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Ya I'm not for the Russian player either , we need defense #1 ... I'm still more for trading back and getting the most picks as possible for the first 2 rounds , highly doubt we will get in the top 10 As for forwards if we get 3-4 picks I'd want to take a chance on koivula , he's still 17 and huge and the Finns have been dominating a lot of comps as well , henrik borgstrom also gets my attention and is ranked higher

Cute ? What leverage does he have ? He's been gone for years and let's be honest he's probably coming back to the NHL cause the russian ruble is worthless now he knows he won't find a team to give more than a 2 year deal max ... Your gonna tell me someone's gonna give him 5 mill x 5? Won't happen He doesn't have much leverage

Radulov can be had for one year 3-5 mill .... Stamkos would cost 10+ cap hit for 7 years That's why you see people choosing radulov ... Stamkos agrees to come here for one year 3-5 per different story , we both know that would never happen

Can't believe we let that game go ... We had that game 7 in our hands and blew it

And getting stamkos will give us headaches down the road Stamkos gets 10 per and gets 75 pts ... Then 50-60 pt guys are gonna be demanding 7 per Plus stamkos has blood clot issues which can be a problem down the road so I wouldn't even think of bringing him here , if we're signing someone to 10 per it better for a number 1 defensemen

If anyone finds somewhere to watch the game can you please pm me

Is bertuzzi making himself a must for the wings to protect for expansion draft? He's a legit playoff performer ... Ahl isn't the NHL but we can already tell he's gonna be someone who raise his game when the post season comes around , and I gotta think the expansion team(s) will pick up some kids with potential and is gotta think bertuzzi would be claimed

Which is why the ducks will keep lindholm .. Almost sure vatanen will be the one traded

Russo won't be eligible , next season with Grand Rapids will be his 2nd year pro so he's safe if expansion comes in 2017-2018 And I don't think every team will be looking to move pieces now , surely teams will get a jump start but they still can play next season with the players and trade some body's before the expansion draft , heard on the radio today about how the pens were gonna trade fleury because of Matt Murray and they were saying its bs cause they are in no hurry cause they still have next season which is true Technically if we wanted to we can keep both Tatar and nyquist next season and see what happens and trade one after next season Likely scenario is one will be packaged for help on defense since that's our biggest concern

Gonna be some good names out there available im almost certain were gonna have expansion announced after the finals ... So who do we protect? so we leave zetterberg unprotected thinking an expansion team won't take him due to his age?id guess not cause he's the captain and an expansion team might take him for his leadership and since his actual salary will be less than the cap hit Since Larkin would be exempt .... Zetterberg athanasiou mantha sheahan abdelkader bertuzzi and one of Tatar/nyquist assuming one gets dealt? Put in bertuzzi since he'd be available to be claimed and I gotta think some top prospects playing in the ahl will be claimed off teams (total bs) and I like bertuzzi's game and think he Can be valuable for the playoffs As for defense ... Kronwall dekeyser and one of the kids marchenko/ouellet/sproul but they'll likely be replaced by someone we hopefully pick up by trade .... Robbie Russo is safe from being claimed right?

Believe everything was due to money and it'll be worked out ... The reasons you'd want holland to jump on him are the same reasons the jets would want to keep him , hes a very good young defensemen with loads of potential and as we all can see after this season , those are very hard players to come by and you don't just let them go We'll see what happens Your right, you didn't ... My bad Your right teams will move assets which will make draft day more exciting this year if expansion is coming , I just believe the jets would rather trade Myers or convince enstrom to be traded before trouba

Nope it doesn't http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/move-to-jets-has-helped-tyler-myers-rejuvenate-a-career-that-was-stagnating-in-buffalo/ At the bottom it says ... No trade clause kicks into the 2016-2017 season So they have time to deal him , and he has a no trade clause so the jets wouldn't be forced to protect him over trouba No he doesn't , read the link above What does Tatar or goose have to do with anything ? I'm sorry man just because we might want to get rid of Tatar/Gus doesn't mean the jets would want them Laine wheeler scheifele Conner ehlers little ... Top 6 right there and I'm sure they have other forwards but it escapes me now and a ton of kids/prospects coming .... They don't need help upfront Trust me when I say I'd love to land trouba, just don't see it happening I'd be more then happy to come here and say I was wrong though

There's a lot of players who request to get dealt and never get dealt ... We just saw it happen to drouin I think the big thing with trouba was he wanted big $ and jets weren't willing to give him 7-8 per, which th shouldn't ... Again we seen a lot of kids trying to avoid the bridge deal and get the big coin that never get what they were after We all want trouba here because we know how good he will be, that being said the jets are very much aware of this as well and will do everything to convince him to stay and with Kyle Conner coming and laine as well as a bunch of other promising forwards coming and already there Winnipeg is looking like a place to stick around with trouba himself and byfuglien being the best dmen on the team You just said it were gonna keep mrazek and Howard if we have to, cause there's no way we're mrazek ... Why wouldn't the same apply to the jets? They can ask Myers/enstrom to allow them to seek a trade and if they say no they stay with all the pieces I'm assuming your talking about expansion? It's been said only players with no movement clauses will be protected and Myers doesn't fit that bill and there's no way the jets value Myers more than trouba ... No way Yes if trouba is on the block holland had to look at it .... If it happens I don't think we might have the pieces as I don't think they'd be interested in a nyquist or forwards , and again I don't think they'll trade him Sorry if that frustrates you but that's my take on it , he's too valuable an asset to move especially considering there on the verge of being a yearly playoff team very soon

Just because trouba might be easier to move doesn't mean you move him , we've seen plenty of players get traded with no trade/no movement clauses ... We're trying to trade one now in Howard You said it trouba has more value than the others if they traded him ... That's because he's far better which makes it very unlikely they would trade him This is hardly a difficult decision for the jets gm .... Would I love to add trouba? Course and I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong Trouba wants to go back to Michigan? So what ... How many players would love to go back home but don't? Trouba wants to come to Detroit it'll likely have to be as a Ufa And yes I would be very very shocked if trouba gets dealt as the jets are a young up and coming team and he's gonna be one of the core pieces in the back end for the future If the jets want the 16th pick so badly they can offer the 21st and I believe 36th pick without giving trouba up and holland would take that in a heartbeat

Who are these too many dmen ? Let me ask you a simple question ... Who would you rather have ? Trouba or Myers? Trouba or enstrom? Trouba or mark Stuart? I think the answer would easily be trouba so why wouldn't they trade either of those before even considering trading trouba unless they got a dman of equal value? Trouba is younger than them with much higher upside Only dman who's better on Winnipeg who they might not trade before trouba is byfuglien but he's also in his 30s now All this trouba trade talk from Winnipeg side was because he apparently was asking for a ton of money but he's still young and no rights so he won't be going anywhere Trouba is better than any d prospect a team might trade him ... Prospects still haven't played in the NHL and have question marks with them and besides morissey jets don't have much really coming in the back end They are golden upfront and wouldn't want a nyquist or anything we have to offer .... Unless we're willing to part wing dekeyser and + we have no chance

Well that sucks Basically see a zero % chance of getting trouba now as they won't let him go without getting another dman and we sure as hell ain't trading dekeyser

Yup as you know I wasn't a big fan of both those trades and wouldn't want to see us giving up say holmstrom for another mid 30s ufa to be I don't think we'll be sellers either but God knows what will happen right?gotta think one day our streak will end , hopefully in another 25 years but if it happens to be next season and say we're 10-15 pts away radulov becomes a valuable asset on trade deadline day

Guess it was vs Tampa he disappeared , but to be fair so did most of they're guys I do think he'd be more valuable with a Tavares type player which we don't have right now ... And you could be right about him not getting 7 per but I think he gets at least 6-6.5 per There is always a team that over pays to get players and I can see someone like Columbus maybe giving him that type of money since they can't attract guys to go there Another thing I know you won't agree with but I'd sign radulov , more I think about it more I like it .... He won't cost us anything and I believe he can produce AND God forbid we don't get in the playoffs and it looks like we won't by trade deadline and radulov is producing he becomes a valuable trade asset on trade deadline day and can fetch us top picks and maybe a prospect which we need I understand the need to pass due to his past but I believe he deserves another shot and why not us? He's older now and has a family which is surely to have changed him in some ways 1 year deal wouldn't be a big price to pay and can fetch us a good return if we sadly don't get in the post season

Ya I think the best thing is to give mantha athanasiou Larkin tons of ice time and let them develop and hopefully turn out to be really good players which we all believe they can be I'd stay away from stamkos cause he will cost 10+ per and has blood clot issues and if he truly is demanding that he has to be a center I say pass Okposo as well I'd pass on , would cost 7 I believe and I think he needs a star forward like he had in Tavares to make him a better player , and didn't he dissapear in the playoffs? I'd just want to be sure we give the right player(s) a 7+ cap hit Think our best route is to let the kids play and to make some trades for defensemen and maybe prospects with potential and hopefully find a kid who didn't have a chance somewhere else and play well for the wings, I don't think this is the best ufa class and we should save our money for someone else at another time I'd love a backes but I see him returning to the blues and I'd love lucic just so we can have someone who can strike fear into other teams players but I'm not willing to give him a 6x6 type deal ... Maybe 5 million x4 since we have some kids with cheap salaries now but I know lucic will get more on the market Don't know about you guys but I'm anxiously awaiting draft day since I believe they'll be a ton of trades and names we wouldn't suspect to be traded to be in fact moved

Thx for that ... I'd still take a shot on him and demote him for picks since he just has one year left ... Obviously only if we get rid of Howard and other contracts and have cap space doing nothing We need to get some draft picks and or sign/trade for some prospects and replenish our prospect pool

Didn't watch the game but didn't we lose 2-1? Wouldn't say McCollum was a disaster , in fact wasn't he not bad this year? He'll never be a starter but maybe he can be a Joey McDonald type back up for a few seasons some where? In any case Jared coreau is ahead of him and I'd gotta believe McCollum will move on ,Patterson will also be in Grand Rapids as well unless we trade one of them

just heard the islanders are looking for a winger to play with Tavares Nyquist? Gotta think he'd get 30+ with Tavares , my thought on this is then using hamonic in a return and shipping him to Winnipeg in a deal for trouba I find it very hard to think jets will trade trouba but maybe landing hamonic and a salary of about 4 million might do the trick And hamonic is from Manitoba and wants to return close to home .... Problem is Edmonton might go after him and depends on whether islanders would want eberle or Nyquist Maybe something like ... Islanders get - nyquist,marchenko Redwings get - trouba Jets get - hamonic,2017 first Probably more would have to be added, picks exchanged .. Anyways doubt trouba gets dealt but the,key would be landing hamonic off the islanders and shipping him to Winnipeg

Well if that's what he wanted then he was a f***en idiot and blinded by loyalty and friendship Wanted to play with the veterans ... Maybe helm to help fetch the puck but he should of had a nyquist/Tatar/jurco some kid full time who can skate and maybe finish off plays , helm is a great third liner but not a finisher, same as Richards Anyway as it's just my opinion, what do I know

Like I said your getting rid of all our players/prospects and picks and just keeping non important guys putting them in the lineup (guys who won't be nhlers ) Only prospect we'd have left is like bertuzzi who's a 3rd-4th line guy, same as turgeon And like I said jets are stacked upfront they would want nothing to do with adding more forwards from us for trouba Yes datsyuk is aging .... But his linemates are helm and Richards , it's f***en sad and pathetic he had to play with those 2 in his last season most of the time How do you expect datsyuk to rack up the points playing with those guys

So trade all our prospects/players and picks and call up tangredi and Callahan who won't have NHL careers ... Makes sense and as much as you and I would love together trouba jets won't want svechnikov and Tatar , have you seen they're top 6? The crazy prospects the have coming up ?theyd probably want defense more than anyone which we don't have