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Man, imagine if we still had Fischer and this deal went down. Lidstrom-Fischer Kronwall-Souray Schneider-Chelios Lebda/Lilja

How about Datsyuk for Souray and Ryder?

From what I've read about Kindl, so far in his development he's in the mold of a Matt Schneider. He plays great offense with average or even below average defense. Kronwall, on the other hand, is a top NHL prospect and has a far higher ceiling than Kindl.

Good one.

I think the Kronwall part of this rumor is bulls***. The Wings have an extremely thin D corps already.

I can see Lang and Schneider+ going the other way, but not Kronwall.

No way the Wings trade Kronwall. Lang and Schneider on the other hand...

People have been tossing the idea of the black jersey around for years. I doubt it ever happens though. Illitch said he will never do a third jersey.

Tampa is desperately trying to dump salary. This only adds to their problems.

MLive $4 million dollars? When was the last time Shanahan did something in the playoffs again? Does Holland have a brain?

See FBF's above post. That's funny. EDIT - I just want to make it clear that I beleive the Wings need more scoring threats on the wing, but they need hungry ones who are willing to pay the price. Not Shanahan. And especially not for $4 million/year.

I dont really understand your logic. You justify the possibility of Shanahan making $4 million a year by posting some pretty meaningless statistics. Selanne had a great playoff. Alfredsson is a playoff choker. I dont even know why you put guys who havent played in the playoffs/werent in the playoffs last year on that list. Zetterberg is 26 and is outscoring Shanahan in both the season and the playoffs but is making less, so how is that a good argument for your point? The bottom line is Shanahan hasnt performed in the last three playoffs, and has only performed well in 2 of the 3 last regular seasons (which doesnt really matter, in my book). I dont care how some of his peers performed. He's sucked 3 playoffs in a row, is getting up there in age, and doesnt deserve that kind of money. I realize that production is not replacable, but one goal in six playoff games sure is. Who cares about the regular season anymore? Honestly. This team must get younger, faster, and hungrier. There comes a time when you get rid of the older guys and throw some younger guys into the mix. -- and you know the time has come when the 37 year old who has shown abysmal performance in three straight playoffs is asking for more money than your young superstar, Zetterberg. Sure you may drop in the regular season standings, but would you rather have a Stanley Cup or a President's Trophy. If you're not Ken Holland, you'd probably rather have the former. Let those people scream in January. I'll be screaming about how great the younger, hungrier team looks in April. There's no opinion involved; Brendan Shanahan is no longer a power forward. He no longer dishes out hits or crashes the net. He rarely sticks up for his teammates (See: Yzerman, 2006 playoffs). There's a difference between having size and using size.

It's an entry level contract. Ovechkin is only making ~$984k. We dont need more goal scoring. We need more playoff production and hunger. Give Shanahan's roster spot to one of the GR kids and let them develop. I'd rather see one of them here than Shanahan scoring easy perimeter goals in the season and wasting away in the playoffs for the fourth year in a row. Plus, if the Wings dont sign him they'll have some cap room to work with at the deadline. And Shanahan doesnt use his size.

No problem -- I dont think D1F was being sarcastic though.

Huge overpayment. Good luck Shanny.

Flawed/untrue.

Why would the Sens do that though? He's pretty expensive at $3.9 million and hes going to be a UFA after this season too.

Wow, I didnt realize that. Does the is the cap $44 million in Canadian dollars as well? I've always wondered how that worked. Are contracts signed in US figures or Canadian figures?

They're set to be the 06-07 version of the 05-06 Penguins.

Witt, Sillinger, and Hilbert. Eaton and Ruutu. Denis. Grahame. Raycroft, Kubina, and Gill. Rucchin and Kapanen. Demitra, Carney, Jonsson, and Parrish. Grier and Brown. Baumgartner and Robitaille. So, if you dont want to count re-signing your own free agents, the only teams (besides us) that have done nothing are Montreal, New Jersey, and Columbus.

They got Lalime... I guess that's a move.

They signed Halpern and Barnaby.

We dont need another center.

Edmonton could fetch FAR more than that for Pronger. Where did you hear this?