nyqvististhefuture

Reason to demote him to the minors is so he can get better , that’s what teams do ya know? I’d rather see him getting 20+ minutes a night and ppl time in Grand Rapids than 10-12 here and you know deep down with guys like Nielsen,helm and glendening here he won’t be viewed as our 7th best forward ... I’m just trying not to f*** up this kid already and turning him into a bottom line guy, he was our 9th pick I want him to succeed Grand Rapids are gonna be stacked this year , maybe he plays with a veleno and svechnikov to start the year or something similar and goes nuts and gets called up after 15-20 games , who knows what will happen with this team all depends if yzerman signs someone and/or gets rid of some deadweight

Our Larkin line right now is solid , for me if we landed podkolzin and veleno turns out to be a 2c which I’m hoping for a zadina veleno podkolzin Might eventually turn into our 1st line , if not it’s gotta be zegras for me and veleno probably ends up on the 3c and we get zadina zegras Berggren Maybe down the road at 35 for me beecher/tracey But have a feeling both can move into the first round with puistola if not I’d say we target kolyachonok/misyul or some other dman unless we move up which I can see happening put lavoie,Seider, And hoglander in What discussion? Rangers will pick kakko

I don’t that’s fine you don’t like the kid I think everyone’s severely overreacting and gonna regret it when he becomes a star ... as long as we take a turcotte/zegras Instead I’ll be ok so long as it’s not dach/cozens

Thing is I want rasmussen at best to end up like a 45-65 pt guy at least ,scared playing with those 2 and always playing with guys like that on a line we’re gonna develop him into a guy who gets occasional goals on the ppl and ends up being a 10-15 goal guy and 20-28 pts which is not what I want our 9th pick to turn out to be , I’d like to see him start down and just dominate the ahl and get confidence back

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1781182 hed look great in any number he wants since 19 is taken

I wouldn’t think we’d be the oilers if we made the playoffs I’d just think it would be a waste at this moment cause I think we’d be outed first round and miss out on a franchise type prospect and yes I know , playoff experience etc... id just prefer to get the high end talent at this point to go with all the top prospects we’re getting now I just don’t think we’ll be adding any ufa’s at this point unless it’s a player with a short deal , 1-2 years max .... non of the top stars will want to come to Detroit now , I think next July will be when we make our big splash

Again getting rid of all 3 at the same time is easier said than done , Daley is the most realist to be deal ... not enough roster spots for someone like veleno at the moment and I can easily see him coming down for the last 10 games like zadina did last year unless we suffer a ton of horrible injuries I seriously doubt the #6 pick will start next season unless we have another Rasmussen situation and after the season went I’m sure they’ll keep the pick down , I can’t see that pick playing in Detroit, as for Rasmussen I’d personally see him down and dominating that playing with ehn and and delarose , svechnikov I doubt starts in Detroit unless he goes bezerk in the preseason, he hasn’t played in a long time and will likely start down we’ll see what happens , between making a trade or some player on a 1-2 yr deal I’m sure yzerman will get someone Trade for Callahan and picks eat salary and trade Callahan for a pick Tell trouba to be patient and wait till July 2020 and he won’t regret it draft one of byram turcotte podkolzin trade up and land a beecher/tracey type prospect pretend teams are calling in on Darren helm and have ken Holland call him frantically and offering him a pick celebrate 4th of July by getting s*** faced

Ideally that top 6 you have is what the lines will look like to start , Rasmussen was the 9th overall pick do we really wanna start moulding him into being a bottom 6 guy? He might be headed that way and that’s fine but do we really wanna stump his offensive production and his confidence by putting him with ehn and delarose? He needs to go down and play a ton of minutes and hopefully turn out to be an offensive force , putting him with ehn and delarose will just kill the kid #6 pick regardless of who it is won’t start next season , we just have to accept the fact abdelkader and Nielsen aren’t going anywhere , helm possibly I wouldn’t bet for it happening

Think we all understand we’re not trying to tank and we just suck plain and simple , from a coach who thinks it’s a good idea put our bottom line guys at the end of the game to try and get a goal to the roster just not being good now by best players I’m guessing you mean the kids ? Well I can’t see cholowski starting the season with the club , Rasmussen I think it would be better for him to start down at least for 10-20 games and play a ton of minutes and get top ppl time , Same with veleno .... only kid for sure playing 100% all season is hronek ,hirose will start and has a good chance to stay the season If he plays like he did at the end of last season but if he starts to wander off for 15-20 games he’ll get sent down Same with zadina ... so I don’t know what most people are expecting but I’m expecting same as Last season , us trying to win and we’ll fall near the bottom unless we start trading for trouba now and adding Karlsson and getting a panarin or some drastic moves It’ll be another long season , most of the kids aren’t ready for full time duties to help us get over the hump , it is what it is at the moment

I get exactly what your saying I just think we’d be better off longterm with a top 5 pick in a very deep 2020 draft than say 17th , I get what your saying that you don’t want us to build a losing culture by tanking every year and would want to see us compete I just don’t think that would happen in our case as long as the players keep progressing and getting better which they will, our most important players that will help guide us to a better future haven’t even played a full season yet so I’m not worried if we finished towards the bottom that we’ll be the next oilers If we have easily one of the worse d’s in the league and it won’t change much + an aging goalie which will result in games lost , a good scenario in my mind is something like if we finished 5th worst but we’re like 10 pts away from being 11th , gives us a good enough shot at a great pick and it shows we’re not far off from being a playoff team and beyond i never brough up getting a 2021 lottery pick the only time I mentioned 2021 is when I believed we’d be ready to make some noise and be real good in the 2020-2021 season, I’m not expecting us to be this big up and coming team next year.... yes AA and mantha should be more consistent and better as you mentioned but hronek will be in his first full nhl season , I’m sure there will be mistakes at times but it’s nothing to worry about and part of the learning progress ,Same will happen likely with zadina and cholowski will probably start down I don’t think we’ll have many prospects up this season full time , hronek , hirose and maybe zadina plays all year but that’s not even 100% yet , point is for me anyways you can hope or think we’ll finish around 10th I don’t think it’ll happen especially with the horrendous back end we have and young guys playing full seasons but I do think we’re on the up , let’s not forget all the teams around us who will be better or stay the same? Would anyone be shocked if the only team were ahead of next season is Ottawa ?if you look at the standings and teams there’s not that many you can look at and say we’re better than those teams for sure next season There’s zero decisions from yzerman that will be based on trying to win the lottery, yzermans priority is to make the team better now and into the future Not tank , I’m just saying I don’t think we’re good enough today unless we signed Karlsson and traded for trouba and made those types of moves to be in playoff contention for the upcoming season and for me personally I’d prefer to be close in the standings all year and in the last 10 games lose close games and end up with a top pick, that’s it pure and simple ... you don’t like my take and that’s fine I don’t agree with your opinions what’s not to understand? You don’t agree with mine , guess what I don’t care I don’t wanna keep going about the same thing over and over for another 12 hrs plain and simple, guess you don’t understand that don’t you worry about buppy and i’s convo

Lmao It’s called done repeating the same s*** over and over and it’s going nowhere so why continue this nonsense for 2 more days , but ya “k.o”

Where did I say our prospects would suck if we drafted 13th instead of 3rd? We took care of business in 2018 and hopefully we will again but those kids aren’t ready to make some noise yet in the nhl or if they play they won’t be counted on yet to be impactful players , I’m saying we’d be better off longterm with a top 5 pick in 2020, preferably top 3 if you wanna shoot for the stars, how can we not be ? hawks have a ton of good d prospects as is but might add byram for example , we might have zadina,veleno, #6 pick but if we added a top 3 pick and Got lafreniere,holtz Or Raymond let’s say to add to that core group we should be that much better off longterm , ask hawks and pens fans how much a top 3 pick can change a team and yes you can bring up the oilers but teams been a s*** show for 10+yrs now they have no clue wtf they been doing are we likely to win the lottery next year? Probably not but I’ll tell you what if we still have that brilliant defense from last season we have as good a shot as anyone else to have a top 5 pick , as much as I like our top 6 and hronek’s progression our defensive core group is atrocious and Howard is aging so who knows how he’ll be next season im not worried about developing a losing culture , yzerman is here now and every wings fan should be confident this thing will get turned around, he also preached patience so doesn’t mean we’ll all of a sudden be 4 pts out of a playoff spot , you see how close the standings were last season? It’ll likely be the same again , as long as the young guys like Larkin,mantha,bertuzzi,hronek,AA,hirose keep going upwards we’ll be heading in the right direction ... and I know some people support blashill here but I don’t and think this is mos this likely his last season as head coach here and for me that’ll only mean that things will get better picking 17th also means we’d make the playoffs and I don’t think we’re there just yet ...Tampa ,Toronto,Boston,caps,pens are probably locks then you have teams like On the upswing like Carolina,nyi,mtl and if Florida gets panarin and babrovsky , realistically I don’t see us getting in or close ....I could be wrong but I don’t see it , 2020-2021 in my head is where I think things turn for us , yes a top pick would be nice but also believe trouba will be here and zadina will be more ready , hopefully Rasmussen and veleno, adding another free agent beside trouba this teams goal will will always be to win they don’t care about the lottery position ,I myself personally am hoping we get a great pick and our younger players on this team just keeps getting better and learning the game , our Grand Rapids team is gonna be stacked full of promising young players this year and griffins season will have just as much of an impact on our future as the kids on the wings next year , should be a fun season to watch all the kids playing I understood perfectly it’s not my f***en problem you don’t understand that I believe there’s a zero percent chance of Foote being dealt for example to get rid of a contract regardless of your examples of moves that happened 3 years ago, teams have learned from those stupid mistakes anyways yes it is all good I’m done with this nonsense

Oh I understand what your saying I just don’t agree with anything your saying , comprehend that? I’m done with this bs

Karlsson would demand more money and term than green cause he’s simply better ,You’d prefer green shorter money and term today over Karlsson that’s fine , Agree to disagree

Lots of players don’t make the league till 21-22 lots of them also become wastes so there’s no guarantee this so called proven prospect will turn out to be a mantha yes right now raddysh has every chance of making it than any 2nd round picks ... you should call mcisaac and let him know Could Foote be moved be to trade Callahan? Sure if yzerman injects some heroine into briseboi and make him sign his name on the paper , will it happen? 100% no , happy? Just cause you try and make yourself seem out to be some knowledgeable ahole doesn’t make it so , I understand all your bulls*** just don’t agree with all of it on these matters you should go preach it to so someone else who’ll agree with you it’s clear as day we’re annoying the s*** out of eachother and this bs has run its course You don’t wanna read , Mind your business and move On

Well I think it makes a difference whether we get a top 5 pick let’s say or get 13th unless get lucky and pull off another Larkin type pick , better luck being closer to the top , Same with our second rounders next years draft is suppose to be as good if not better than this years draft so yes I’m looking ahead and thinking of the future , yes we have some nice young pieces but zadina,veleno,Berggren,mcisaac and countless others haven’t even played a full season yet and Rasmussen is likely to start in Grand Rapids , I know it sucks and I want us to win cups as quick as possible but I’m trying to think longterm so we’re not like the oilers and make the playoffs once or twice Every 12 yrs im sure yzerman doesn’t want us to continue to suck, I’m sure we’ll be competitive and win some games And even lose close ones I just hope either we get lucky somehow and win the lottery or all the teams for the most part are close in the standings again and if it’s clear with 5-6 games we won’t get in I hope we drop from 8th to 3rd , anyways we’ll see what happens this season either way I’ll be excited to watch the kids in Detroit get better and hopefully some griffins games as well

Ken Holland is salivating at the thought of landing phaneuf

I have no idea what your going on about , who’s 33 making 5-6 a year? Cause that sure as s*** not burns You can use your average stats to bring down Karlsson’s #s but his stats are only lower cause of 2 seasons, specially one, he’s played in 71 games + 7/10 seasons and had 60+ Pts 6/10 and 5 of last 6 yrs he’s easily one of the top dmen in the league it’s not even up for debate, it’s his durability and his supposed s*** numbers he’ll be posting in 5 years that we’re debating

Right , says you Picked those names cause I remembered them having good seasons and well talked about, bellows was a good player for the u.s ... point is there all 20-22 and as of today accomplished f*** all nhl wise , if you think trading 2nds for those types of players would make us better off we’ll I’m just grateful you don’t have Stevie on your contact list all depends on the player that’s been undrafted as of yet , s*** raddysh is more ahead on his development than kakko at this point ... Just because a player like beecher will go in the second doesn’t mean he won’t make it to the league sooner than raddysh would age wise , a lot of teams are salivating at beecher and wouldn’t shock me at all if he’s picked in the first round , we’ll ahesd of your precious raddysh was just let let go of your Foote infatuation , if Tampa really wants to move cap space they’ll buy out callahan rather than give away their top prospect , wake up all these prospect trades you keep talking about happened 3-4 yrs ago , you don’t think teams have seen what has happened and realized it’s not a smart move? And none of those guys moved were their respective teams top prospects ... but hey it’s fine keep thinking Foote gets moved That’s fine , Stay away from crippled washed up erik You should go talk to your dog then , ask Stevie if he can trade one of our seconds for some dog treats while your at it

Thanks for proving my point lmao no problem man , I’m sure in a few years I’ll be adding your raddysh to that list ya don’t worry about my dumb logic , you go trade a 2nd for raddysh, another for wade Allison and the other for kieffer bellows and you tell me how great that known commodity bulls*** works out for ya hes not a proven prospect , he’s 21 and played 0 nhl games , he hasn’t proved s*** for all we know he’ll end up a 3rd line player and we have those in abundance or better yet he can still be a bust .... you just said there’s a reason not many “proven” prospects are traded for picks and yet you think we’ll get him to get a player with a one year deal left or a pick ... ok If Karlsson was with San Jose and locked up and they traded him for Foote sure yes they’d do it but your talking about trading the 14th pick and best d prospect on the team to get rid of a guy with one year left For picks(which you just finished saying teams don’t trade prospects for picks) And i never said Foote would never be traded , I said countless times if it was a hockey trade involving prospects or impact players he could be moved Fine forget Allison , julien gauthier Or whoever you keep doing those trades for guys who will be 2nd or 3rd line guys , with that thinking you’ll never get impact star players unless we always hit on our 1sts or get lucky like we did in the 80s-90s and draft stars in the late rounds i dont spin s*** man your the one who keeps bringing up his injury histories like he’s on a f***en wheelchair when outside of last season he hasn’t played in fewer than 71 games per year so I don’t know wtf your going on about Oh I comprehend s*** just fine don’t worry ... and yes Callahan is the best player to move and will be deal and you can target raddysh all you want but in the end they’ll likely end up moving a 3rd pick ,2nd if a team is lucky to move a player with a single season left on his deal

Wouldn’t despise zegras , not too big a fan of the 54-66 picks though , hopefully we’ll move up or some guys like holmstrom,fagemo,thrun fall to us , have a feeling we’ll pick up someone sooner who we see upside like struble,ahac,lacombe should be a nice draft to watch

I’m sure I can name countless other hosangs and raddysh can very well likely be another ... the wings have a lot of forward prospects with top 6 upside as is and I’d personally rather keep the pick than a raddysh and try and land a top line or d pair prospect that falls into the 2nd rd if we’re gonna come up short with that strategy then what’s the point of collecting second round picks? Might as well trade them all ? Let’s call up the flyers and get wade Allison for a 2nd ... the whole point of getting more seconds is to have more cracks at hitting a homerun player , what if the pick we traded away ended up resulting in us losing out on a big time player? Again We have a ton of kids likely in the top 6 coming as it is so I’d pass on raddysh , you wouldn’t and that’s just fine top contending teams like tampa also heavily rely on top prospects to fill in the roster spots with cheaper contracts to keep them competitive go ask the leafs if they’ll trade away sandin,liljgren , teams with cap problems will rely on the prospects to come up and help them win karlsson is a free agent in a few weeks so that won’t happen, and why would tampa want him he’s damaged goods right ? There’s other ways of Tampa getting rid of salary and McDonough and hedman are 30 or near 30 , they have no yound d prospects to come up the ranks for the future it’s basically Foote so no at this stage I can’t see them trading Foote

Ok whatever you say bud , were not gonna agree on this one and I’m sure your as fed up as I am with the back and forth on this nonsense , we know where each other stand on this ... I’m done

You should ask them how josh hosang Is doing , or those guys with great ahl numbers at 21 over second rounds like pk,Weber etc...... we have enough “middle six” guys in our pipeline coming why would we have to absolutely ask for one back? I’d rather get a top 60 pick and try make our own luck and find someone who can be a top pairing dman or top line player over the 58th pick drafted kid Thx for letting me know at least why you like the kid , still don’t think we should target him imo and you seem to think Foote will be easily just thrown away for picks,Callahan ...”whatever” “you” “say” Fyi cup contending teams like Tampa heavily count on top prospects to keep coming in to keep them a competitive team going for the cup , if these guys are the top prospects on the club they won’t just trade them away to get rid of a guy with 1 yr left or for late 2nds , hey but wtf do I know

God your ridiculous , I just finished telling you teams might trade a top prospect but it’ll be for another prospect or star player not for a f***en player with one year left on his contract , it’s nice to have dreams but you should be more realistic heck even I been dreaming there’s no way Tampa will trade the 27th pick for a guy with one year left on his deal , best case scenario Detroit or anyone else will probably end up with a 3rd when it’s all said and done fine ... 0.5% chance Foote gets moved to get rid of a player with 1 year left on his deal ... Tampa won’t move their 14th overall pick and best d prospect with hedman and McDonough creeping 30 to get rid of a guy with one year left on his deal , even if they get a 54 and 66pick , would you get rid of cholowski to get rid of abdelkader? I wouldn’t and he has 4 more years on his deal so why the f*** would Tampa do it to get rid of a guy with one year on his contract . Come on when I talked about bean and fabbro , realistically it’s a pipedream that’ll never happen but I wasn’t talking about trading for them by taking Scott darling or something stupid , was talking about trading AA+ svechnikov or some type of deal not expecting those guys to be given to us for taking a bad contract