nyqvististhefuture

If anything next season with veleno etc... added to the lineup his #’s should improve and if hes locked to another 2-3 years at a reasonable cap hit his value should be really good and then we should ship him out especially if we land a lafraniere type impact player at the draft 0 goals is 0 goals , hes hit over 33 pts once in his career .... its not silly at all. His value is complete s*** right now , wed be lucky to land a 2nd rd at this stage

You should look in the mirror

Its ok id be back tracking if i were in your shoes

You should do standup at your local pub

Broke khl records , Put up better numbers as panarin at same age , nonstop bs your 2nd round jokes has nothing to do with it

Lmao from the s*** i read here you would think he already was before he even played a single game

Seider will play , hopeful with tuomisto but hes still a question mark ... pretty sure most us were excited with sproul,ouellet,backman,marchenko and they all turned into busts so although regula is a question mark so is tuomisto and the others im sure he’ll draft more dmen but i suspect we wont land one in the 1st rd this year (at least i hope not) so the other picks will be question marks as well , i expect moves and im not against them but im just not a fan of this move yzerman hasnt done a horrendous move yet but im not a fan of the move either. As far as im concerned ill just have to move on from regula and perlini(yes hasnt played a game yet but i dont see him here longterm) and concentrate on seider and veleno at this point , the only 2 guys i can say im convinced yzerman would never think of trading

Superstar gusev is a healthy scratch

I think if we we’re realisitc with our expectations we wouldnt be too surprised at whats happening. Outside the first line we have AA who we expected more of and thats pretty much it. Mantha is a shooter we need to give up the net front prescence stuff cause hes 6’5 , the first line needs to stop being f***ed around with and leave it as it is . Perlini doesnt seem to have much of a work ethic from what i read so might as well just put him in front of the net . AA shouldnt be moved at this point if he continues on this path, last year when he got the 30 goals was the time but people would have bitched if we did so , he continues to struggle we hold on to him and hope with veleno,zadina etc.., he gets back to 30 goal pace and then we move him i have nothing against trades ,im just not gonna automatically agree with every single move cause yzerman’s my favourite player

I see it as a no point deal , i see perlini easily in the bottom 6 and likely gone in 2-3 years max with all forwards we have coming . Regula might be a 5-7 dman but besides goaltending dmen are the hardest players to project and take longer to develop and hes only 19 so if i were to deal him it would be for a 19-20 yr old prospect back and not for some player struggling to be a regular no ones gonna argue that we never should have given up a 1st to land quincey back , i dont think anyone was happy when that happened. I dont think it cost us vasilevsky , i didnt like the janmark to dallas move but im not gonna say we lost out on hintz, we never know what players we would have chosen at that spot

Im good , i expect trades i been pushing AA to be moved for a year now , this type of deal makes no sense for me

Not much of an upgrade ... enter perlini lmao your dumber im done with this nonsense , we dont see eye to eye on this and thats it I dont think anyones ever asked helm to score. I get your point we have a #1 line and thats it , i dont think anyone realisitcally was expecting much else besides AA having more numbers but what do we expect with filppula and nielsen as our c’s , it is what it is . i dont think perlini will help much and he’ll be gone rather soon , guess we wait and see at this point

You can have tuomisto,johansson(who was picked what ?20 spots earlier?) ahead lf him but doesnt mean theyll be better. Bowey i think wont be here much longer . Well we know where perlini projects to be and its in europe in a few years. Ha We have enough depth as it is , if anything we should have already been getting rid of deadweight not adding more . Wanna add more offense? Heres a crazy thought add svechnikov in the top 6 for 3-4 games instead of putting him on the bottom 6th , the fact he played on the 4th for a few games was nonsensical your just talking out of your ass with perlini and these projections , everything ive read from fans of the hawks and coyotes is he doesnt play 2 way at all , that wont cut it here . Want to do realistic projections? mantha bertuzzi larkin is the top line i think thats one thing we can actually agree on, now if we get f***en lucky for once and add a lafraniere/byfield + AA if hes still around and lets say veleno thats line #2 .... after that therea hirose/zadina/rasmussen/kuffner/smith all fighting it out for a 3rd line spot and that doesnt even include the rejects we cant get rid of in nielsen,filppula etc.. so perlini if hes really lucky gets a 3rd line spot next year , probably 4th,waivers or grand rapids ... thats the realistic projection not some top 6 , 20 goal guy Perlini isnt the answer Your f***en ridiculous The guy who couldnt beat out drake caggiula for a spot is gonna save us now , this is what we’ve become

10th ? Id say its seider and then everyone else , i like mcisaac but we dont know how good he will actually be. We already got one scrub whos in the same age group as our core in erne might as well get hosang and others now while were at it even if you dont count ehn we have enough roster guys at forward as it is , perlini wasnt needed. For me its seider and a group of guys on our d prospect list afterwards and considering hes 19 id have kept him , you seem to suddenly love these reclamation projects. Try someone like puljujarvi whos still 20 and was part of an oilers organization well known for running s*** ot the ground not these guys who will amount to nothing (20 goal guy , middle 6 winger ...good one) Virtanen is another bottom line guy who amounts to not much , you really do have a thing for failed guys. I might over value picks/prospects but you definetly over value fringe nhl players who bring not much to the table i was just giving an example , dont start getting your boners just yet . We shouldnt be looking to improve our team this season , we need to bottom out and guarantee a top 4 pick (yes we know its a lottery) . we want someone in the top 6 ? Give svechnikov a few games , call up zadina get a look , rasmussen etc... anyways i said id have traded regula not for a guy who’ll be gone soon . We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one . What else is new

Regula is a solid prospect like tuomisto etc... they are all unknown’s but doesnt mean we should be trading them for players like perlini who’ll likely soon be gone(what potential) rather use them in a bigger trade or for a similar type prospect Yes all he needs is to be a workhorse , he can be a decent bottom liner . People might not wanna hear it but we shouldnt be trying to improve right now , everything is going good for the future . We need to bottom out and get in the top 3 and we have enough depth as it is , granted they arent top 6 guys but we have way enough bodies as it is and should be looking at subtracting . Want someone in the top 6? Heres a crazy idea give svechnikov a game or 2 with larkin , but its ok we can get larkins boys definetly will play? Ehn is playing right now doesnt mean squat ,give me the kid with upside any day . You gave me s*** for the erne trade ... yes its a pick who will likely never play but erne so far has been nothing to talk about and imo perlini will be the same , im not expecting anything from the guy and if he gets 10 goals good on him . Probably have a -10 next to him and be gone in a couple seasons and if regula plays for the hawks for 10-15 yrs and is a solid #4-5 dman id say we lost the deal . how do i sound ridiculous? I said i dont like the trade so obviously i dont agree with the trade value we got back in return , this is yzerman desperatly trying to improve our roster right now with reclamation projects , first erne now perlini, whos next ? Lindstrom for jake virtanen? Anyways you like the trade good on you , i dont like it and see no future in detroit for him Im good with the rebuild , lose and lose some more and pick as many top picks as possible . Adding a fringe guy who will be gone in a few yrs isnt helping the rebuild imo clean house all he wants but yes start with the garbage players you mentioned etc... not 19 yr old kids for project players who’ll fail Help us with what exactly ? Finishing 5th last instead of dead last? Thats not a good thing

Have we improved our d position? Yes , but all these prospects we have are still unknowns. Im positive seider will be a stud but we dont know yet if he’ll be a top pair or a #3 , we dont know if kaski,tuomisto,lindstrom etc.. will even make it we traded away a solid d prospect whos still 19 for a guy whos on his 3rd team already and was a healthy scratch for a reason and if i had to bet money id bet he wont be here past 2-3 seasons max with all the kids coming up as of next season. We get a top 3 pick +veleno,zadina,rasmussen wheres he gonna fit? We should be trying to get rid of bodies not adding more fringe players which we agree on . If we had to trade regula id have liked a move like a lauko from boston or someone of similar age to regula or a throw in + AA in a blockbuster deal but trading him for perlini is a stupid move It shouldnt have taken brandon perlini to have helm on the bottom lines lol

Seasons going according to plan , there was no need to trade a 19 yr old d prospect( our weakest position) to add a forward (we have a ton of kids coming next yr and we have way too many scrubs as it is and need to subtract, not add ) whos been mediocre and will likely be gone in a few seasons

Yzerman’s startin to lose it

Consider yourself lucky to be behind your precious computer go hang yourself

I asked you not to use the r word cause of personal stuff i wont go into and yet you persisted cause yes you are a douchebag who seems to think himself to be some touch s*** on a pc Your life isnt worth a 2nd rounder , direct your rants elsewhere

Arent you a hilarious douchebag do me a favour and preach your nonsensical bs to someone else

None of those guys would help us be that much better or get us into the playoffs , so it all worked out . id have still kept mrazek as i always thought his ceiling was higher than howard and him being 8 yrs younger always made sense but regardless we’re a rebuilding team so wouldnt be much change for the next few years the tatar and smith trades are looking like nice gets for us thus far

Theyve played simmonds in the top 6 in games , tonight in fact with your gusev in the third line, not my problem you fail to see these things ... and i mentioned gusev scoring previously which youd have noticed if you werent too busy constantly making excuses oh and if you dont mind refrain yourself from using the r word in the future and trust me thats me being polite and unlike you i like to watch many sports leagues not just hockey but dont worry about my hockey knowledge , just keep coming up with more excuses

Coolbeans

Been at the bottom last games for ice time , suspect they arent too thrilled with his two way game