nyqvististhefuture

So it doesn’t happen , wait till next summer or move on ... we’re a rebuilding franchise going on the up especially if we draft smart in 19 and 20 , we’re in no position to be giving away 2-3 top assets for a 25 yr old who’s a year away from ufa who’s been rumoured to wanting to come home for years nothing would piss me off more at this point if we traded veleno and cholowski and the 35 th pick and then hearing trouba talking to the media all excited saying he’s been wanting to come home for years and was counting down the days wait a year , he goes elsewhere it’ll suck but we’ll live If he’s dealt on trade deadline day he’ll get a 1st rounder + and there’s no way we’d deal the #6 now or next years 1st so the cost will be high won’t be 2 2nds , they want to win now

Haha Foote would be nice but don’t see it happening ... we’ll even better his agent has all those Michigan guys and wings players .... as for all these trade scenarios your putting out there I think it would be moronic with where this team is and trouba being a ufa in one season and all the coming home to Detroit talk that’d been going on for years to give up cholowski and veleno or cholowski and AA now ... one more year man For the longterm future trouba hronek cholowski mcisaac Or trouba hronek cholowski (young d prospect in AA deal) mcisaac or if trouba doesn’t come hronek cholowski (young dman in AA deal) mcisaac whether we get trouba for free or he moves on I think we’ll be ok either way ,I’ve been weary of veleno and don’t wanna get my hopes up but I’m not willing to move him at this point and I’m thinking he and zadina together can be a fixture for a very longtime , first line is written in stone in my eyes for years zadina veleno podkolzin zadina turcotte veleno zadina veleno zegras zadina veleno caufield point is I think veleno has a very good shot at being a second line player with zadina and the 6th pick overall at this point .... guys like svechnikov,AA,Rasmussen might end up being the trade baits some point , right now I just sit back and drink and wait till July 2020

At the end of the day if he really wants to come back to Detroit he’s one year away from making it a reality , and I’m sure his agent has talked to yzerman and knows his interest and ballpark figures on contract terms so if he wants to come to Detroit he will I don’t think he will just sign with any team that gives him a good contract, could be proven wrong so wtf do I know , we’ll have to just wait and see

But he’s not forced to sign a contract just because he’s dealt , look at duchene and Karlsson? If he gets traded so be it until he signs a contract extension I’m not worried at all. He’s waited so long to control his own destiny and leave Winnipeg and now he’s a year away I don’t think he’s gonna rush things and just sign a deal Guys let’s just agree the cost of landing trouba right now would be steep and with us rebuilding we shouldn’t be trading say AA mcisaac and the 35th pick which could be another top prospect , let’s just stay the course be patient and see what happens in the next year either way I think we’re building a real good foundation for the future and we just need that solid #1d whether it be trouba, or a trade for a teams young top d prospect or this years draft as well as pherhaps drafting another good goalie prospect this year just in case things don’t work out with Larson and eliasson

Well just saying cause someone said we can move some of our 2nds , if they really wanted to deal him for picks or prospects just imagine what they’d get for him on trade deadline , easily would be #1 dman available ... I’m hoping not cause I’m hoping mike green will be healthy for once so yzerman would ship his ass out for a 1st or more 2nds i agree with you with the hefty price it would take and with where our team stands I’d just wait it out till July 2020 and see what happens rather than trading 3 really top pieces for one piece even though it’s a good one , I’m a greedy f*** and I’d rather take a chance and keep all 4 its amazing how nobody here is like patient and can’t wait a year and willing to give up all these assets .... remember what yzerman said ... patience patience patience

Maybe they’ll be comfortable playing out the year with him and him walking , it’s happened before ....and if they wanted to deal him at the deadline they can probably fetch a 1st+

I think Tampa will want to save every penny as possible , can be wrong ... might be wrong and he would accept a trade to Detroit and I’d have no problem with that as I think as a lottery pick would be the absolute best thing even though it would suck to go through another brutal season of tv viewing

Well he’s got a ntc from what I recall so he does have control, i don’t think Tampa wants to waste any cap space next two seasons with point and vasilevsky needing new deals and these Karlsson rumours , don’t know if he’d waive his ntc for Detroit to be his end game , that point he’d take the buyout and sign somewhere else for 1-2 per Personally I can see Florida being a team Callahan would accept a move to since he’s already in Florida and I can’t think off the top of my head but I don’t recall many veteran leadership guys on the panthers so it could be a fit we’ll see what happens , no problem if he’s a redwing all season though it’ll give us more of a chance to get a top pick

I know most fans weren’t thrilled we drafted bertuzzi so soon but I’m surprised most would of included in him in a deal few yrs ago , I mean he didn’t score close to 20 but I think even before this past season he gives us a different dimension we lacked, that kid will be a playoff warrior once we start getting in again oh I agree with you it’s too early to trade Rasmussen , it would look bad and make us look like we made a mistake but I’m just saying I don’t think yzerman would care too much as he doesn’t have a connection to these prospects but I’m just hoping trouba holds out, maybe I’m being naive but if it was me Trying to get back to my hometown team who’s rebuilding I’d tell them to wait it out a year and keep assets and keep rebuilding that being said though if I was trouba and July 1 2020 came and I felt my home team was disrespecting me and being cheap with the contracts thinking they can get a steal I would be pissed and bail so can’t ever take it as 100% guarantee he’ll come but I say it’s very close callahan is realistic but only if we can flip him right away cause I can’t see him wanting to be a redwing , as for trouba jets can’t force him to sign longterm at this stage he can play hardball till he gets his one year contract offer , I can totally see trouba missing training camp and such, can’t see him being pushed around into signing 2-3-4 year deal

I don’t know if anyone would give up a 1st,2nd and 3rd unless he’s signed up but he’s these kuffner type stuff is ridiculous i don’t think we should be moving those guys at this stage of the rebuild, I mean I can see Rasmussen being a chip cause personally I’m not high on him and from what I’ve seen not many wings fans are + yzerman wouldn’t feel too attached to the guy since he’s new but I think dealing cholowski would be dumb at the stage we’re in , we land him next year we can have trouba hronek cholowski mcisaac for possibly next decade i can understand people wanting to move in on trouba but I’d personally be hoping yzerman is calling his agent with a burner phone and telling him if trouba can toughen it out at this point one more season it would help the team he wants to join in the longterm immensely ... we’ll see what happens this summer , can’t imagine trouba going to training camp and then being moved and for trouba signing multiple seasons, I’m pretty sure at this stage he can get his one year deal if he wants, we’ll see

Read the article didn’t say anything about Steve calling , just mentioned probable trade scenarios and how we have multiple picks and jets are lacking them I still think they’d do something that helps them win in the now if they move him and I’m still holding out for us getting him in 2020 as a ufa , 2019-2020 are going to be deep drafts and since we’re rebuildng and he’s so close to walking I’ll wait it out and see what happens, if this was trouba at 22 it would have been a different thing

Ya I don’t think that jets trade is realistic at all , don’t think they’d have any interest in kuffner or saarijarvi , they want players that’ll help them compete now , only way we get marleau is if he somehow agrees to be dealt here so we can eat some salary and move him elsewhere at his age he won’t wanna waive his ntc to end up in Detroit

If we can get in the top 10, let’s say #8 with Edmonton since they wanna win now by say trading AA , would you do it? And if so for who? say if we got 2 of zegras/cozens/podkolzin/broberg/caufield/boldy in the top 8 would that be something to move AA now for or we stick with the course and keep team as is and keep building and hopefully land some gems with the next four picks after #6

https://t.co/gsNZL6b9JG?amp=1 thought all those rumours had ended and he was going back to his own home town? anyone have access to the full article?

God I’d be picking up Callahan and eating his salary and trading him right away if it were possible (I don’t think right now he’d waive to come here but who’s to sa we can’t facilitate a trade and pick up 2-3 draft picks in the process ) same with marleau or someone else , what’s the point of having all this cap space , it’s good for the owners but for the team if we can add 2,3,4,5 picks , whatever for guys who won’t even play for the wings,or barely play for one season it shouldn’t even be something to think about

Gotta keep the faith in veleno man , been cautious with him but I’m hoping he proves me wrong and becomes a 2c , i haven’t seen too many ppl on the podkolzin wagon but in my head I’m thinking in 3 yrs .... bertuzzi larkin mantha zadina veleno podkolzin thats gotta be one of the best top 6 in the league in 5 years right ? Haha , as for AA I do think it’s a matter of time before he’s moved there just won’t be enough spots if these kids all start developing and god knows who else we get right? I’m high on beecher personally so if we somehow got him with our second pick we’d have Larkin veleno beecher for the future you would think 100% AA gets moved for a dman so I’m hoping he goes for another 25-35 goal season cause if we decide to trade him he would fetch us a high return just imagine on trade deadline day to a cup contending team?a kid who will be an rfa with big numbers can probably fetch us a top d prospect and a 1st? Then it also helps us be less better and land a lafraniere or Raymond , a top 5 pick in 2020 i just think sooner or later of it all progresses right we might have to move people like AA and svechnikov(still think he can be a 20- 25 goal guy time will tell) AA + svechnikov for bean and a 1st would be aces

Your right but I just think we have a ton of forwards coming up already That I mentioned , who knows what happens with that Slovak kid I seen some of you guys mention we got, plus this years 6th and who knows who else we draft later , I’d rather get the pick and try and land a top forward or d guess that’s just the gambler in me haha , I just wanna keep stockpiling picks man and get more cracks , trade for Callahan get some picks, eat salary and get more picks , trade Daley for a pick , just keep at it ... 2019 and 2020 drafts are going to be essential in the wings rebuild and ya I’d love byram but can’t see it happening , right now for me it’s podkolzin (not scared of his drop) turcotte and zegras , we land one of those 3 I’ll be happy , try and land some d’s in the second and later picks

I’m just not super high on raddysh rather get like a John beecher or fagemo this draft through a Tampa pick if possible , just my opinion wtf do I know for me the goal is to win the cup , not interested in just making the playoffs so if we can keep our assets and land trouba in 2020 without giving anything up AND furthering our chances of getting a top 5 kid at the draft I’d rather do that (again we don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors but if trouba was interested yzerman would know , maybe I’m being naive but if I was trouba and wanted to come back to my hometown at this point with one year to go I’d tell them to just wait and keep getting better till I arrive ) I do realize yzerman can’t talk contract figures there’s no point but I’m sure he’s talked to his agent already and he’s aware or not if trouba wants to be a redwing whether it be now or next summer , there’s always talks going on behind closed doors with agents and other teams even though they “aren’t allowed” No I know you didn’t say that but I’m just saying cause a lot of posts I’ve seen around everyone’s panicking he’ll get dealt and sign elsewhere, who’s to say he will? My thought is let him be traded and wait a year k I just wanna keep doing what we’re doing and head in the right direction i mean if this was 21 yr old trouba different story but at this stage with one year to go I’d rather just wait it out and not pay a heavy price. Ummmm well I don’t know what the cost would be but assuming the jets trade trouba they’d need d help right?if I’m them I’m asking for hronek and If im yzerman I’m hanging up, maybe after that they’d ask for dekeyser cause he’s locked up or maybe that’s my wishful thinking but ask for bonus picks and good prospect(s) .... if they decide to go with a forward AA or mantha ?dont think at this stage they’d be interested in Rasmussen maybe, or maybe they just say f*** it and try and win the cup next season?could be a possibility, green is older like you mentioned but also a ufa in a year so I don’t think they’d have much interest plus he’s had a history of injuries last few years , really think they’d ask for hronek first

Yes we get closer to competing but I don’t think we’d be a playoff team , east is way far superior to the west and yes I realize yzerman can’t tell trouba to hold off a year and not sign anywhere else (tampering happens whether it’s discussed or not) but he also can’t make trouba sign with us if he’s dealt here, he’s going to sign where he wants to go at this point. He’s been waiting to be a ufa to leave the jets for years and at this stage I suspect he will test the marker or go to his #1 pick which I believe is Detroit i don’t believe if he’s traded to a team it makes automatic that he’s so relieved he’s not in Winnipeg anymore that he’ll just sign up, I’m all for trouba but I’m sticking with the wait till July 1 2020 plan, If he doesn’t end up coming so be it winnipeg as well are in win now mode , they don’t wanna add picks and kids so I don’t think we have anything to offer them really that allows them to keep competing for the cup unless we deal a mantha type player and I wouldn’t do that , if they took dekeyser Locked up for trouba I’d do it but I don’t think they would. It’s all good you want him but I’d prefer to keep building assets and the team and chancing it and waiting a year at this point to get a player who’s been rumoured for many years as wanting to be a redwing

God I’ve been seeing way too many trade for trouba posts lately lol . I wouldn’t do it , the way I see it is were a rebuilding team and we shouldn’t be trading all these assets to get a guy who will likely keep us as a non playoff team anyways when we have a Great chance landing him for free in a year I know a lot of people are scared if he gets dealt he’s gonna sign a contract with the new team but you can’t force someone to sign , if he really wants to be a redwing I’m sure yzerman knows, possibly told him to hold off one more year so we’d be better off longterm to compete for a cup. not the biggest fan of Rasmussen but he is a top 10 pick so I’m hoping I’ll be proven wrong and he can be a Ppl specialist and at least be a 20-25 goal guy , maybe with the sharks pick we can land a decent player like thrun/alnefelt/knyazev etc.. and mike green can fetch us possibly a 2020 first or 2 2nds at the deadline , I just think it’s better to wait a year and see where the chips fall True , but way I see it is were not in a hurry we’re rebuilding so I’d be ok waiting , also adding more 2nds possibly allow us to move 2 2nds if we keep stockpiling them and moving into the 1st round again in 2020, we have a bunch of kids coming so I think we can afford to pass on raddysh, I don’t think Tampa can though with the cap situation there going to need to cheap players coming in that can produce as well for them and he looks like an option im just hoping we get something from Tampa for Callahan , eat salary and get more assets back for him again, seems like a no brainer for us

Not sure how I feel about raddysh, I’d be ok with it but I think I’d rather get a 2nd in 2020 with what is suppose to be the best draft in ages , hopefully Gus resigns in sj and if we can’t land a 1st for green at the deadline you’d have to think we’d get at least a 2nd which would potentially give us 5 2nd rounders .... lots of if’s I know Hahaha no I use eliteprospects and hockeydb, I just found the playoff option now for eliteprospects though ... it’s website flashscore , use it for when I bet on different sports and stuff and you can check like every hockey game playing basically in every league , you click on gallant and that’s what it showed , my bad but seeing gallant playing pretty well with men in his first attempt basically and helping them to the finals is a good start. Dont think he’d ever be a significant piece in Detroit but I’m thinking he could have an outside shot as a 4th liner some day , who knows

What’s about 2020 2nd? Don’t think he’ll play for the wings next year was just asking if he’d be in the wings plans to keep as a prospect or move on

Ummm well we’d be taking on Callahan’s maybe half salary if we ship him out right away to move up 25 spots?id rather it be higher gap than that if we do that or just collect picks alone without giving picks back if possible , like i think I’d be just as ok as taking a 2020 second and keeping 54 cause we might be able to land a good player with that pick aNd get another crack next had as for marleau I was thinking same thing as in eat salary and ship him off right away , I know he’d have no intentions of coming here and I wouldn’t want him here either way same with Callahan I’d just trade them for picks, eat salary and trade for more picks again if possible but I doubt marleau agrees to leave Toronto , he wants to win the cup at this stage and if the leafs can fix that d they have as good a shot as anyone Pretty sure is just some crackhead in the basement writing bs up https://t.co/sX9c6Oaa0n?amp=1

Oh I think adding Foote is a zero possibility , be nice but I’m sure they wanna keep him for the future , if they can live with trading the 27th and moving back I’d do it but I do agree I think they’ll wait and see what happens on the day , I’d personally have no problem taking 2020 2nd and waiting a year ya I think lucic’s Enforcer days are over , don’t recall him fighting much, don’t even think he has the appetite for it anymore and I do think abdelkader has a no trade clause for like another 1-2 years? No clue how that even happens, I think at this point best option with abdelkader is playing him two more years and then buying him out or eating half his salary and moving him, 8 year buyout is too long would love to add Marleau and well and deal him right away with salary for more picks but I’m sure he’s gonna screw Toronto and not waive his no trade clause , don’t know if there’s anyone else out there with with 1 year , maybe 2 max we can get to land us more picks

Just noticed Toledo is winning game 7 and zach gallant scored and has 5 goals and 11 pts in 10 games in the playoffs , I had all but written him off for getting a contract offer but just wondering if anyone thinks his recent run with Toledo will make yzerman sign the kid or we just cut ties?