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Maybe he will maybe he wont , i dont give a s*** about player pts in la liiga cause im sure you pop up names with just as good numbers or better who havent worked out in the nhl . I think he can play in the league just not sold on him being a top guy Why wouldnt AA bounce back in detroit ? 2 seasons prior he was on pace for 22-25 goals , its not that big of a stretch to think he can get 25-30 playing top 2 lines with guys who have actual talent and being flip flipped with the the likes of helm,glendening etc... you said a year from now he might be off the board cause he might have established himself on another team ... i just said good on him and if he was available a year from now after being on another team id have zero interest . If hes dealt to another team and becomes a 3rd line guy good on him , i wont lose any sleep over not landing him right now id hang on to AA going into next season and be more concerned with somehow ridding ourselves of some of the nielsens/helms/abdelkader/perlini etc...

Sorry ... “ages ago” better now? f***en christ sure we wouldnt look like morons ... not many 3rd liners popping 50 pts , incase you havent noticed not too many players on this roster who are gonna pop 50 a year Ya sure the book is out on him ,but it wont be in edm or elsewhere ? Dude incase you havent noticed alot of players numbers this year are way down on our roster this season its ridiculous to write off the guy for having one bad stretch this year where our coach has rotated him with the likes of glendening,helm, etc... fact of the matter is you’d do this deal and you think it would be a great deal and worth the risk , good on ya thats your prerogative. I disagree with you and wouldnt do this trade . Fini

I cant remember man it was a while back , could have been dreger, mckenzie etc ... i heard it on tv when talking about puljujarvi trade stuff and how his development hasnt gone the way people expected and how hes likely gonna be a 3rd liner now Well i know if AA went to edm id bet $ he bounces back, if Puljujarvi is on another team and available again a year from now id have zero interest at that point . Its all good you guys would do it , i wouldnt ... i cant see edmonton getting a player who had 30 goals the year before with upside to rebound , right now it would probably be a similar prospect who hasnt exceeded expectations ... svechnikov + comes to mind off the bat but hes 2 years older so it wouldnt get it done anyways i wouldnt do this move now as puljujarvi cant play till next year so by keeping AA an extra 6-7 weeks id he gets it going and gets multiple goal games he might find himself close to 20 all of a sudden and his value higher than just a puljujarvi by draft weekend .... im in no hurry to deal him Dude you can bring up anything you want from whatever you said 3 years ago ... im responding to it cause ive been seeing that guy go on for weeks about AA to edm . Nothing to do with you We’d look like f***en morons if AA goes to edm and pops 40 and puljuarvi is on a 3rd line with filppula Anyways a trade makes sense for you and you’d do a 1 for 1 deal . Thats cool, i wouldnt do it . Thats it thats all

Even if he doesnt reach 30 there’s no way he’d get under 10 . What if he goes to edm where the likely scenario is he reaches 30+ By having either draisaitl or mcdavid by his side? People here will ***** especilaly If puljujarvi bombs Puljujarvi doesnt have the value you think he does or he’d be gone by now , nobody is offering up 1sts/2nds with top prospects , if we send AA holland will take it 100%. Got no problem making a move for Puljujarvi but i aint sending the only moveable asset that can land us a 1st, whether it be now or next year . We cant get a deal done?Well too bad ... i guarantee you ken holland will be desperate next year cause that kid will play 100% again in finland next year rather than come back to edmonton and for players born in europe it wont be such a burden for the kid to play in his country with family and friends close by so kenny’s on the clock The writer wrote 4th or higher , whats higher than 4th? Thats where i landed my 5th ... that idiots been talking AA for days while wanting to give up nothing but scrubs with each proposal he makes Anyways its all good , you’d do that trade and i wouldnt . Im a gambling man and rather hang on to AA and count on him bouncing back under a new head coach playing a top 6 role . We’ll see what happens

Still a high end prospect id take a risk on only because hes in edmonton and that franchise had been a disaster for god knows how long . Right now hes being projected by some people as a 3rd liner which we have in abundance, whatever it is edmonton are trying to get for puljujarvi no team is going to offer so why should we offer up AA? Holland would take that and run I know edm wont give us bouchard or broberg or a first round pick or even a 2nd it looks like and thats fine if they dont want to do it .Means they dont get AA , we’re not doing anyone favors ...if they wanna do a 2nd and some stipulation where it becomes a 1st but im not gonna do ken holland favors as bad as AA has been i still believe he can bounce back He’s being projected as a 3rd liner now , we have a ton as is . That edm writer doesnt even want to trade a 2nd as well as a 1st basically want him for spare parts .... puljujarvi and lagesson i had seen . These people are on nice drugs Its fine if teams dont want to give up a 1st or a top prospect . We hang on to AA another year and gamble he’d bounce back . And if he gets back to 30g & 55-65 pts we’re getting that 1st + , i dont know why everyones in a rush it seems to deal him, there’s a zero chance he comes back next year with a 10 goals and under season

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Dont bring me into your s***

For puljujarvi and a 5th? f*** that ... that guys a moron everyday he keeps bringing up athanasiou but he and every oilers fan want to land him without trading a 1st,2nd or a top prospect ya goodluck with that

Awww its cute you two have found eachother , goodluck

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Genious lmao i think you need to relearn your math instead of making up bulls*** to try and make yourself right Erne born april 95 2018-2019 20 pt season ... was 23 when the season started and 24 when it ended helm born jan 87 2009-2010 season 24 pt season ... 22 when season started , 23 when it ended 2010-2011 season 32 pt season ... 23 when season started, 24 when it ended same age as erne when he got his 20 pts , dont give me bulls*** about them being 4 months apart when they both turned 24 helm had two full seasons in and erne one 2007-2008 helm played 18 playoff games 2008-2009 helm played 23 playoff games 2009-2010 helm played 12 playoff games 2010-2011 helm played 11 playoff games grand total of 64 playoff games by the time he turned 24 + 2 full seasons under his belt same timeline as when erne got 20 pts ... Um ya helm wasnt way ahead of him at the same time save your bs for someone else who’ll buy what your selling

Yes whatever you say Erne born april 20 1995 ...that would make him 23/24 last season when he got his 20 pts ..... darren helm born jan 21 1987 that would make him 22/23 the season he got 24 pts and 23/24 the season he got 32pts And actually 60+ playoff games to his belt and a cup ring but ya “nice try” yourself . Give it up on erne , no one gives a s*** about him done with this crap

Here we go again Picks are everything picks are life ... nice one ... keep trading your 2nds for teams second line guys teams no longer want and ***** 10 yrs later why its 14 years we havent made the playoffs , we’re a rebuilding franchise and we need as many picks as possible to strike gold you cant understand that its not my f***en problem comprehension is fine, yours isnt .... your the one whos f***en delusional if we had your logic back then we might never had those cups cause we wouldnt of had datsyuk,fedorov etc...The star players arent always picked round 1 and we need as many cracks as possible with us being a rebuilding franchise nice try erne was 23-24 when he got those 20 pts and helm already got 20 and 33 pt seasons and more importantly 50+ playoff games and a stanley cup , just better player ... not even close anyways like i said we disagree on everything and wont change eachothers minds no intentions of going at this nonsense for 5-7 pages like you and your buddy always do later

Point is we might as well trade any draft pick for any player with nhl games to his resume , 2nd rounder for a 2nd line guy etc.. wtf is the point of even drafting according to your logic Im sure you like those odds over erne specifically cause hes been bad? Dont rewrite s*** dude i said i didnt like the trade from day 1 ,i wasnt all in and changed my mind 15-20 games later we have way more than enough bottom line guys on this team as it is , if you cant understand that we need as many draft picks as possible to hopefully land a few good players and not waste on a useless position we dont need help on i dont know what to tell you cant even compare helm to erne , helm was one of better bottom line guys in the league when he started off and was way more impactful than erne was at 24 yes same for perlini easily could have (cause you say so) i look forward to his resurgence in the swiss league anyways we disagree , what else is new .... im done rehashing the same old s*** over and over

Dude , you and your buddies went on stupid rants about erne = nhl games vs 4th pick who might never make it = us winning the deal , same with regula and whatever other nonse you guys spewed ... i was just following Your logic Just cause a player is “expandable” as you put it doesnt mean we trade that piece for some reject , last i checked tuomisto isnt a sure thing, drysdale isnt a wing and dmen in our pipeline is still a questionmark ... you know whos expendable? I wont say it but you know who lol anyways this was fun

Not hoping just being realistic , its the sane look He’s projected to be a top 6 guy in the mold of arvidsson. He’s basically a late 1st , but YES we all get it by now , anything outside of the 1st round might never make it in the league so we might As well trade them for players with nhl experience cause games played in the nhl vs a player who might never make it = winning every trade anyways Need to cross out drysdale Just cause a piece is expendable doesnt mean we just trade them , hey if we do land drysdale we might as well trade tuomisto for another failed 1st by your logic

You missed the other key words ... “for now” of course they’re completely different players , gotta keep your argument going in your favour ... point is s*** changes quick man. He can go in the 3rd line next season end up with 28 pts . We got idiots on twitter wanting to sign him for like 5 x 2 . I know its been a s*** year to be a redwing fan but ppl need to calm the f*** down What would you have said? The comment about berggren is another great example ... berggren is projected to be a top 6 guy if he can stay healthy , if Berggren is as good as fabbri as you put it that would be a big disappointment Anyways we’ve discussed this plenty of times in the past and im not gonna rehash this crap for another 5 pages again. You know how i feel , i know how you feel . We’ll talk next year Ya if your into dudes joseph

Get to eventually first hey? Hes not even been here for 40 games , mantha + AA arent here hes taking advantage of top 6 minutes ... for now.... hey remember that guy AA who got 30 goals last year and 54 pts ? Ya how quickly things can change Oh please the way some of you talk at times , yourself included you’d think hes the next messiah Fabbri is a 3rd line guy who won’t be in the redwings longterm plans when things get going ... to steal a line from paul heyman ... its not a prediction its a spoiler Someone comes knocking at the deadline and offers up a 2nd+ we should send him packing asap

Its nice you stopped at 2 season stretch cause you know he won’t be here year 3 , now your learning its all nice you wanna jerk eachother off over 30 game sample but you realize next year zadina is here game 1 , we get lucky and fufill our destiny and land lafraniere thats another player .... veleno and lafraniere go nuts together in camp and exhibition + rasmussen,AA wakes up etc.... Fabbri finds himself suddenly on the 3rd line , your deluding yourself if you think he’ll stay in the top 6 and keep up this production up but its fine man enjoy it while it lasts pretend hes a corner stone piece of the future for now Wtf are you on about , you make no sense .... what would have been the point of kaski for wood ? What would have been the point of pope for biega?saarijarvi for comrie? Sometimes you trade your garbage for other garbage ... panned out this time ... for now enjoy it , soak it in high five eachother cause there’s nothing else to celebrate in detroit until seider shows up with 10-15 games left

I did .... like i said i dont think he’ll be in detroit in 2-3 years , i wont get carried away over a 30 game stretch . Doesnt mean i was pissed off we traded delarose , like i said our bottom 6 is beyond stacked with mediocre players and he had zero future here

Hey dont bring me into your mess lol and ive always said id have done fabbri trade as delarose had zero future here and just a bottom line scrub among many. Im just not as high on him as everyone else and would be shocked if he maintained this play and was still a redwing in 2-3 years Regula trade was moronic imo , sorry ...never saw the upside , being on a 3rd team in 3 years was a big red flag ... id have rather sent ehn or something 4th round pick for erne never liked it cause again , we have an abundance of bottom line scrubs and smith , turgeon ,pearson all in the ahl was there really a need for another ? + this is a seriously deep draft and yes its the 4th round but its likely first dibs so like a late 3rd ... arizona got this macceli kid last year lighting up the liiga league so ya never know. I just knew we had no need for erne other players yzerman traded were just scrubs with zero future in detroit , we won in the fabbri deal and lost the erne/regula one and broke even with the others ... maybe got one up on pope if we trade biega for a 7th lol maybe draft a 17yr old goalie and hope he develops I thought of doing a thread after the draft a few yrs ago and everyone doing our own picks and seeing how everyone did but figured id just get beef for it so passed on it lol Got no problems saying id have taken podkolzin over seider day after the draft ... still think hes gonna be a star but i get what yzerman did as holland has ignored are weakness for years (taking rasmussen over brannstrom/foote/valimaki was a blunder) so tried to fix our biggest need in one draft . Id still have taken fagemo with our first second , was really high on him , but ya if anyone wants to do a thread after the draft and have a laugh 3-4 years later id be game

Course we do but hronek seems to be headed that way , seider has that potential , i still think cholowski can be a 30-45 pt dman if he works his d s*** out and becomes a regular ppl guy + maybe if turn s*** around detroit native and larkin buddy werenski comes home? id just try and target a superstar franchise forward with a pick that early , i wouldnt even consider him at 2 or 3 but its all good we all have a different opinion

Did he even get over 50 pts? He must have but id say hes more 40-50 guy , id say If athanasiou bounces back we can argue he’d be entering his prime as well? Guessing they were of similiar age anyways just saying if he does bounce back to 30 goals and 55-65 pt season with 2-3-4 teams after him we should get more than just a 1st so unless someone wows us im in no rush to deal him now

Well tatar got us a 1st,2nd,3rd and i wouldnt say hes some great back checker , if AA get those type of stats i mentioned all we need is 2-3-4 teams bidding for him and it becomes a 1st +2nd , 1st + prospect etc... so i dont think its far fetched scenario ... again if he rebounds As for backes id love that 1st but if they wanna target a kreider etc theyll need that 1st to dangle , if push comes to shove id gladly take a 2nd + 4th back or something like that for backes rather get that than nothing , id love a first but its a long shot in my mind , im hoping we can somehow go from 2 to 4 second rounders somehow at this point ... lets take on some scrubs with another season tagged on and get some picks

Ya i guess , i do think tampa will win the division when its all said and done . Definerly anything outside of a top prospect or a 1st and we definetly hold on to the guy, if he goes back to 30 goals and gets 60-65 pts we’d fetch alot more than a 1st