nyqvististhefuture

100% agree , I was hoping for bode wilde as well ... oh well is right lol what can we do hey ? I wanted lauko real bad and bruins signed him right away ... few years ago I wanted Lucas carlsson for a dman and hawks got him and he’s got 19 pts in the ahl as a rookie , branstromm over Rasmussen and he’s doing amazing and going to ahl all star as a rookie I believe just hope we go for it and not go for the “safe, he’s a sure nhl player type picks “ ... that’s what the 2017 draft looks like and outside petruzzelli those 3rds look like a waste , really hoping the 2018 draft is a turning point in the rebuild , even our last pick I was skeptical being 5’8 but he seems to be doing amazing and seeing how great Atkinson is doing there’s some reason to be optimistic

Just cause I can see him scoring 30?theres players who can score and do not much else and that’s nylander ... Larkin’s a great two way guy who can kill penalties and is a leader and future c they’re not even the same league

100% agree it’s all a crapshoot when it comes to goalies so wouldn’t bother with a move unless the goalie is ready for prime time , sucks I wanted dostal last draft and he’s doing really good but I’m hoping one of the 2 Swedes can take over and be our future #1 ... even the Swiss goalie is doing really good but in a lesser league but still only 21 , petruzzelli would be on 4th of my personal list but I hope he becomes a star if we can land another 2nd or 3rd maybe we can take a swing at another top goalie prospect and hope for the best and hopefully we really concentrate on some d’s next draft with top pairing off side and go for homerun type picks and continue off the really good 2018 draft we had

Teams will just say he missed training camp ,his legs aren’t up to par yet and it’ll take him time to get back into the flow i do think if he gets ppl time elsewhere and ice time he can get 30 goals per year but I don’t think he’s a bonafide star that’ll lead a team to the top but as mentioned teams desperate for offence like oilers,Carolina, maybe Arizona etc... will take him , don’t know what the leafs could get back in return ... would kinda suck to see puljujarvi ending up in Toronto and breaking out though

Don’t forget the genius trade for a guy with a history of neck injuries in Eric cole , and those moves were sadly just to keep an unimportant streak alive where as Toronto has a legit shot at the cup if they fix some gaps and I didn’t just suggest glendening or any single one player would get it done , I’d trade all 3 who have term left if possible , maybe throw in a hicketts whatever ... will it get done? Probably not but like you mentioned there’s been a lot of stupid deals made and we made some of them so It wouldn’t surprise me if liljgren was traded for someone who’s not say puljujarvi or young player with upside ... they want some nhl experienced vets right now anyways trade deadline is soon enough so we’ll see who gets deal or not pretty quick Cole trade as well , don’t care janmark is struggling this year but the whole team is and we lost a second I believe that had guys like Jordan greenway available at our turn I think ...on well least we kept our streak alive

Now your just exaggerating ... first off the deal would make a hell of a lot more sense for the leafs since they’re a cup contender and have a window to go for it with all the big contracts coming up to Matthews and marner soon ... what the hell purpose would the wings have in trading veleno for a plumber? I also mentioned 3 guys in the scenario with term left where fehr has one year left but I get what your trying to say but again we’re in rebuild mode and the leafs are going for the cup Always only takes one team and I do believe they’d find a taker ... I do think he’s just a complimentary piece though and not someone you want to be the go to guy on your team , there’s always a sucker though ... Edmonton?carolina? Someone will take him

He’s the one guy from that draft I’m holding out hope for .... for the love of god help us find lidstrom 2.0

Then trade Nyquist for a teams 4th top prospect let’s say? And we can land a pretty good guy with a second rounder, guys always drop ... I’m up for trading Gus cause we have a ton of kids who can play top 6 roles and some more coming nex year or year after in veleno and zadina ... hopefully berggren and svechnikov pan out ... possibly another forward with our first rounder this year got AA mantha Larkin And bertuzzi up already and not wanting to take a risk and giving Gus big money in a contract year and then we all ***** about it 3-2 yrs ... we need to concentrate on improving our future d core as for Howard if he loves it here so much he can do like plekanec and leave and return and give us a valuable pick ... and if he ends up leaving and our goaltending is in shambles for a season I wouldn’t be so broken hearted since we can possibly land lafraniere at the 2020 draft and hopefully turn this team around for the 2020-2021 season

Puts up a dozen pts a season ,ufa to be isn’t a playoff veteran with tons of experience , would be a 6-7 dman and mostly likely an assurance Incase of injuries I’d be highly surprised if we landed even a 3rd but I hope I’m wrong I’d trade him regardless unless we can move Ericsson and Daley which won’t happen sadly ... hronek and cholowski will get increased time next year and we have guys like hicketts who deserve a good look and even Sulak I’d bring him up prior to the season ending

Aren’t you a clever little child https://editorinleaf.com/2019/01/14/toronto-maple-leafs-timothy-liljegren-5/ saw it mentioned on tsn as well ... I’m not sitting down thinking of rumors , got me confused with Eklund krsmith I don’t know what they’d trade him for I’m saying he’s available with the emergence of sandin ... so they say, if he’s available and they’re stupid enough to trade him then we should see what the cost would be ... if they want a relevant piece at the deadline he might be the guy who likely gets moved unless they wait in the off season and move nylander

Expendable in the sense that sandin and dermott are waiting in the wings to come up and get more ice time in dermott’s case , but don’t think that’ll just mean they’d give him liljgren away but I do think he can be had

I think we’d be lucky to land a 4th for Jensen , he’s a 6-7 dman and if a team acquires him it’ll be for depth for a playoff run so can’t imagine a team sending a 2nd or a 3rd for a guy who will barely play I do agree with an earlier post on kronwall , I do think due to his playoff experience and being a cup winner even though he’s older his name alone can fetch us a 2nd .... can’t imagine Babcock wouldn’t pull at Dubas to send us a 2nd for kronwall if he were made available but I sadly don’t think he’s willing to leave Detroit at this stage of his career

So dregger and McKenzie just said on the insider teams are calling the wings about kronwall ... guessing the leafs for sure , sadly I doubt he’d do us a solid and waive his no trade clause but just curious what his return could be, he’s older now but you know he’d step up and be a bigger presence in the playoffs on a cup contending team depending his role have to think at least a 2nd

If it’s for the greater good and it’s the expandable part I’m all for it ... someone pour some water outside Ericsson’s door

I’d say ok talk like Kh’s work later

Hey if your content with a general manager picking up 3rd picks that’ll likely result in nothing than by all means he’s a brilliant gm Great talk He sucky sucky longtime

Your making it sound like the Tatar move was all holland’s Brilliance , it was luck pure and simple which worked in our favor so I won’t complain but it is what it is IMO its all nice and dandy that we landed 3rds for jurco etc... but what about everything he’s done since the cap era? Abdelkader,helm,Ericsson,dekeyser,Nielsen,helm ... all horrible deals , the no trade clauses he gives away like candy thus preventing us from moving anybody, keeping around a dickhead coach who keeps pushing guys like hronek down and out of the lineup in favor of washed up vets hes done a lot worse moves than better ones since the cap introduction , he’s lucky we had a great 2018 draft cause the 2017 one is turning out to be a waste

I’ll give him credit for smith but not tatar it was Vegas’s first year playing beyond expectations and they wanted to make a splash and a deal fell through and made a deal with Holland with no time left , I’ll call that one luck .... but let’s not forget all the horrendous moves he’s made prior so ya the same guy Can’t disagree with that , if anything gives up an extra asset and makes someone expendable later to fix other problem areas ..... ummm wonder if we can convince chiarelli the quickest way to turn the oilers around would be to trade mcdavid lmao I’d do it for liljgren then if possible he’s apparenyl expendable now with sandin in the mix and dermott ... marleau has one year left and he’s been atrocious and I’m sure they’d deal him if they could , his cap hit is 6 mill which pays off for Daley and helm basically

I’m with krsmith I’m hoping for a first for Nyquist with the season he’s having he’s at the top of the players available outside duchene with the most pts , having a great year and I think going under the radar .... if he played with a mcdavid or Crosby with the way he’s playing and his 2 way game I think he can really help , but hey I’m probably biased but I’m very hopeful for at least a 25-30 pick as for the leafs maybe I’m being optimistic but from everything I’ve seen they are desperate for guys who can help them in the playoffs since their record vs the top teams are atrocious and we all know Babcock weak at the knees for glendening and he fits the bill , same with helm maybe helm and glendening for liljgren is more realistic but I do think there’s a trade to be made with the leafs but as krsmith said we’ll likely end up with mid picks for Jensen,Daley and Nyquist a 1st-2nd pick

Sadly I do agree with you that getting some of these young kids are just a pipe dream and to be honest as much as I’d love a shot at puljujarvi the forward position going forward is the least of our concerns , need to make a move for d prospects but yes it be miracle to get anything of significant at the deadline with Holland as gm

Love mantha and supported him as a wing for a long time , still like him but he’s gonna be 25 when next season starts and we’re still waiting for that big 30-30 type year consistently and with the likes of zadina,veleno coming soon , hopefully Berggren and possibly a top 5 pick this year ... maybe a surprise guy like Pearson who’s gone unnoticed I think mantha becomes available depending the deal (top d prospect would be a better return deal than a forward ) Think a similar type deal can be done , they so desperate for forecheckers and guys who aren’t easy to play against and those guys fit the bill ....don’t know about Daley but I’m sure him being a cup winner is a bonus to these contending teams

i just can’t believe this kid from that tournament I remember has become s*** , I think he does need to get the hell out of Edmonton and fast I’d love fabbro but I think to land him it would be like a Nyquist we just don’t have too many assets and I think there’s a zero percent chance Avs are trading makar I’m listening/watching leafs radio and they are saying they need shut down dmen and forecheckers and willing to give up good price cause they think they can win , it’s too bad on our end kronwall isn’t willing to take one for the team cause I’m sure they’d jump at him in a heartbeat glendening 100%, Daley if he doesn’t go to Edmonton ... think if helm would waive his clause Toronto grabs him in a second but maybe if we get creative and throw them a package like helm,glendening,Daley and take back like Marleau we can land a first and liljgren do love the thought of puljujarvi with the wings zadina Larkin bertuzzi Mantha AA puljujarvi thats a nice top 6 and I can see him turning it around with some young guys with speed and skill , sadly that would mean Rasmussen who I was never really high on and wished we grabbed branstromm ends up a 3rd liner .... maybe we convince Carolina to reunite the brothers and send Rasmussen and svechnikov for bean and drury ... ahhh must be fun being a gm lol think bean wouldn’t have to be protected as I think it’s his first ahl season so we’d be able to keep cholowski hronek liljgren bean after that Seattle draft , anyways Carolina’s a dream but I do think there’s deals to be made with Edmonton and Toronto who’s coach knows our guys , Holland just has to strike first and not wait for other teams to move I’d have to think about that one man only cause we got a ton of forwards coming but maybe mantha would best served in a deal involving a top dman with real upside but it could end up being mantha for puljujarvi and broberg which is something to think about

Puljujarvi ... conditional 2nd 2019 pick (if they make the playoffs it becomes a 2019 1st) and take spooner,reider off their hands For Nyquist,Howard,jensen,hicketts Or svechnikov Won’t happy but hey it’s chiarelli so ... lol and apparently there so desperate to make the playoffs for ticket renewals and other stuff that I’m so sure they’ll make another mistake ,think with this trade they would get in especially since they have mcdavid and I do think Gus would be a perfect fit with mcdavid and the fact he’s a responsible two way guy would be a big asset, don’t this know if this would be enough, taking back two contracts they wanna get rid of with one year left each Reider (had previous seasons of 13,14,16,12 goal seasons ) To a cup contending team for a 3rd rounder spooner and a 5th 2019 to Ottawa for zack smith (been desperate to get rid of him and has two years left , spooner has one year left and maybe they hope he can rebound back to a 30-40ish or guy) and a 2020 2nd rounder eat up 1.2 of smiths salary and trade him to Edmonton for zach kassian who has one year left and a 3rd while were here at it ... glendening and Daley to Toronto for liljgren lol like I said just messing about while watching the raptors game ... but back to your original post ya I’d make the deal but I don’t think they’d trade a third pick overall kid who’s still 20 for Nyquist alone ,especially if he walks in June it’ll be real bad .... but hey it is chiarelli

hoping gogolev plays well ,would be a free asset and could have upside , think hes a newly 18yr old as well https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/sports-story/8694929-spurned-peterborough-petes-forward-pavel-gogolev-to-attend-detroit-red-wings-development-camp/

kovalchuk with one year high cap would have got us w great return ... vanek would get us a bag of peanut m and m's