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I'm planning on buying a dog and I'm trying to come up with a name (Red Wings related) and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas / suggestions for me... Keep in mind, I'm not sure if it will be a male or female yet... So far I've come up with a few possibilities including: Zetty or Zäta (Zetterberg) - being one of my favorite players and the captain for the next 8+ years, it's kinda fitting. Pasha (Datsyuk) - another one of my favorite players, I really like this one as well. Howie (Howard) - I love Howard but not sure if I'm in love with the name. Helmer (Helm) - I love Helm but who knows what kind of career he is going to have when / if he fully recovers from all of these injuries. Abby (Abdelkader) - I kinda like the name, probably better suited for a female. Sammy (Samuelsson) - just as well call him / her sh!t face. Kronner (Kronwall) - not a bad name. Jurco - probably my favorite name, as well as one of my favorite prospects. I would just really have to hope that he becomes the player I think he will be.

Hey, I'm looking to buy a couple tickets for a game next month. I'm thinking about the San Jose game on the 11th but I'm not sure yet. Anyway, I'm just wondering if anyone has any tickets for sale or knows anyone or anywhere I can buy tickets at or around center ice in the lower bowl?... Possibly in the 107, 108, 121, 122 range... Is there a local classifieds website for the Michigan area where people can buy and sell tickets? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I was looking at Hockey's Future - Red Wings prospects and our "Prospect Talent" seems to be pretty accurate with Gustav Nyquist and Brendan Smith leading the charge, rated at 8/10, Petr Mrazek, Calle Jarnkrok, Teemu Pulkkinen, Tomas Jurco and Tomas Tatar behind them at 7.5/10. But then I looked at the "Probability Of Success" and I noticed something very obscure. Our prospects with the best chance to succeed are Brendan Smith and Rasmus Bodin... I'm not too familiar with this kid, other than we drafted him in the 6th round, 200th overall last year. He plays for Tranås AIF in Division 1 in Sweden, which is the number 2 league in Sweden under Elitserien. He's a big body at 6'6", 207lbs and is often compared to a grinding, Abdelkader type player. So why is this kid more likely to succeed than guys like Petr Mrazek, Ryan Sproul, Xavier Ouellet, Mattias Backman, Calle Jarnkrok, Teemu Pulkkinen, Tomas Jurco, Martin Frk, Gustav Nyquist, Tomas Tatar, etc, etc... Is it just because of his towering frame? Does this kid really have that much upside?... Also... 1. What prospect(s) are you most excited about? 2. What prospect(s) do you see as a dark horse? 3. What prospect(s) do you see as over rated I would say... 1. Calle Jarnkrok / Ryan Sproul 2. Andreas Athanasiou 3. Landon Ferraro

You want to trade our best defenseman? You can argue all you want and point at his atrocious -9 but he IS our best defenseman and he isn't going anywhere. He's always out against other teams top lines for a reason. He's also paired with a rookie right now and as solid as Lashoff looks out there he is prone to mistakes. He will get much better and I think he will provide the same level of comfort and stability that Stuart did while he was here. I would like to see something like this in about 3 years... Smith - Sproul Kronwall - Ericsson / Kindl Ouellet - Lashoff Backman

We desperately need to bolster our defence... here is my trade proposal... To Winnipeg: Ian White Kyle Quincey Jakub Kindl Jan Mursak Tomas Tatar 2013 1st round pick To Detroit: Zach Bogosian Mark Stuart 2013 3rd round pick Detroit Lineup Henrik Zetterberg - Pavel Datsyuk - Damien Brunner Johan Franzen - Valtteri Filppula - Mikael Samuelsson / Gustav Nyquist Todd Bertuzzi - Darren Helm - Patrick Eaves Dan Cleary / Drew Miller - Justin Abdelkader - Jordin Tootoo Cory Emmerton Niklas Kronwall - Jonathan Ericsson Brendan Smith - Zach Bogosian Mark Stuart - Kent Hunkins / Carlo Colaiacovo

I doubt Cheveldayoff is thinking that and yeah Quincey had a rough 2 games to start the season but he played really well lastnight against Dallas. He shook off the rust like most players and he made some good plays and did an outstanding job on the 2 on 1 to break up the pass and negate a sure goal. He's not as bad as most fans make him out to be.

Not a bad trade but I think Nyquist will be better than Kane in 3-5 years... and as much as I want Bogosian, Staurt is a huge reason I would be in on that trade... The guy is a hitting and shot blocking machine, which we desperately need... I think Bogosian is definitely worth our 1st round pick... Sorry, typo... As well as Huskins... not Hunkins... I think this trade is very even but I'd also throw in Joey MacDonald to back up Ondrej Pavelec... What else would we need to give up? Bogo isn't worth any more than White, Kindl and a first is he? Stuart isn't worth much more than Quincey, Mursak, Tatar and MacDonald is he?...

Our defense, as it stands right now looks something like this... Kronwall / Ericsson Quincey / White Smith / Kindl We obviously need to add a 7th defenseman, but who should it be?... There are still a lot of remaining UFA defensemen, however for the most part they lack skill, youth or durability. Some of the available options include Pavel Kubina, Michal Rozsival, Jaroslav Spacek, Milan Jurcina, Carlo Colaiacovo, Scott Hannan, Brett Clark, Matt Gilroy, Chris Campoli, Kurtis Foster, Cam Barker... Not an overly impressive list, although a couple are definitely worth a look at this point. If Ken Holland does throw an offer at one of these players chances are that player will play above and beyond expectations. For whatever reason when players pull that red and white jersey with the winged wheel over their head they play at the highest level imaginable. Signing one of the above UFA's is a viable option, however I think the trade route is the more likely way to go, if nothing else because of the abundance of forwards on our roster. Our forwards, once Abby is signed looks something like this... Filppula / Datsyuk / Franzen Nyquist / Zetterberg / Samuelsson Bertuzzi / Helm / Brunner Cleary / Abdelkader / Tootoo Miller / Eaves / Mursak / Emmerton We have 16 forwards with just two on a two-way contract being able to be sent down to Grand Rapids (Gustiv Nyquist and Damien Brunner) two of which are expected to make the big club out of training camp. We clearly need to shed a couple forwards, but who should it be?... My personal opinion on players that are expendable are... Franzen (streaky player that can be a real game changer, that would have the highest return value) Miller / Eaves (great role players that are valuable to every team, that would have a decent return value) Mursak / Emmerton (players that we don't necessarily need, that could fourish with a different team) There are a few defensemen that have been rumoured to be on the move. This list includes Keith Yandle, Jay Bouwmeester, PK Subban, Dan Boyle, Mark Streit... Rumors are just that, so chances are some, if not all of these players will remian with their current teams. Sure, some are worth a phone call but I just don't see any of these players playing in Detroit next season. The most likely would probably be JayBo but I think that is a long shot as well. None of this changes the fact that we need someone to fill out our blueline. So why not go after someone that will not require so much in return. One player in particular that I would love Kenny to go after would be Travis Hamonic. The kid is just 21 years old with two years under his belt over in Long Island. In those two years he has put up reasonable number on a weak Islanders team (135 Games Played, 7 Goals, 43 Assists for 50 Points) He's a big body at 6'2", 210 lbs. and he loves to use his big frame to his advantage (288 Hits and 275 Blocked Shots) and he's a right shot that we desperately need on our blueline. I would love to have this kid, but am I being a little naive thinking that we could get him for a package something like Cory Emmerton, Jan Mursak and a later round pick (anywhere from 5th - 7th)...? I think a pairing of Brendan Smith and Travis Hamonic would be absolutely lethal in a couple years...

Sign: Suter 13 years $90m ($6,923,077 cap hit) Semin 2 years $11.5m ($5,750,000 cap hit) Trade: To Phoenix - Ian White, Todd Bertuzzi, Drew Miller, Cory Emmerton To Detroit - Keith Yandle FORWARDS Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($5.750m) Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m) Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) DEFENSEMEN Ryan Suter ($6.923m) / Keith Yandle ($5.250m) Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,019,289; BONUSES: $462,500 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $180,711 2013 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS DETROIT RED WINGS!!! Go ahead, rip away... " "That trade is so lopsided", "That will never happen", etc, etc.....

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($5.250m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Brad Boyes ($3.500m) Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.250m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m) DEFENSEMEN Ryan Suter ($6.000m) / Ian White ($2.875m) Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Justin Schultz ($0.875m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Michael Leighton ($1.500m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,333,712; BONUSES: $37,500 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $7,966,288 Critique Away.....

I just don't see us getting Parise, I think he's staying in Jersey (even with their finacial situation)... It's not about who is better Helm or Abdelkader (Helm is obviosly better), it's who fits best on which line. Abdelkader would fit better on the 3rd line with two other big bodies and Helm would be better suited on the 4th line with the energy guys with both lines seeing around the same amount of ice time, Babcock loves his energy guys...As for Flippula over Franzen, I would pick Fil over the Mule any day of the week but once again it's about who fits better on which line. Fil and Pav feeding Semin the puck, and Hank and Nyquist feeding the Mule... And yes I have a hell of a lot of money left over but I wouldn't spend to the cap if I were Kenny, because the cap is going to drop right back down after this season, so why would you want to be in the same situation the Hawks were in two years ago right after winning the cup, having no choice but to ship off players in all directions... Brad Boyes is a good player, just had an incredibly terrible year, like most of the Sabres. With a change of scenery and playing a smaller role he can return to his 60-70 points per year... Hudler is never the better option, we have our top 6 set and he doesn't fit into the bottom 6. The guy is terrible... slow, soft, and easily intimidated... If I thought we could get either Iginla or Doan I would pick either of them over Boyes. Whether you think it is or not, I believe this is a real possibility for the upcoming season. Semin is in for a huge paycut if he wants a chance to win unless he's prepared to head back to Russia to play in the KHL, which he very well may do... Boyes = Gomez.... where that logic comes from, I have no idea... Boyes could be a good fit on our 3rd line.

My trade proposal: TO ANAHEIM - Brad Stuart (signing rights), Jiri Hudler (signing rights), Johan Franzen, Jakub Kindl, 2012 4th Round Draft Pick TO DETROIT - Bobby Ryan, Sheldon Brookbank, Justin Schultz

To WSH: Jiri Hudler Tomas Tatar Fabian Brunnstrom 2012 2nd To DET: Alexander Semin 2012 5th To TOR: Cory Emmerton Joakim Andersson Jakub Kindl 2012 3rd To DET: Nikolai Kulemin Jesse Blacker Projected Line-Up Kulemin / Datsyuk / Semin Filppula / Zetterberg / Franzen Cleary / Helm / Bertuzzi Miller / Abdelkader / ( Holmstrom / Mursak / Eaves / Conner ) Lidstrom / White Kronwall / Stuart Ericsson / ( Commodore / Kindl ) Howard MacDonald Conklin That is a scary lineup that can definitely push for the Stanley Cup. Wait until the offseason (depending on what Lidstrom decides to do) to go after a big name UFA defenseman.

To WSH: Jiri Hudler Jan Mursak Cory Emmerton 2012 2nd Conditional 2013 3rd To DET: Alexander Semin Troy Brouwer Lines Filppula - Datsyuk - Semin Nyquist / Holmstrom - Zetterberg - Franzen Cleary - Helm - Bertuzzi Miller - Abdelkader - Brouwer Lidstrom - White Kronwall - Stuart Ericcson - Kindl / Commodore Howard MacDonald

Why is Tomas Tatar so high on our list of top prospects? Many people think he is our top forward prospect and I just dont get it at all. I think Tatar should be behind Gustav Nyquist for sure, and also behind Teemu Pulkkinen, Calle Jarnkrok and Tomas Jurco, and even behind Jan Mursak in my opinion. I just really dont see why everyone thinks this guy is going to be so good. Someone please explain what is so great about this kid.

You know only something like 18-20% of players that are drafted play more than 200 games in the NHL. That is extremely low, and Im willing to bet that only about 10% of the players reach their full potential expected of them when they come into the league. Point is, that pretty much every player that is drafted is compared to a big name player. Does that mean that is the player they will become? Hell no, it simply means they have a similar style of play. That comparison is usually their ceiling but most of the players that come into the league don't play up to these high expectations. It would be impossible seeming how so many players get such rave reviews, and because of this fans like yourself think every player that comes up through the system is going to be the next big thing and we cannot part with any of our prospects. Id like to know where you heard Tatar is supposed to be like Martin St. Louis? I've heard many comparable players, none of which were St. Louis. Ive heard Milan Hejduk and Peter Bondra amoung others but that doesnt mean this kid is going to be the next any of these players, it just means they play a similar game. I would love to have a young Hejduk, Bondra, or St. Louis coming up but the chances of that being the case is slim, so to part with a few of our mediocre prospects for a couple proven players would work for me. You dont even read my posts. You keep saying that I "wanted to know about Tatar" I never once said that I wanted to know about him, I want to know why there are so many fans that think he is the next big thing coming up the pipe, because I dont think he is at all. We have much better prospects in our system. I dont know you, I dont know how much you know about hockey, and I dont know how much you follow the Wings, just like you know nothing about me. I can tell you though, I dont miss a Wings game and I watch most Griffins games and Ive also watched quite a few Sea Dogs games. Ive watched around 40 Griffins games, 10 or so Sea Dogs games, as well as most of the World Juniors, so dont try to tell me I dont have a clue about him, I bet Ive seen him and most of our top prospects play a hell of a lot more than you have. Yes hes a good player but I dont love what I see in him. I see a lot more skill and potential in some of our other prospects. And THAT is what THIS topic was about.

Ok, when did i once say I didnt know about him and I didnt follow his progression? I was saying I know a lot about him and I have followed him and all of our other top prospects. I just dont see him anywhere near the top in our prospect pool. I wanted opinions and I'm listening to your opinion just like I listen to everyone elses I just dont agree with you at all. I wasnt asking why he is good, I was asking why he is viewed as being good, because I just don't see it. I didnt once say you are wrong, yes I disagree with you but you may very well be right on with your opinion, I just cant see this kid being anything more than a 3rd/4th line player. You're trying to compare him to St. Louis, that is crazy. I dont care how long it took St. Louis to break out, because we all know what a late bloomer this guy was. Very few people ever thought he was ever going to make it to the NHL let alone be the player he is today, because of his size. And he never was drafted but you cannot compare this young kid from Slovakia to future Hall of Famer, Martin "Iron Man" St. Louis. I was exaggerating when i said he wouldnt be 1/10 the player St. Louis is but honestly I wouldnt be surprised if this kid puts up somewhere around those numbers for a few half seasons between the NHL and AHL then finds his way back over to Europe. I really hope Im wrong about this kid, I hope he gives us anything that St. Louis has given the Lightning. If this guy can be a top line assist machine feeding the likes of Teemu Pulkkinen with the shot this guy has, Id be extremely pleased to say the least...

I have actually seen him along with most of our prospects play a lot and I'm really not overly impressed with Tatar at all. I honestly dont see him as a player any better than what Hudler has given us. Are you kidding? A Martin St. Louis clone? Wow.. If he can become 1/10 the player St. Louis has been in the NHL I would be extremely impressed. Just not going to happen. I Would be willing to bet that in 5 years time all of the other prospects I mentions will be huge impact players in the NHL (hopefully with the Red Wings) and Tatar will either be traded or the new whipping boy. I hope some of the other GMs in the league think as highly of him as you and some others do, and we can package him in a deal to get a real sniper at the deadline.

I agree that Burke probably wouldnt go for the trade and McPhee probably wouldnt bite either but everyone here is acting like Holland would be an idiot for making these trades. I think we would be much improved if we could pull off these trades, which by the way I know would never happen, just having a bit of fun during these boring couple weeks leading up to the trade deadline. Washington gets Hudler, a mediocre sniper that can help out the second line as well as PP, and two third line forwards that can add some needed depth as well as an upgrade in a draftpick. We get arguably the best sniper in the league that has done jack for his current team that desperately needs a change of scenery. Toronto gets a potential second and a third line center as well as a potential 4th defenseman and a draft pick and we get another Filppula type player for a bunch of prospects and a pick. I think offloading all these prospects to get two players of their calibre would be huge. Our prospect pool at the forward position is extremely deep and we dont have to touch Nyquist, Mursak, Pulkkinen, Jarnkrok, or Jurco... Both Semin and Kulemin are having down years which brings there asking price down a little, but honestly all either of them needs is a change of scenery. I think they would both thrive here in Detroit and especially on a line with Datsyuk.

Haha so in other words you cant even tell me whats wrong with these trades Hahaha

Just outta curiosity, who wins these trades in your opinions? I hope you dont think were losing these trades... And yeah, scrap Kindl in the final lineup.

To WSH: Jiri Hudler Tomas Tatar Fabian Brunnstrom 2012 2nd To DET: Alexander Semin 2012 5th To TOR: Cory Emmerton Joakim Andersson Jakub Kindl 2012 3rd To DET: Nikolai Kulemin Jesse Blacker Projected Line-Up Kulemin / Datsyuk / Semin Filppula / Zetterberg / Franzen Cleary / Helm / Bertuzzi Miller / Abdelkader / ( Holmstrom / Mursak / Eaves / Conner ) Lidstrom / White Kronwall / Stuart Ericsson / ( Commodore / Kindl ) Howard MacDonald Conklin