nyqvististhefuture

It’s not one single player alone, It’s a collective with this draft as well as hopefully the 3 2nds next year (if sj resigns nyquist) and hopefully future drafts where we hit late, free agency etc.. that will make us a team that can compete for the cup hopefully for 20-30 years like we previously did, never said we’d hit a homerun with the 2020 pick and we’d be cup contenders the next year but we’re headed the right way , if we start making the playoffs next year we’ll just be another bubble team that’s around yearly, we have to get this rebuild done right Yet you seem to know Karlsson won’t ? Karlsson isn’t a beast ? He’s been putting up big numbers ever since he’s been in the league on a yearly basis ... what makes you so sure burns can be productive later on and not Karlsson? Only cause burns has a similar build as chara? Karlsson isn’t as damaged goods as you seem to think he is and will be .... f***en mike green was on pace for 50 pts last year at 33 now your gonna tell me you don’t think Karlsson will be as productive as green at 33? Come on man Karlsson is on an elite level, ppl time alone he will get his 50 pts im not talking about taking one player or the other , in a best case scenario we get both without giving up nothing trouba will demand for 8-9 for sure

All depends where we obviously draft in 2020, there’s a ton of amazing kids next year lafraniere,Raymond,holtz,lundell,byfield,the Russian goalie who’s name escapes me plus more guys , very deep draft ... one of those pieces plus the pieces in this draft and what we already have is what will change our fortunes , we need to stockpile top assets well hopefully we win the lottery and go from 6 to 2 or something like that , and maybe we don’t get a mcdavid but a draisaitl , or another Larkin .... having 2 Larkin’s on the same team + zadina etc.. wouldn’t be such a bad thing i don’t wanna be patient forever but I’m willing to go till next year if it means not being a bottom team for another 20-30 years ,I don’t wanna just toy with playoffs every year I want our team to dominate, Holland didn’t leave us with as many high end talent as you’d like to think , and he also left us with a bunch of horrible contracts every team that isn’t a cup contenders goal is to make the playoffs , I wanna aim higher, if zadina plays full time he’ll still be a rookie and good chances Rasmussen and cholowski start down so we’ll basically have one stud line and then AA (and who knows if he’ll get 30 again) in the top 6 ?hirose had a nice end to the season but he’d still be a rookie so who knows how he would be in a full season , a lot of question marks still and not enough overall high end skill and our overall defense right now is still brutal so I wouldn’t be expecting us to be competing for a spot March/April

Stat sheets tells us if a player will a good player duh

Yet outside this seasons 53 games he’s played 71+ every season , the fact of bringing up he’s 4 years younger is to say if burns at 33 can be this productive Karlsson sure as s*** will be and you don’t think teams saw what Vegas did and learned? There’s already talk of how Seattle will get f***ed over now cause teams saw what happened with Vegas and won’t make the same mistake , many strange things have happened but trading Foote to get rid of Callahan with one year deal left has a zero % chance of happening, now if your talking a hockey trade Foote for a young d prospect or a 1st or an impact player coming back that’s a different story not sure if you saw the world juniors and seen beecher play but the kids got huge upside and I’m sure if you’d ask Ppl in the hockey world they’d say they’d pick beecher if they had to pick between one or the other , so what that raddysh was drafted 3 years ago and finished first pro season and got 40 pts? We suppose to be exited now?pretty sure beecher would be more we’ll known around the hockey circles than raddysh What makes this kid such a special prospect that you keep insisting we ask for him , if he’s that good surely Tampa would decline , I haven’t seen you say anything you like about him just that you keep insisting we demand this kid in a trade and I just can’t understand why , anyways it’s your perogative to like who you like I’d personally try and flip a pick and get the 27th if we can

Freak of nature ha , you realize outside of last season Karlsson has played 70+ a season you seem to have this inexplicable hate for the guy, your right it’s not even close to a similar situation he’s 4 years younger and his ppg is better than burns Beecher = beecher Foote is basically the only d they have in the pipeline like the last 5+ years that was drafted within the first 3 rounds , it’s nice to think we’d have a shot but it won’t happen, especially not to get rid of a contract You take the known over the unknown any day? If that’s the case there would never be steals in trades between teams , it’s called scouting and doing your due diligence, what’s so known about raddysh?last Ive checked he played 0 nhl games and was drafted 58 what makes him such a good player? 40 pts in the ahl? Lots of guys get 40 pts and become nothing , hosang got 36 pts in 50 games and became nothing but this raddysh is such a known commodity , if he is Tampa won’t give him away for one year of Callahan , if they threw him in so easily I’d be thinking twice about making that deal

I wouldn’t put too much stock into Rasmussen at #9 , we might have had 3 top 10 picks, (one which we haven’t even picked yet) but zero cracks at a top 3 let alone top 5 which is where the game changers are, our current best players and how’s that working out for us ? Doesn’t work out when we have a handful of good players that weee drafted with us getting in since like 2010 and the rest are pretty much scrubs, we had a great 2018 draft when we didn’t get in and we should again in 2019 this is what we need as tough as it is , 2017 draft was basically a crapshoot veleno,zadina,mcisaac haven’t even played one nhl game and cholowski and hronek are still young and learning , Same can be said about the 2019 picks who haven’t even been drafted yet you need to be patient

This is just the impatience talking , 2020 is going to be an unreal draft I wouldn’t be pissed at all if we didnt make any moves outside of taking bad contracts like Callahan and getting a top 5 pick , we have a great draft this season along with 2020 and the 2020-2021 season we’ll be scaring a lot of teams and be on a huge upswing it sucks nlt being in the playoffs but it sucks more to get in every year for 25-30 years and getting outed yearly and getting 19th overall , we need some top A prospects

Foote is a nice pipe dream but there’s zero chance Tampa will involve trading away a 14th overall pick in Foote , he’s gonna be one of the younger future dmen of the team learning from hedman etc.. if worse comes to worse they’d just offer the 2020 2nd and Callahan and someone will bite on it 100% if they said its it’s that or nothing to Holland I’d do it but I’d try and get the 27th for 60 or 66th and maybe like a 4th or 5th in 2020 and send back like delarose or something on the lower end if we have to add Where’s broberg coming from? Zero chance we take him at #6 Ya Foote isn’t happening at all , rather keep the second over raddysh and try and land a kotchekov,fagemo,holmstrom,kolyachonok,thrun,struble ... someone with upside don’t wanna have to give up a 2nd round pick for a forward when we already have a ton of forwards with potential coming real soon + the 6th pick , Foote different story but I don’t see them trading him at all

First I don’t think AA will be here longterm I don’t invision it especially if he gets 30 again , we had a hard time negotiating with him and I can totally see it happening again and yzerman would cut him in a heart beat , think mantha would be bigger priority to resign and he should plus we’ll have the 6th pick and who knows who else in the 2nd rd,zadina ,veleno etc... we have a ton of kids who’ll fill up the top 6 lines no problem The thing with Karlsson is he’s got hockey smarts on the offensive side and will always be a force, especially on the ppl he will get his 60-75 pts , he’s 29 not dead, as long as he takes care of himself which more athletes do these days he should be productive at 35. Burns was 33 and got like 80 pts I love Brent burns but there’s no way he’s a better offensive defensemen than Karlsson, I think 100% he’ll still put up big numbers as well , giordano 35 yrs old 70+ I’m sorry no way he’s better ... your concerned about the injuries and that’s fine I’m not as much, if he plays 60-70 and is ready for the playoffs that’s all that matters to me Don’t want any prospects , they won’t give us Foote and not too interested in anyone else. If we can land the 27th for the 60th or 66th and some other picks or lower assets involved and we somehow ended up with a John beecher I’d be pumped with that alone

Won’t let me upload the pic for some reason ... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9C7JI4X4AAsGYM?format=jpg&name=medium but Damnnn ... more proof we shouldn’t care too much about stats numbers being put up and should look into the future projections *cough* *cough* podkolzin

Erik Karlsson today is a better dman stats wise , he can easily put up 60-75 a year for years to come , maybe in 5 years it’ll be different but I don’t see it he’s just one of the best offensive defensemen in the game , I think if he was 100% healthy you wouldn’t be second guessing Karlsson being a wing ,i on the other hand would roll the dice and take a chance on Karlsson + trouba 2020 .... I know I know I keep flip flopping on the 2020 pick, if I knew 100% Karlsson wanted to be a redwing and we’d get trouba in a season and basically got both for free I don’t know if I could say no to that thats a lot of internet money you have on the line

How did I Have a feeling it be a different situation for trouba So Karlsson a basically a pensioner so your willing to bet internet money that it’ll happen four years in a row now? Lol

Just some info on some prospects , some of you might want to get your guns ready to shoot him for the podkolzin comments haha , he also has zegras at #3 , thinks he’s got 100 pt potential , zegras was my 2nd pick after podkolzin but liking it more now

You can say the same thing about trouba at that point , He’d be a great addition but wouldn’t get us over the hump ... either pieces or both(yes I’m greedy) would be huge steps into getting us in that direction ... better options? I know your talking trouba but can’t see why we couldn’t have both , and not too many options better than erik Karlsson at d, I think it’s the injuries that are concerning you but I still think he’s a valuable player Chicago got beyond lucky , wouldn’t count on another 8-12 team falling into the top 3 back to back seasons , 2020 is a special draft and would do wonders for our team ,just thinking of adding lafraniere or one of the Swedish kids and potentially adding them to a podkolzin and beecher as well as veleno,zadina,Berggren and others up now the wings have the potential to be a power house real soon Hahaha internet money is the best money to bet , think if we’re gona move him the sooner the better , he pops 32 pts I can’t see too many teams wanting a 3.5 mill aging 36 yr old forward , hopefully I’ll be wrong from what I been seeing lately I noticed he’d probably be a wing anyways, cozens will look nice next to eichel

I said I would sign him, of course he can make an impact on this team he’s one of the best defensemen in the league, easily still gonna get 60-75 pts yearly , just imagine a top 4 of ... karlsson hronek trouba cholowski in 2 years this team would be turned around a lot quicker than anyone would think , I said 4 years max to be safe with the injury concerns I’d personally be willing to make it 7 cause if he’s hurt and can’t play it’ll just be franzen/zetterberg situation and we get cap relief but it’s not my money to spend .... but the downside like I said of landing a Karlsson would be most likely ******* up our 2020 draft lottery chances, all s*** to consider same as people who won’t stop yapping about trouba, we land trouba today we can likely say goodbye to a top 5 pick anyways it’s more likely than not he goes to Montreal or Tampa imo , he wants to win now best thing to do longterm is trouba 2020 and a top 3-5 pick just hard not to like the thought of Karlsson in a wings jersey Thing with Nielsen is he’s also 35 and gonna be 38 when the deal ends , that’s a big thing to think about, I don’t see him moving at this point though But the 6th pick won’t play center :p

July 1 2020

Yes it’s funny cause of my username but I hope to god we stay away from Nyquist and I think with yzerman as gm now we will, we just have a ton of kids coming we can’t afford to give a spot away to Nyquist for 5 years, might even have to move AA at some point soon mantha,bertuzzi,larkin ....hirose,zadina,Rasmussen,veleno,#6 pick,maybe a beecher/holmstrom etc.. in the second ,berggren , svechnikov if he ever pans out ... having Nyquist oh the 3rd for years 3-5 at 5 mill I don’t think would be a good move , hopefully sj resigns him so we get a 2nd Can’t see both lindstrom and mcisaac in Detroit in 2020 , is mcisaac eligible for Grand Rapids next season? Can’t See both playing a single season in the ahl and moving up right away kronwall,Daley,green,ericsson will be gone by 2020 100% regardless if they stay in Detroit next season so that’s not a problem

Probably right but I can’t see too many contending teams with room to sign him and I didn’t say I didn’t think we’d be competing for the playoffs in 4 years,just worse case scenario we don’t get in Karlsson who we got as a free asset can turn into a nice return for us come trade deadline, that’s all but assuming hronek keeps developing into a stud, cholowski gets 30-50 annually,we land trouba in 2020 , podkolzin at 6(yes I know some aren’t a fan) and other kids like zadina,veleno develop I do think we’d be a very competitive team in 3-4 years I do think we’re on the rise but I’m hoping for another disaster season if we have the same roster , 2020 draft is gonna be damn good , I think in 3-4 years we’ll be making noise(probably closer to 3) we’ll have to agree to disagree on blashill who would want Nielsen though? Even at 3.5? Till 38 years old to get 30-35 pts a year , I can’t see too many teams calling up , again ken Holland is the guy I’d be calling right away

Your right but we have dead weight in Daley,ericsson and I can’t see green,kronwall and witkowski being here in 2020 so we should have a ton of spaces looking ahead

Probably not but I don’t know how many contending teams would sign him for 7 years with the issues he’s been dealing with, maybe Montreal? Can’t think of anyone else ... and yes if we got him I can’t see him being moved but if we signed him for 4 years let’s say and year 4 it’s clear we won’t make the playoffs provided he doesn’t pull a green and is hurt we’d easily get a nice return back i do agree that we’re a bad team but I also think we’re not as bad as our record stated , I think our coach is a problem and we have a lot of good pieces , obviously goaltending will be an issue with Howard on the verge of retiring but say we got Karlsson we’d have Karlsson,hronek and green on the back end which isn’t too shabby and the obvious Bert mantha Larkin line that was on fire along with AA, maybe zadina and hirose? Nice prospects coming +this years draft but I mean I get what your saying , we won’t win a cup and last thing we want is Karlsson coming and getting us 10th overall next June rather than #3,2,1 all depends what yzerman does this offseason , can’t really see anybody having interest in abdelkader were forced to keep him at least a few more seasons and then buying him out, at 5+ for Nielsen for another 3 years and 35 I don’t trading him is as easy as you might believe, we’d 100% have to eat salary and I’d be calling the gm that signed him but problem is they have enough bad contracts to deal with themselves

Abdelkader has a zero percent chance of being moved but man I hope yzerman pulls some crazy s*** and somehow gets Nielsen and helm moved

I hope I’m wrong and he turns it around, think he starts in Grand Rapids though Difference between us and Columbus is Karlsson would cost us zero assets , if we decide to move him at any point he’d get us a 1st plus multiple assets back in return easily our biggest issue is defense and he’s easily one of the best defensement in the league, yes I know he dealt with injury issues but he’d still get 60-75 pts but I’d only be comfortable with a shorter deal up to 4 years not 7 i do think longterm it would be better to not sign anyone so we get a top 5 pick in a very deep 2020 draft and with where Detroit is I highly doubt he comes , only like 2 hrs to Ottawa by plane though and if Alfie talked us up it could happen although very unlikely ... I’d say surprisingly Montreal is the #1 place right now with all the rumours

Agreed minus Karlsson( If a 4 year deal is doable,which I doubt) was just trying to guess who he possibly “might have interest in” but I think we should just stick with being patient and keep going in the right direction Yes ironic, soak it in Does witkowski count? Alrighttttt Luke! Stop f***en texting me nonstop I’ll give you a one year deal , smashes phone

f*** pretty much hope he stays far away from everyone of the players you mentioned lol