nyqvististhefuture

Dying is never worth a 2nd rounder

Either way you look at it he’s dying and He’s playing on the 2nd line simmonds is going downhill but as of now he is playing with hughes and gusev so he will play games on the top 6 this season and maybe he gets lucky and rebounds his career before he dies in the khl with his new buddy

When you buy someone who’s dying you’ve always overpaid

But gusev is 27 and almost dead , how can he be futures? bolduc isn’t on the level of aliaksei protos

Bowey 3 pts through 2 games so far (1g ,2a) #boweyisthefuture

You keep mentioning gusev even though I don’t care about him Who gives a crap what I would have paid in a trade for gusev? We’re a rebuilding team going nowhere for at least a few years ... have you seen our d ? Devils are ahead of us so good on them for adding him , they’ve also added pk,hughes,simmonds,vatanen ... we added kaski and Nemeth again I don’t care about gusev , I’m gusev’d out

Apparently so you never said he’d be amazing yet according to your “khl to nhl conversions” he’s a top 10 nhl player lmao ... ya whatever you say anyways I’m done with all this nonsense , we’ve been through this s*** a while ago for what seemed to last forever and I’m not gonna through this bs everyday again cause he scored a f***en goal Keep up ha, sorry I try avoid reading whatever nonsense you have to say when possible laterz

I think he will be better , how many times do I have to say that we’re a rebuilding team and I have my eyes towards the future and not just today, which we’re gonna win squat with gusev or no gusev batherson is 21 , he’ll be in Ottawa for at least another 6 years

Difficult to grasp lmao it’s called having a difference of opinion ... you can rank him at 20 or whatever you wanna say but like we’ve discussed there’s other things to consider such as being a complete player and age , anyways you wanna just look at points itself congrats “he’s a top 20 guy” My 0 nhl games played is just as ridiculous as your oh he’s amazing in Europe so he’ll be amazing here argument whos to say this 27 yr old was gonna stick around ?he was gonna sign a one year deal and test free agency and go for the biggest money available Batherson was brought up as being someone I’d rank higher than gusev on your famous list of top wingers plain and simple anyways I’m done with this stupid gusev bulls*** , you wanna annoint the guy already as some top player go ahead yes your right , AA and the forward group will remain untouched

12

20-30 at his position in your opinion , don’t make it sound like it’s a fact ... he’s played zero games and I know what your trying to do with kakko which is a bad example , don’t try and pretend to lie to yourself and us and say you’d take gusev over kakko ..... we’re a rebuilding team we obviously would be ranking younger guys with huge upside over a guy who’s close to 30 drake batherson 20 yr old kid with 20 nhl games , or gusev 27 yr old with 0 games , gimme batherson any day Maybe on your nhl20 game and do you think he’d be sticking around ? Cause I don’t .... Yup And I know it’s not a popular opinion but I think when the time comes for yzerman to make a move AA will be gone , unless zadina,veleno,berggren and Hopefully our 2020 pick becomes a bust we won’t have enough spots in the top 6 so I think AA becomes expendable in a deal to get us better we’ll see what happens but that’s my opinion , that’s not even counting guys like mastrosimone with upside and if Svechnikov ever wakes up, if Erne has this untapped potential I keep seeing people say online ... bodies will be moved i wouldn’t give up the second I told you , we’re a rebuilding team and I’m looking ahead I don’t wanna draft a rasmussen next year so we can have a tingle in our ballsack cause we missed the playoffs by 10 pts instead of 22

Nao Rasmussen sucks wouldnt ever have done that deal,got my eyes on the future not in the now he’d never been in Detroit when were ready to make the playoffs and turn this thing around ... right now it’s basically AA Larkin mantha bertuzzi hronek That will be here in 4-5 years nao

Thought you were talking about wingers , who’s to say he won’t end up on the right wing? I’m saying there would be more than 20-30 I’m sure that I would easily pick over someone who’s played 0 games Because you said I suppose your gonna say there’s more to a player than just points , made it sound as if your were ignoring 2 way play so long as he can get points , anyways . again, it’s khl and he’s producing in preseason vs mediocre nhler lineups .... the bold was said so you guys would be happy and be quiet about gusev , hoping it works

We’re gonna start with this nonsense again after a few pre season games ? Can I come here and ***** nonstop how we should have taken brannstrom over rasmussen if he scores a nice goal? You said he’d be top 20-30 in the league as a winger if he got 50-60 pts ... I’m saying there’s 31 teams x4 wingers first two lines that’s 124 wingers top 2 lines most should be in the 50 ballpark and I’m juts saying gusev wouldn’t be in the top 20-30 your gonna tell me points alone is what makes a player ? We had datsyuk here and zetterberg you should know that answer already , and you can get at me for not watching gusev but let’s not pretend you’ve seen a ton of his games , watching a few international games doesn’t make you a gusev expert , I find it very Hard to believe your at home watching khl games for gusev alright it’s a steal for devils ... good on them , I don’t even know why we’re all this nonsense again cause he scored a goal, good for him and good for the devils Ya We’d only be so lucky

20-30? Ya ok lol ... there’s 31 teams 4 wingers on the top 2 lines that’s over 120 wingers and you think he gets 50 pts he’s top 20-30? Guess we’ll disagree .... just for example Colin white off the top of my head will be a top line guy this year and will probably get 50-60 and he’s much younger and I’d personally take him over gusev anyday .... point is they’ll be a lot of guys getting +50 pts Who id personally rank over him , again it’s fine but agree to disagree and your right I misremembered about Pearson it was a prospect game , my bad but even if he got one now or anyone else I wouldn’t think too much of it being it’s pre season hockey that’s all. As for Pearson I think he can be a third line guy ...that’s fine that people don’t wanna think about him

I didn’t say it was ....well depends on what team , on Ottawa yes on a cup contending team more likely a 3rd line guy point is it’s only pre season so no point getting overly excited. I’ve always liked Pearson who know one anywhere ever talks about and I think he’ll be a redwing and possibly a 3rd line guy but I didn’t get overly excited he got a hat trick, no I’m not saying he’s got more skill or talent I’m just saying I don’t get excited with anything to do with pre season anyways either way if we got him it wouldnt make our team that much better to make noise to get in the playoffs if anything it would ruin our draft and we’d up with probably 8-11th pick, I don’t wish anyone to tank and not succeed so I hope he can have an nhl player but I’m not gonna lose any sleep if he gets 65 pts with the devils and we didn’t get him we have a ton of kids coming all with the potential to be on the top 6 and we’re likely gonna have to deal someone within a year or two Who fans will be upset about.

How long you gonna keep living in this dream world ?he hasn’t even played one nhl game yet and as of now is with the #1 pick , might end up with 40-50 pts for all we know which would be a nice pick up but far from this big Russian superstar everyone keeps talking about you need to calm down abit

Ya your wrong about that one , normally I’d want the #1 pick at all costs and I’d still want it so we can control who we take but next year there’s lafraniere/byfield/Raymond/holtz available in the top 4 as well as the Russian goalie,lundell,perfetti .... there’s a ton of franchise elite guys in the top end of the draft this year so I’d be happy with a top 3/4 selection if it came to that you don’t think yzerman will wait a year for the turn around? He preached patience , sorry but I think your wrong what are we realistically gonna turn around this year? Thinking longterm bertuzzi AA mantha Larkin and hronek Are the only likely players to be around longterm with the wings looking into the future and someone like AA I think Will eventually become expendable if we do end up with a 2020 top pick and guys like veleno,zadina,berggren etc ... pan out , just not enough spots on the top 6 i think when things start to turn around will be next season when veleno,zadina,seider,cholowski will be on the roster full time and possibly guys like Pearson,smith .... yzerman needs to shed all that deadweight we have the 2020 pick if we’re top 3/4 will likely be ready 21-22 , possibly 2020-2021 depending who it is We NEED to get in the top 5

Yzerman is thinking longterm and knows how important the 2020 draft is regardless what he says about opportunities were also stuck with s***ty contracts veleno,seider,zadina will all start down and likely see some games later in the year

So is wayne simmonds?

Looked good but Still preseason though so I won’t get too excited though over any one player just yet Got white in as well , melnyk trying to save $ and taking gambles on longterm deals now with the kids we should be doing that with some kids when possible

If he becomes a 3c shutdown guy after we spent a top 10 pick on him when you consider the dmen that were available and how we been a disaster at that position since lidstrom left it would be a bust pick for me hope he proves me wrong and excels and at least becomes a 25 goal Ppl net front specialist but with the likes of veleno,zadina,berggren and likely a top 5 pick next season I fear your right and he will be a bottom 6 guy

Svechnikov + glendening (retain some $) ? think oilers are desperate to get in the playoffs and not continue to waste mcdavid away , Sooner or later he’ll demand a trade and I think glendening would greatly help the bottom 6 and penalty kill , svechnikov is of similar age anyways probably not near enough, heard some young guys out there who might be available in trade talks

Couldn’t care less about Howard so long as someone gets hurt this year or goalies under perform and yzerman can finally ship him out for some assets

Well then I guess it’s the most ridiculous thing you’ve ever heard lol. Hoffman staying in the same division would have meant Karlsson would play Hoffman more and see him more than if he was sent to the west and I’m sure the stupid sens were still trying to please Karlsson and trying to keep him as a sen Never said it wasn’t, I said multiple occasions teams wouldn’t trade star players within a division but I think times are changing and you’ll see more moves within the division depending on the assets being moved Again , I don’t think a 25-31 pick is a “huge move “ if your getting back a much better deal from someone else other than the canes ... were just rehashing the same s*** over and over lol How the hell do I know who the leafs or any team will target in the third round a year from now lol, it’s always good to have that pick when the time comes ... you fail to see my point cause you don’t agree with me and that’s fine , just going around in circles here Ya from that list of spectacular players you posted I can see why the leafs or anyone else would trade within the division for the much better return when you have all that talent that made it 25-31? Lol boeser ...Theodore...pastranak....konecky , pretty much that’s all I’d consider to be a threat , hardly a reason to stop doing a deal that’s better for your own team All depends our current situation and who we might lose due to cap restraints , I personally would do it if we were the leafs and guaranteed to get a late pick , wtf have we done the last 20 + years picking 20-30 when we were at the top? Our draft record was horrible so I would if it meant keeping the gang together and going for another Stanley cup You keep saying it’s only a 12% advantage like it doesn’t mean something ... to me it does , we agree to disagree Again we’re just going around in circles and repeating the same stuff , we don’t agree, that’s it .