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Poor Johan Ryno gets no respect

Your right but Didn’t expect someone to lose their minds over two career ahlers lesson learned

With Jimmy Howard who’s gonna likely get hurt again I’d say that’d a great bet , unless we decide not to take any chances of ******* him up and calling pickard up instead

You know that both of these guys will likely never play more than 200 nhl games combined right?and your getting into arguments over scrubs right ? you think it’s an idiotic trade and bla bla bla , I think it’s two guys who have similar careers who have struggled and suggested doing a trade ... you don’t like it that’s fine , I don’t care either way and would be more than ok if we kept turgeon but I’m not gonna keep arguing over two guys who will likely be in the ahl next season cause it’s just pointless and a waste of time

We could be wrong on them but for the wings future we better not be , I think both will be top 4 guys though , seider will be given every opportunity to succeed and cholowski I think will be a Ppl guy and be a 30-45 pt guy at least ( or for our sake he’d better be ) hronek is a stud

I KNEW IT lmfao your f***en ridiculous .... why would we ever trade anybody ? we signed joe hicketts !! Stupid idiot ! We like him ....we signed David pope! We like him! your reasons are just idiotic , only reason I asked this is because we already have a ton of bottom line guys and more coming who I’d say is ahead of turgeon in chase Pearson and turgeon is 23 and hasn’t cracked squat and isn’t even a sure thing that will be on the team this season, and mccarron is in a similar boat and thought maybe a change of scenery might benefit both guys but hey if you think we love him cause we signed him and he isn’t going anywhere go for it ... guess if he goes back down to Grand Rapids again we didn’t really like him that much

If turgeon was that good at everything else surely he’d have had more than 9 games by now? We have an abundance of Dominic turgeon’s on this team we don’t have a 6’6 guy who might be able to provide a physical presence .... and yes we have Rasmussen but I’m still hoping to god he turns into a top 6 guy or that pick will be an absolute waste Pretty sure if you don’t resign your rfa’s They’d be a free agent so don’t know wtf your blabbing on about, can’t hang on to guys forever your nonsense your spewing is irrelevant

He has a chance to play on the fourth line for a few seasons maybe ,but let’s be real our team is stacked with a s*** ton of scrubs lol + smith maybe in a few seasons , I’m personally higher on Pearson than turgeon and think he will be a player + I’d have ehn ahead of turgeon , he’s very expendable and I’d be shocked to see him here in 2- 3 years

They like him enough to keep him around rather than losing him for nothing at this point which isn’t saying much , he’s in the same boat as ehn,delarose etc... I’m sure he’s vey expendable sure we don’t know how they feel about mccarron or any players since we’re not privileged enough to be in the player discussions but to think a player like mccarron isn’t a possibility because we passed on him is just stupid , why would any team trade for any player? Why would buffalo trade Alex nylander for jokiharju? They had a chance and passed on him , so silly you do realize just because a team signs someone and “likes them” doesn’t mean they won’t trade that player , again ... sometimes it’s as simple as keeping an asset rather than losing them for nothing anyways this was just a simple question I had I don’t wanna get into it and get into it over two bottom line guys who will be lucky enough to play 2-3 seasons in the nhl at this point lol

sorry man but if we have a Rasmussen and mccarron 4th line duo it would be a complete failure when you consider we wasted a 9th overall pick At least nfl’s right around the corner What does passing on a player at the draft have to do with anything ? Players get moved all the time and players get resigned all the time it’s just adding depth players to your organization rather than losing them for nothing ,at this point both players are going to be 4th line guys or career ahl guys so I don’t see the big deal of swapping them both if it’s a deal that both teams like

Both guys at this point of their careers will be lucky to play in the nhl for some time , who knows maybe a change of scenery might benefit one of them ? I suggested the deal for that reason as well as turgeon being from mtl and mccaron from Detroit so who knows maybe it’ll work out for both guys who would be maybe more motivated being in front of family and friends? i don’t know if we’re satisfied with turgeon ,he’s 23 so this is basically his year to show us whether we should keep him going forward , same as mccaron with the habs , big picture though with the roster we have and the kids coming the chances of either sticking long term are slim to none but I’m just thinking of giving the 6’6 hometown kid a crack of being on the 4th line longterm and if he flops so be it ... whether it’s turgeon or mccaron getting that chance doesn’t bother me just something I thought of throwing it out there and see what people think

Both players will be lucky to play in the nhl at this point and we have a ton of bottom 6 guys but just curious if anyone would do Dominic turgeon for Michael mccarron one for one or basically at this point stand pat and whatever happens happens

You think we’re going to draft 10-15 next June ? Well your really gonna be in for a treat next season

So much for shattenkirk , don’t know how much a big of an opportunity he’ll get on a stacked team, if he starts to falter he’ll get f***ed ... ah well f*** him jake Gardner 6 x 1 year and shipped on deadline day for high picks ... come on Stevie

Ya that’s what I figured just surprised after I noticed how many subscribers he has ... gotta love the internet haha

Who is this guy? Lol I’ve seen videos of him on YouTube but I can’t take him seriously So forget what ken Holland wants for puljujarvi, what do you think is a realistic trade he’ll end up doing for him? Part of me wants to take a swing at this guy now more with the filppula signing Cause word is he was lost in Edmonton with no other Finns and not speaking English , surely playing on the 3rd line with filppula and maybe a youngster would help him? vegas 2021 3rd + svechnikov ?... think a player like glendening/helm(provided we eat some $) might be in the cards? Really think they’re desperate to try and get in the playoffs and I can’t imagine a team trading a 20-21 yr old top prospect guy for puljujarvi so I think Holland will have to settle for less, people say let him stay in Finland but his life is there and his family and friends so I don’t think that’s a big sacrifice for the kid as some people might think think it is and just means oilers are losing an asset

Ya I’d only want one of them , and I don’t think we’d have room for both we already have a lot of guys to get rid of on the back end , could be wrong but don’t see Gardner taking 3 mill per , If he’s gonna try and redeem himself next year to get a longer deal with a one year deal it should be 5-6 mill I would think which I’d do in a second if we can land a first for him at the deadline or 2 2nds to go along with green as well hopefully i don’t think either of them would be longterm solutions for the wings so I’d personally only want them for one year with the sole intention of getting picks for the 2020 draft

Just realized Jake Gardner is still unsigned , at this point there’s no chance he gets signed longterm unless he takes like 4-5 mill per ... what are the chances he takes one year deal to try and redeem himself and get a bigger deal next summer ? 1 x6-7 per? Think there’s like zero chances he picks wings over a contender but rather get him and flip him at the deadline over shattenkirk , those back problems must be a bigger issue than we know

Ya exactly , at this stage he’s in no position to be super picky , obviously he’s gonna go to a place that will benefit him and hopefully get another stupid team to give him a big contract but if Let’s say the pens offer him 1 mill And we have him 3 for one year I think he’d pick up and yes promise him Ppl time opportunities etc... we blew it with marleau so if we can land him for one year even if it costs a tad more $ ,with the cap space we have we shouldn’t even think twice , hopefully he and green would fetch us at least 2-3 2nds back and if we land shattenkirk hopefully means ericsson/Daley will be dealt ASAP

So Is it even worth considering shattenkirk after he just got bought out for one season with the sole intention of hoping he can have a good enough 5 months to ship him at the deadline for a decent return??

There’s nothing to indicate zadina is better from his 9 games either then but I sure as s*** wouldn’t take him over kakko ... I’m the one who’s been talking the most about Trouba coming here in 2020 Yes I’m aware but your aware his wife wants to go to med school and she’s not from Detroit so if he’s doing all this for her there’s just a good a chance he signs longterm so she can study in New York as him returning to Detroit , we’ll see what happens oh ya cause your posts are realistic , where are these stars that have signed in Detroit the last what 5-7 years ? Mr realistic , wake the f*** up man no nhl superstar is signing in Detroit until we turn this team around and become playoff contenders yearly and head in the right direction ... sure yzerman can try right now but doesn’t mean s*** until we turn this team around unless your content signing these scrubs like Nielsen,Weiss we been signing the last 5 years , I’d rather just stand pat and continue the way we are and make some trades along the way A star is a star , it’s not hard to understand really , top line guy who gets the pts and excels , Taylor hall is a star player who will be a Ufa next year , will he sign here ? I think there’s no chance None of those guys you mentioned were stars , Weiss had injuries and never should have been signed in the first place but we were so deperate to keep a meaningless streak alive , not having much cap room stopped Holland from giving out more stupid deals , we need to stop giving longterm deals To mid tier guys and continue building the way we have

Again , New York City is one of the best city’s in the world so it’s not the same imo + he’s got countless Russians coming Hype? Like I wanna say rangers have better prospects coming up than us , kakko is the obvious , kravtsov is gonna be a stud , the Russian goalie shestyorkin seems to be the real deal , k Miller looks real good , just added fox as well as Trouba so that back end alone destroys the wings d core everyone knows they have 24 cups , star players want to win now there not gonna be like I remember wings glory from 97-02 and go there now when we’re a bottom team , it’s nice to be optimistic but I’m trying to be realistic yzerman cant force star players to come here unless we sign a 10 mill guy to like 12.5 longterm, I don’t think He’ll sign many big guys cause I just don’t think theyd wanna come at this time but I can definetly see yzerman making big trades when the right time arrives , I’ve been saying for the longest time how I think AA will be moved eventually again, I’m trying to be realistic our 3rd and fourth lines aren’t good and our d core is horrendous and add to that we have an aging goalie so yes I do believe the star players won’t come here and incase you haven’t noticed we haven’t attracted squat in along time .... Weiss ,green,Richards,tootoo And god knows who else , those are the ones that come to mind ... again no stars , it is what it is .... when we’re among the best we got hull and robitaille , when we start winning again then they’ll come Theres nothing there worth going nuts over , after winning a cup I suspect the blues will resign pietrangelo ... Barrie already said he wants like 8 per and probably x7 years and not a fan of giving Krug 7 years as well ... Trouba would have been the perfect fit

Well then I guess we 100% disagree ... I said top nhl stars like a Panarin this year or hall next not the ryan dzingel’s or Jake Gardner’s of free agency ... if you want to sign guys that aren’t motivated to win now you’ll end up more likely with guys that just want the money and those guys cup winning resumes never end up looking well I mentioned Trouba as coming home all year in 2020 as a certainty based on all the rumours , not so sure now so never disagreed hometown kids wouldn’t want to come rangers rebuild is also well ahead of us ,stacked full of promising Russians so I’m sure he’ll feel at home and everybody knows on top of that New York is one of the best cities in the world so that will always motivate people to sign there were talking about today , second best franchise crap doesn’t cut it nowadays look at the habs #1 by a landslide and they haven’t been able to attract top stars in forever ... as soon as we start getting in the playoffs yearly and kids are producing then I believe they might come ,not now .... we landed filppula and Nemeth this year incase you didn’t notice and I don’t see us landing stars in 2020 cause I don’t anticipate us being even remotely close to a playoff spot with our d and bottom 2 lines , I’d say Krug is the only shot but that would only happen if the bruins don’t wanna give him big money which means we’d have to and I wouldn’t want to give Krug say 7x7 anyways I do think we’re headed In the right direction though

You really think a Panarin type free agent would come here ? Cause I think there’s a 0% chance at the moment , you can talk about young core coming but facts are were not a playoff team so we won’t be attracting front tier guys , it sucks but it’s simple as that I was the one always saying wait for Trouba for 2020 the most instead of giving up assets with all the rumours of him wanting to come back to his hometown ,he was the guy we had the shot with but looks like wifey might have other plans , outside that unless you want to go give someone like Jake Gardner 35 million for 5 years those are the types of guys we’d be landing id say Taylor hall wouldn’t even look here for a second in 2020 unless you wanna throw him 12.5 x8 type of an offer, same with josi if he was available ... we can probably get the galchenyuks if we throw like 30 mill x 5 anyways just keep rebuilding properly , but yes hopefully Trouba tells his wife to be a good little girl and study in Detroit

Realistically who’s going to want to come here in 2020 with the way this team currently is at ?ill be happy at this point if we finally trade green for high picks and never see him again if we get anyone I hope it’ll be for 1-2 year deals with where we are I know some people want Krug but I wouldn’t want him for 7 years