krsmith17

Damn autocorrect. I'm sure you meant "right" way... Yeah, the whole children's hospital thing still gets to me. What is he trying to prove donating $10M to sick children? You know it's just a publicity stunt. Guy is as arrogant as they come...

Latest I heard on Foo was Edmonton are front runners, but I think the Oil are being thrown out there as front runners for just about every player right now. I think he would be a great add for a team that lacks center depth, in particular right handed centers.

I know right? What kind of clown dances during warmups? He needs to get his head in the game. 10 points in 16 games? Pfff he'd have a lot more if he wasn't so busy trying to be a crowd pleaser. Maybe then he'd be a half decent hockey player. Get your head in the game you f***ing CLOWN!!!

I wouldn't bank on that. I hope we trade him for a 1st round pick at or before the deadline, but I wouldn't be at all shocked if we re-sign him before then. And honestly, I would much prefer have Green at a similar deal, 2-3 years at $5-6M, than Shattenkirk at 5-7 years at $7+M...

Shattenkirk is going to get MASSIVELY overpaid and the last thing this team needs is another bad contract. In my opinion he is a very good 2nd pairing defenseman / power-play quarterback. He's not a legit top pair guy. No thanks!

Long weekend got you screwed up too? Today is Tuesday and game 7 (if Ottawa wins tonight) will be Thursday. But yeah, I agree, the finals should start Saturday at the latest.

Yeah, it would be a shocker if Patrick / Hischier didn't go one / two, but as we seen last year with Dubois going 3rd ahead of Puljujarvi, anything is possible. I don't want any part of moving up in this year's draft. It's very possible that one of Glass, Suzuki or Tippett will be available at 9, and if they're not I'd be completely okay with moving back a few spots and picking up another 2nd to take one of Liljegren or Foote. I'd like some sort of scenario where we could trade back to around 14th and pick up another 2nd, and then trade one of our 2nd's and one or two of our 3rd's to pick up another 1st... We end up with two 1st's, one 2nd and two 3rd's...

This one's done. 4-2 empty netter by our old friend Barclay Goodrow...

I've been impressed with Sambrook in the few games I've seen. I've only seen one game of Cholowski with the Griffins a few weeks ago, and he looked decent for his first game pro. I've seen a few of both Hronek and Saarijarvi and I like what I see with both. I agree that Hicketts should be in the discussion as well. He's probably the defenseman I'm highest on in the system. Kid comes to play every night, and is an absolute warrior. No one tell him he's only 5'8", because I'm sure he has no idea. Plays like he's 6'4", and hits like a ton of bricks. I thought that might come to a halt once he turned pro, but if anything I think he's become even more aggressive and uses his body more. It will be interesting to see if he's able to play the same game in the NHL though... Again though, I'd be surprised if any become top pair at the NHL level, and completely shocked if any become a legit number one...

NM

I just watched the first period without audio... If anyone knows of a stream with working audio, hit me up. Thanks!

Round 3 starts tonight! Unfortunately I missed most of the 2nd round because I was down south. Can't wait for this one. Go Griffins!

I don't know about that... For me anyway, and I know some others as well, seen it more as Sproul being the only guy with top pair potential. Ouellet and Jensen as bottom 4 guys and Marchenko as a bottom pair guy. And honestly, not much has changed for me, except for Sproul, unless he can get out of Detroit... I see all as middle pairing guys at the NHL level. Maybe one might surprise and become and solid number two, but I highly doubt any develop into the stud number one we so badly need.

No, I don't see him as a number one. More of a DeKeyser type, middle pairing guy. Why does left handed matter though? We're loaded with righties. Green is the only player that can be considered a top pair guy, and he's a righty. We also have Jensen, Sproul, Russo and Hronek, Saarijarvi, Sambrook and McIlrath in the pipeline. Handedness shouldn't be too much of a priority, but the way things are shaping up, I'd almost prefer a lefty for the top pair...

This! Larkin and Mantha are on my "untouchable list"... Of course I'd trade both in a heartbeat for Scheifele and Seguin, but that just isn't going to happen. There is not a single player in the league that is "untouchable" in the true sense of the word (even McDavid), but when talking realistic trades that actually could happen, there absolutely should be "untouchables".

I've never said Smith was "untouchable". I never even said that he was a top pair defenseman, just that he had top 4 potential. He reached that potential. He is a top 4 defenseman. Jurco was extremely misused here and I believe that stunted his growth and he never got back on track. Maybe he became exactly what he was going to become, a complete bust. Whatever. You're right though, I do like certain players, and there are players that I'd like us to keep / go after. You base your opinion solely on stats / numbers? You completely block out any personal bias? That's impressive, you'd make a great GM. I'm a fan. I do fan things. You get upset when people do fan things... By the way, I never once said that I would part with Svechnikov or Mantha or anyone else. I would have to think long and hard about it, but it would be a tough decision for sure. I would like to use one of Nyquist or Tatar or literally any defenseman in our system in a trade for a top pair defenseman. I've also mentioned several other defensemen I'd love to go after, and said it's very unlikely we have a shot at Trouba, so don't act as if I'm saying it's Trouba or bust...

Why would we spend time talking about players that haven't been rumored to be available though? There are 30+ defensemen in the league better than Trouba that no one ever mentions because there is literally zero chance any of them get moved. The reason people talk about Trouba so much is because he's a local kid that would love to play for his hometown Red Wings. He was unhappy playing in Winnipeg (maybe that has changed), and there is a good chance that when he becomes a free agent, he would look long and hard at Detroit as a possible destination. Of course people "want" the best defensemen, but the best defensemen just aren't available. If Orlov were being shopped, of course people would want him. Do you think because people keep bringing up Trouba, they think he's a top 10 defenseman in the league, and would choose him over Karlsson, Hedman, Doughty, etc? Hell no. It's simply because even though it is very unlikely, there is an ever so slight possibility we could pry him out of Winnipeg. There's zero chance we could ever pry any of the aforementioned defensemen out of their respective cities. But for what it's worth Trouba >>> Orlov & Shattenkirk. If for no other reason, age.

Two of the best teams in the league at drafting / developing defensemen... Coincidence?

What it would cost to get Landeskog definitely wouldn't be worth it for us. Not to mention the fact that left wing is basically our only area of strength (aside from goaltender).

Who wants to "draft non-impact players and sign ECHL equivalent players" and what players are you talking about???

Foote for me.

Preds steal game 1!

You mean a trade?... You're right that we can only lose one in the expansion draft, but of course we can get Vegas or any team to take any bad contract. Ideal situation, we throw a 3rd Vegas' way to get them to take one of Howard / Ericsson, and make a deal to get them or another team to take the other...

I still want a forward (preferably center / preferably right handed) with our 1st rounder, and take a bunch of defensemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds... I'd also like to see us add another 1st or 2nd using roster players / prospects or other draft picks.

Your proposed trade is out of the question though. Sure someone could be dumb enough to do it, but no NHL GM would be dumb enough to do it. What would your reaction be if Holland decided to trade Larkin and our 15th overall pick to move up 6 spots to 9th, in hopes that we get a player as good as Larkin?