemate of Bertuzzi and Fabbri in Guelph...

You're the one that brought it up again dumbass...

Absolutely not. You're the one that brought it up... I'm just glad you admitted backpedaling off your original stance... Good for you.

It wasn't always "relative to expectations". You often flat out said "Zadina is a bust". But regardless, even "relative to expectations", I still don't think Zadina will be a "bust". I still think Zadina will be a quality top six (at worst middle six) winger. You're not very often getting an elite top line winger, even at 6th overall. Those guys are usually top 3-5 picks. The elite guys selected outside the top 3-5 that are elite, are the exception, not the norm... Sure. But what are we going to get with all of that wheelin' and dealin'? Jake Bean, a former 13th overall pick that was progressing quite nicely, just got traded for a 2nd round pick... Let's pretend Buium can reach that same level in 5 years (I doubt it). We flip him for a 2nd round pick. Not really worth it, is it?

Absolutely. And don't get me wrong, I'm not too upset with the pick. It was just a little confusing to me. The trade up two spots to get a player that was a bit "off the board". The quality forwards that were dropping (maybe for good reason, but maybe not...). The crazy depth we have in that one position...

Funny, but not at all accurate. If you had said "Zadina should have been drafted much lower", I wouldn't have said much. My issue was with you (and mackel) saying that he was a bust the day he was drafted. I'm sure you and many others would have plenty to say to me, if today and every day for the next three years, I was saying "EdViNsSoN iS a BuSt"... And rightfully so... Also, I'm not the one that comes running (is triggered) every time Zadina is mentioned, that's you and mackel...

Which is what I like about Yzerman's drafting philosophy. I just find it hard to see Buium jumping three of the top four or five guys on that left side depth chart. I could be 100% wrong, and maybe he turns out to be an absolute steal, but we can still have opinions on these kids, even if it is based on limited information. Me too. I'm sure glad I wasn't one of the dummies that thought that...

You should never draft purely on need, especially in the top 10. But I've said many times, need should come into play. As should handedness, size, speed, etc. Yzerman echoed this in his presser as well. IF Yzerman and co. think Buium was far and away the best player available, no forward was close, then sure, it was a good pick. I just don't see that. We'll see... It's crazy when people think you can't question a single thing a general manager, scout, coach does because they're "professionals". If you do, you think you're "smarter"... "Smh"... Fans are allowed to have opinions. I "trust the Yzerplan". That doesn't mean I have to blindly trust everything he does... Nor should you... It's not even like I'm overly upset with the pick. I just think there were better options available. I'll bet at least one (maybe all three) of Raty, Pinelli, Stankoven will be bigger impact players at the NHL level than Buium.

I'd say it's more likely that neither ever make the NHL... I'm not as high on Tuomisto as others, but he doesn't exactly have a lot of competition on that right side (as of now). He basically just needs to beat out Lindstrom and maybe Berglund or Barton at this point. Buium on the other hand, needs to beat out three of Edvinsson, Johansson, Wallinder, Viro, McIsaac, Sebrango... That's why this pick was so puzzling to me. When we traded up, I thought for sure it was for a forward. I think any one of Raty, Pinelli, Stankoven (among others) would have been a much smarter pick in that spot. Buium could be a good depth guy, but if there's one area we're strong in terms of depth, it's LD.

Wow, the insecurity is real with this one...

I ws really hoping he was the player we were trading up for at 36. Really didn't expect him to get out of the first round, let alone 52...

The ONLY excitement was the 4th round pick... Red Mother F***ing Savage is going to be a legend in Detroit!

Redmond Savage. Best Red Wings name ever. Really hope this kid pans out... No. He wasn't at all...

Sure, but the same can be said about our forwards as well... All of these prospects are question marks. Stankoven to Dallas...

I get you're intended point, but some of us definitely know SOMETHING about SOME of these players. Just not THIS play. I've never heard of him. I wanted one of the three forwards I listed above, but it's strange they're all still dropping...

I'm all about best player available, regardless of position, but this one is strange. They must have been really high on him, but you'd have to think he would have been available at 38...

I find it hard to understand this one. Why move up 2 spots to take a kid projected to go 30+ picks later? So many good forwards on the board, and you take ANOTHER defenseman?...

Another trade up... Pinelli? Stankoven? Raty?... WHO?

Raty and Stankoven still available...

I would have preferred Eklund and Wallstedt, but definitely don't hate either of the picks. Eklund was my favorite player going into the draft, but I like Edvinsson. I'm not sold on Cossa. Would have liked any of the number of forwards available (some STILL available...). Like I said though, I completely trust Yzerman.