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Just read apparently they didn’t like that he was making 2.5 and wanted to renegotiate lol I’m pretty sure he’s stick the middle finger and tell them to renegotiate this lol id take a shot on a one year deal 1.5 And hope he goes towards a 15 goal campaign and ship the deadline for a 3rd and let someone else give him 3 per after lol The only teams that should be doing something like that should be a team guaranteed getting in every year so they don’t risk losing a lottery pick , nothing’s ever guaranteed but like a sj etc... id die if ken Holland could shed salary and somehow go get him lol think if they’d get decent d oilers would make the playoffs with a mcdavid draisatil line and a nuge marner line He won’t go anyways the player to target is aho,if a team team offers him crazy bonus money like 20 mill in 12 months canes owner would flip , I’m sure that’s how much they make in a year lmao

From what I seen so far Ty rattie and Tobias reider not qualified as well as Curtis lazar and Ben Hutton anyone interesting we can lock up to a one year deal and flip at the deadline? Reider outside last year was always good for 12-16 goals in the four prior seasons , I know we have a ton of bottom 6 guys but if we can flip any of helm/glendening/Nielsen and sign a few guys like reider for more picks I’d consider it and I hope Tampa are just waiting till They sign point and some Ufa to flip us Callahan, hope we get some picks at least for either callahan or clarkson (I’m still stunned Tampa got a 1st for Miller from the canucks) damn just seen Ryan Hartman didn’t get a qualifying offer from Dallas who just traded for him 24 hours ago lol , guess it’s not going to good for the former 1st rounder

Yzerman Just hired his brother and fired a scout ... it begins

Never said yzerman is a complete moron ... believe what you wanna believe It works best for the both of us

I told you I’d be willing to bet any internet money seider was #2 after byram on the wings list and tuomisto at 35 was probably in the 15-30 range on our list because we were specially targeting dmen early on to fix this mess we been dealing with since lidstrom retired tyler Wright himself on the Draft interviews said they had their sights on tuomisto at 35 , they weren’t going to pick anyone else they liked the guy, again it’s my opinion we were targeting to fix up the d core you don’t wanna have the same opinion that’s fine , that’s my take on it despite what yzerman says before and after the draft? What did he say? You do realize they only tell the media what they want to say right ? They never tell us the truth about everything and hold s*** back, you know this right? So let’s not pretend that it’s impossible for him to urge his draft scouts to specially target dmen that can carry the play because our team is in dire need of it ... he just walks in and says best player available guys , good meeting

I’m not pissed with the seider pick , I would have liked to trade back but it wasn’t possible at least yzerman in his first year went in with the mindset that we need to finally fix this teams biggest problem by a landslide since lidstrom left , I would have preferred Matthew Robertson at 35 and trading up to land another pick for seider but it is what it is and at least yzerman is ready to fix our defence once and for all Too be fair though every gm are going to use the we need help everywhere and we’ll always draft the bpa stuff , it’s repeated every year in every hockey market I do think we had a mindset that we had to fix our defence

So the redwings qualified hicketts , turgeon And rybar glad they didn’t let turgeon And hicketts walk at the very least I think we’d be able to at least have a shot to get later picks for each player frk being not qualified was to be expected hopefully he gets a shot somewhere else but I think it might be the end

Size doesn’t matter lmao How do you know? Have you seen this magical list? Maybe they had him a notch above and decided the need for center was a greater need for them which it was so they did the right move , that teams been lacking a #1 center for 20 years What’s a lesser player for you mean? You think if the wings have 6 forwards ahead of tuomisto and then tuomisto they would have taken the forward ? Cause I don’t nessarily see it that way ... you think if kaliyev was available they’d have taken him or passed? I think they were targeting tuomisto at #35 no matter who was there , Id bet all the internet money you want prior to the draft yzerman told the scouts to specially target dmen that can help this team turn around , I think there’s zero coincidence we targeted 3 dmen with our first 4 picks

We can agree if Rasmussen could have played in the All last season he would have right ? So I wouldn’t look at Rasmussen playing in the nhl and say he’s a better prospect automatically ... I know you didn’t say that I’m just saying it brannstrom is regarded as one of the top prospects not in the nhl yet , outside that he’s an offensive dman who will probably play on the first ppl and be a point producer which I think a lot of teams would love to have , I know we can definetly use him in our system right now cause outside hronek don’t see who’s more a sure thing to hit 45-65pts .... hopefully cholowski Could be wrong but I see him as a future first pair dman with a ton of offensive upside from the back end and I personally think teams would value someone like that more than a Rasmussen type player

We’ll have to yet again agree to disagree no point missed , it’s called a difference of opinion ... they might have had players in the same tier doesn’t mean when it comes time to select and they See zadina ahead of kotkaniemi on the list let’s say,even though they think zadina will have a better statistical career than kotkaniemi they think it won’t be that much better and since they desperately need to find a center and nobody will come here and teams aren’t trading #1centers they just decide to draft the player themselves if you don’t think teams never draft for need Then I don’t know what to tell you , we simply won’t agree on this .... I never said yzerman didn’t want seider at 6 he probably would have taken him at 2 after byram knowing kakko and hughes would be gone cause we were going to address our defence this draft plain and simple , same with #35 tuomisto Who was probably more like 15-25 on the wings list anyways is what it is and I hope it all works out for us

That’s fair , figured a one year deal might be worth a risk and only if he was 100% stralman I’m fine with but I’d see him getting at least 2-3 years , I was trying to get guys on one year deals to flip at the deadline , if we can land 2 of those and get in on a clarkson/Callahan + flip ericsson/Daley/green sometime during the season we should have plenty of assets in a very deep 2020 draft

By now everyone knows I was high on brannstrom and he’s the one I wanted (Probably Cause of my sweet spot for Swedes) but I’d have been happy with foote or valimaki , I wanted to target a dman that year cause or d’s been horrendous for the longest time maybe brannstrom ends up a 25-35 pt guy but I’m pretty sure if you asked 31 gms today including Stevie who they’d take and I’m sure they’d all say brannstrom ... but like we’ve all said it’s a wait and see approach for all these kids but I’d put my money on brannstrom being way better They obviously didn’t think kotkaniemi would be a 2c Which is why they took him also doesn’t mean they thought zadina would be a 2winger they were addressing a need , I live in Montreal so I saw all the media and interviews after , they been looking for a 1c for like 20 years so they finally were gonna address that need Cause it was quite obvious doing so by the draft was the only way it would ever happen so for them addressing the c was #1 priority , same as it seemed with Arizona , also heard them say drafting a C was the only way to get one .... so looks like we’re in agreement that they were addressing a need , which is what I also said about the wings drafting dmen this draft imo i personally wasn’t a big fan of Canadian guys and would have targeted podkolzin as everyone knows cause I thought he has future star written all over him and will turn heads in Vancouver with pettersson, But I’m not mad with seider I was hoping we’d have gotten another pick to take him , now I’m just hoping seider can be a dominate dman cause we need it

I thought I saw a forward sojka on the camp list ? Was he removed? Maybe I was dreaming haha

any news on methot’s injury from last year? If he’s healthy I’d take him for one year if he gets back to what he was before he could turn into a 2nd or 3rd at the deadline

If Tyler Myers gets 8 mill x7 the nhl should just stop now and have another lockout

s*** might have been a little harsh but it has nothing to do with late round picks I just don’t see any “star appeal” ,we all know by now I was pushing hard for brannstrom, heck I’d have taken foote,valimaki or liljgren at that point as we had been ignoring our d problems it seemed since lidstrom left , I still hope Rasmussen turns it around and proves me wrong and becomes a 25-30 goal guy but I personally look at that list and see 5-7dmen and a 3rd liner , But we’ll see I hope petruzzelli hits but I’m not as confident, again I hope I’m wrong ... sure any year you hit 3+ should be considered a hit but for me if those hits are all bottom guys it’s nothing to write home about, just those guys in my eyes are easily attainable i never once said yzerman didn’t know what he was doing but said he was specifically targeting a need for this team regardless what he tells the media , if you don’t think that’s possible I don’t know what to tell you , habs openly admitted they took kotkaniemi to fill a need at C since drafting one was the only way to find a #1C , Arizona admitted it as well with Hayden ... it happens

I was just giving an example but yes, for all we know they might have had Lavoie and some of the guys above tuomisto thinking they wouldn’t be there figured we don’t like that forward as much as we know we have to fill up the pool with good dmen , tuomisto’s close on our list let’s go .... hakan also said Wright was fighting for that pick at 35 so who knows who we would have taken before or after the draft? And yes our d is weaker than our forward group imo , oh and yes I’m well aware there were better ranked players at d than tuomisto and we took him cause we saw something , I’d just have preferred Matthew Robertson but we’ll see in 3-5 yrs what becomes of these picks like krs said prior and see if we f***ed up or not

Fair enough , also didn’t see star potential in 2017 and that’s turning into s*** ... win some lose some and I said I liked seider so there’s your one in 2019? Haha hope I’m wrong thoug Yes I’m well aware that it’s difficult to gauge where anyone will be in 1-5 years , I’m still entitled to my opinion like you said it’s hard to see what will be of these guys and some won’t make it but I still think we passed imo on guys with bigger upside and some teams took those guys around the same ballpark so they obviously saw something we didn’t anyways hopefully we find another dman outside of seider , something tells me johansson will be better than the 35th

I think it’s quite obvious by our weak prospect pool at d that we did in fact target more need over bpa , and no I’m not mad about seider pick ,just think when they feed the media the it was the bpa on our list stuff they might love the kid but I don’t know If I’d believe that some picks were the best players on their lists , might have had 3-4 forwards on the list and then a dman they picked and think well the difference isn’t that much off in our eyes , Let’s take the d I firmly believe we went into this draft with the sole purpose to fill our cupboard up with dmen, that’s fine it’s something that had to be done with our past track record I just personally don’t see anyone outside seider with star upside from this draft , sure grewe can be a nice player but likely a 3rd liner and so on , but we’ll see what happens and on a side note , from here, other boards, twitter a lot of people seem to be excited about these d prospects as if there all locks to make the future roster with hronek,cholowski,mcisaac And it seems that everyone’s forgotten about 6’4 Alec regula who I still consider a pretty good prospect on our team and who should get a ton more responsibilities with London next season and that only means good things for his future and the wings

Nice to see some invites , Limoges had 50 pts in ncaa so maybe he might surprise .... hopefully they invite a few more guys , would have loved barinka who went undrafted and I still think he has upside to have a big season with all those 20 year old kids gone

3 of the 4 first picks were dmen and with some of the names available on the board I don’t think that just so happened to be cause they were the bpa Can’t wait till out forward depth gets better next season with our lottery pick

110% agreed , sign a few guys to one year deals hope they have good enough seasons we can flip them for decent picks along with green and whoever else and while at it flip Daley and ericsson now, hicketts And saarijarvi If possible .... get Clarkson and/or Callahan for picks we had 11 picks this year we already have 9 I want a freakin collection in a supposed way better draft than 2019 was ... aim for 13-16 at this point with already at 9 and if we need to flip a few for 2021 later in the draft do so on draft day but we have a ton of garbage that we need to be rid of and we need to take teams other garbage at this point as well and yes at this stage where we are hard pass on Kadri

Can’t be dissapointed we didn’t end up drafting back to get extra picks ? Ya I’m well aware Holland would have taken him I’m just saying it sucks , that’s it that’s all

Outside of hedman that list of d drafted is write home about lol , makes more depressed now ... thanks haha Yup after that they’ll decide where he goes

No s*** Sherlock